Jim Tressel Resigns

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I think we’re about to see some major violations come to the surface. He didn’t leave from the pressure of the shit we’ve heard about. Shit’s gonna get pretty heavy, but he won’t personally get in any trouble [unless it’s illegal in the eyes of the law], but the Buckeyes are fucked. Also, I don’t know if Meyer will jump right into this job [have to see how all this plays out], but anyone who thinks he’s done coaching has their head up their ass. His health wasn’t too much of a concern until Tim Tebow was wearing an NFL jersey.[/quote]

Ah, so that ER visit and his wife’s freaked out 911 call were part of his elaborate plan to resign a year later? Seems a bit overcomplicated to me.

[quote]waldo21212 wrote:

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]waldo21212 wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Just another big time program that got caught. Nothing new. They all do it, some are better than others at hiding it. [/quote]

My thoughts exactly - although Ohio State has been worse than most in the last 5 or so years.

Florida is going to have something big come out next.[/quote]

The NCAA needs a complete overhaul.

You can’t expect kids to refuse all forms of compensations when they’re making millions for their schools and not seeing a single cent.[/quote]

I see what you are getting at, but full scholarship athletes get most of their living expenses (housing, food, tuition) paid for. I know they can’t have jobs, but they can also apply for grants/get student loans to pay for booze, cars, and other shit not covered by the school.[/quote]

Yea because that’s a fair trade when schools are making $20+ million per year on the football team alone, not to mention all of the other funding that they get as a result of the publicity.

You also have to realize that a lot of the players are coming from extremely poor backgrounds and struggle to support their families, friends, and other people in their lives.

I’m not saying that the NCAA should be paying these kids insane contracts or anything, but I think there is a definite disparity in wealth that needs to be evened out.

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I think we’re about to see some major violations come to the surface. He didn’t leave from the pressure of the shit we’ve heard about. Shit’s gonna get pretty heavy, but he won’t personally get in any trouble [unless it’s illegal in the eyes of the law], but the Buckeyes are fucked. Also, I don’t know if Meyer will jump right into this job [have to see how all this plays out], but anyone who thinks he’s done coaching has their head up their ass. His health wasn’t too much of a concern until Tim Tebow was wearing an NFL jersey.[/quote]

Ah, so that ER visit and his wife’s freaked out 911 call were part of his elaborate plan to resign a year later? Seems a bit overcomplicated to me.[/quote]

Since you’re so close to the program, you should know that there were whispers of his health problems 2 years before he finally resigned, but they didn’t seem to be that big of a deal while he was winning and coaching the most dominant college QB of all time.

LOL - see you later, you bastard

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]Stronghold wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]jw154505 wrote:
Urban Meyer soon to be Buckeye?[/quote]

I don’t think coaching at Ohio State would be significantly different from coaching at Florida. The guy has/had serious health issues. The guy had it made at UF, no reason to leave unless he felt it was necessary.[/quote]

He’s an Ohio native, UC alumni, got his HC start at Bowling Green, apparently owns a house in Columbus, and runs a very similar offense to what Tressel already had in place. I wouldn’t rule him out.[/quote]

Thanks, I’ve lived in Gainesville my entire life, I know a little bit about our coaches, current and former. I also know that he was rushed to the hospital in the middle of the night a year and a half ago because of the health problems he has developed, which his doctors think are closely linked to the stress and generally unhealthy lifestyle that comes with being a head coach at an elite program. We had a fair amount of disciplinary issues when he was here, which I’m sure stressed him out even more. Ohio State is currently under investigation, I think that if you add that to all the same stress that goes along with any top coaching job, he’d be entering in to a situation that’s even worse for his health than what he had here.

Can’t predict the future, but if he does it I’d be very surprised and he’d be a moron in my eyes. He has legitimate health problems, even after scaling back his involvement and responsibilities here at UF, as well as eating better and exercising more, he still had to step down.[/quote]

Jesus. Serious bsns.

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I think we’re about to see some major violations come to the surface. He didn’t leave from the pressure of the shit we’ve heard about. Shit’s gonna get pretty heavy, but he won’t personally get in any trouble [unless it’s illegal in the eyes of the law], but the Buckeyes are fucked. Also, I don’t know if Meyer will jump right into this job [have to see how all this plays out], but anyone who thinks he’s done coaching has their head up their ass. His health wasn’t too much of a concern until Tim Tebow was wearing an NFL jersey.[/quote]

Ah, so that ER visit and his wife’s freaked out 911 call were part of his elaborate plan to resign a year later? Seems a bit overcomplicated to me.[/quote]

Since you’re so close to the program, you should know that there were whispers of his health problems 2 years before he finally resigned, but they didn’t seem to be that big of a deal while he was winning and coaching the most dominant college QB of all time.[/quote]

Rumors don’t really mean as much as facts. Unless there was an unthinkably elaborate coverup, his health issues didn’t affect him drastically until his first “resignation,” right after his wife found him in some half conscious state and he was rushed to the hospital. He took the job before Tebow was even a Senior in high school, and he coached for a year after he left. Your point may actually be valid, despite your misguided reasoning. I’m sure winning national championships is less stressful than losing multiple games in a season. I would imagine his problems gradually got worse while we were trying to defend the national championship, and, as the timing suggests, they came to a head after the bad loss to Alabama in the SEC Championship. He came back last year, had to endure the stress of a seriously disappointing season, and that, combined with his desire to spend more time with his family, pushed him to resign. If you think it’s only because he didn’t have Tebow, then why would he take any other job, especially Ohio State with all the controversy and issues they are having right now? The success he enjoyed in such a short time here is rare, and his chances of repeating is elsewhere, even at a big time program, would be slim. If his decision was so heavily influenced by not having Tebow, why would he ever coach again? Do you really think he’s banking on finding another Tebow? I doubt one exists anywhere.

All of that is speculation. What is fact is that he ended up in the emergency room because of these health problems that you seem to be discounting. Do you think he was doing that simply because he wanted to set up an excuse for leaving?

[quote]Stronghold wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]Stronghold wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]jw154505 wrote:
Urban Meyer soon to be Buckeye?[/quote]

I don’t think coaching at Ohio State would be significantly different from coaching at Florida. The guy has/had serious health issues. The guy had it made at UF, no reason to leave unless he felt it was necessary.[/quote]

He’s an Ohio native, UC alumni, got his HC start at Bowling Green, apparently owns a house in Columbus, and runs a very similar offense to what Tressel already had in place. I wouldn’t rule him out.[/quote]

Thanks, I’ve lived in Gainesville my entire life, I know a little bit about our coaches, current and former. I also know that he was rushed to the hospital in the middle of the night a year and a half ago because of the health problems he has developed, which his doctors think are closely linked to the stress and generally unhealthy lifestyle that comes with being a head coach at an elite program. We had a fair amount of disciplinary issues when he was here, which I’m sure stressed him out even more. Ohio State is currently under investigation, I think that if you add that to all the same stress that goes along with any top coaching job, he’d be entering in to a situation that’s even worse for his health than what he had here.

Can’t predict the future, but if he does it I’d be very surprised and he’d be a moron in my eyes. He has legitimate health problems, even after scaling back his involvement and responsibilities here at UF, as well as eating better and exercising more, he still had to step down.[/quote]

Jesus. Serious bsns.[/quote]

No, it’s a forum for discussion, or at least that is the impression I am under.

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I think we’re about to see some major violations come to the surface. He didn’t leave from the pressure of the shit we’ve heard about. Shit’s gonna get pretty heavy, but he won’t personally get in any trouble [unless it’s illegal in the eyes of the law], but the Buckeyes are fucked. Also, I don’t know if Meyer will jump right into this job [have to see how all this plays out], but anyone who thinks he’s done coaching has their head up their ass. His health wasn’t too much of a concern until Tim Tebow was wearing an NFL jersey.[/quote]

Ah, so that ER visit and his wife’s freaked out 911 call were part of his elaborate plan to resign a year later? Seems a bit overcomplicated to me.[/quote]

Since you’re so close to the program, you should know that there were whispers of his health problems 2 years before he finally resigned, but they didn’t seem to be that big of a deal while he was winning and coaching the most dominant college QB of all time.[/quote]

Rumors don’t really mean as much as facts. Unless there was an unthinkably elaborate coverup, his health issues didn’t affect him drastically until his first “resignation,” right after his wife found him in some half conscious state and he was rushed to the hospital. He took the job before Tebow was even a Senior in high school, and he coached for a year after he left. Your point may actually be valid, despite your misguided reasoning. I’m sure winning national championships is less stressful than losing multiple games in a season. I would imagine his problems gradually got worse while we were trying to defend the national championship, and, as the timing suggests, they came to a head after the bad loss to Alabama in the SEC Championship. He came back last year, had to endure the stress of a seriously disappointing season, and that, combined with his desire to spend more time with his family, pushed him to resign. If you think it’s only because he didn’t have Tebow, then why would he take any other job, especially Ohio State with all the controversy and issues they are having right now? The success he enjoyed in such a short time here is rare, and his chances of repeating is elsewhere, even at a big time program, would be slim. If his decision was so heavily influenced by not having Tebow, why would he ever coach again? Do you really think he’s banking on finding another Tebow? I doubt one exists anywhere.

All of that is speculation. What is fact is that he ended up in the emergency room because of these health problems that you seem to be discounting. Do you think he was doing that simply because he wanted to set up an excuse for leaving?[/quote]

First, someone needs a tall cool glass of calm down juice. Second, I already said we’re gonna have to wait and see how the OSU situation plays out. If there’s major violations [which I said I’m sure there will be] there’s no way he takes the gig. Third, those “rumors” surfaced at least 2 years before he resigned, and they turned out to be true. Pretty sure he passed out at a practice or some team function while Tebow was still there. So, if there were reports of his being ill 2 years before he resigned, and he resigned due to being ill, it’s safe to say that the “rumors” were “facts”.

Now that that’s out of the way, I do think he was using being ill as an excuse. He was doing college football shows all season, and his illness didn’t seem to bother him or keep him home as he said he’d be. I’m sure the guy is sick, but he will 100% coach again, he just didn’t want to do it at Florida anymore 'cause he was never gonna have it as good as he did during the Tebow years, and there’s nothing wrong with that. Coaches, athletes, administrators, etc… make bum excuses all of the time.

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I think we’re about to see some major violations come to the surface. He didn’t leave from the pressure of the shit we’ve heard about. Shit’s gonna get pretty heavy, but he won’t personally get in any trouble [unless it’s illegal in the eyes of the law], but the Buckeyes are fucked. Also, I don’t know if Meyer will jump right into this job [have to see how all this plays out], but anyone who thinks he’s done coaching has their head up their ass. His health wasn’t too much of a concern until Tim Tebow was wearing an NFL jersey.[/quote]

Ah, so that ER visit and his wife’s freaked out 911 call were part of his elaborate plan to resign a year later? Seems a bit overcomplicated to me.[/quote]

Since you’re so close to the program, you should know that there were whispers of his health problems 2 years before he finally resigned, but they didn’t seem to be that big of a deal while he was winning and coaching the most dominant college QB of all time.[/quote]

Rumors don’t really mean as much as facts. Unless there was an unthinkably elaborate coverup, his health issues didn’t affect him drastically until his first “resignation,” right after his wife found him in some half conscious state and he was rushed to the hospital. He took the job before Tebow was even a Senior in high school, and he coached for a year after he left. Your point may actually be valid, despite your misguided reasoning. I’m sure winning national championships is less stressful than losing multiple games in a season. I would imagine his problems gradually got worse while we were trying to defend the national championship, and, as the timing suggests, they came to a head after the bad loss to Alabama in the SEC Championship. He came back last year, had to endure the stress of a seriously disappointing season, and that, combined with his desire to spend more time with his family, pushed him to resign. If you think it’s only because he didn’t have Tebow, then why would he take any other job, especially Ohio State with all the controversy and issues they are having right now? The success he enjoyed in such a short time here is rare, and his chances of repeating is elsewhere, even at a big time program, would be slim. If his decision was so heavily influenced by not having Tebow, why would he ever coach again? Do you really think he’s banking on finding another Tebow? I doubt one exists anywhere.

All of that is speculation. What is fact is that he ended up in the emergency room because of these health problems that you seem to be discounting. Do you think he was doing that simply because he wanted to set up an excuse for leaving?[/quote]

First, someone needs a tall cool glass of calm down juice. Second, I already said we’re gonna have to wait and see how the OSU situation plays out. If there’s major violations [which I said I’m sure there will be] there’s no way he takes the gig. Third, those “rumors” surfaced at least 2 years before he resigned, and they turned out to be true. Pretty sure he passed out at a practice or some team function while Tebow was still there. So, if there were reports of his being ill 2 years before he resigned, and he resigned due to being ill, it’s safe to say that the “rumors” were “facts”.

Now that that’s out of the way, I do think he was using being ill as an excuse. He was doing college football shows all season, and his illness didn’t seem to bother him or keep him home as he said he’d be. I’m sure the guy is sick, but he will 100% coach again, he just didn’t want to do it at Florida anymore 'cause he was never gonna have it as good as he did during the Tebow years, and there’s nothing wrong with that. Coaches, athletes, administrators, etc… make bum excuses all of the time. [/quote]

Is it you? I’m perfectly fine. I don’t see how you could possibly think I was “not calm.” Because I don’t agree with you?

I’m not disputing any reports. He said himself that he had issues with his health before he even got to Florida. But they got more serious when we all heard about them, when he ended up in the hospital. Unless you’re suggesting that Urban Meyer had been passing out and being rushed to the ER for years without anybody hearing about it, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say his health severely deteriorated around the time that everybody says it did.

You’re right, he did work for ESPN this season, he didn’t spend all his time at home. Consider, though, that he did maybe one or two things a week for ESPN, and his only responsibilities were to be prepared for his appearance, and to talk about the topic. There’s no way those limited obligations come anywhere close to the extensive demands placed on him here. On top of all of his responsibilities to his current team (practice, planning, keeping up with his players and their disciplinary issues) he was also consistently recruiting top classes, meaning he was constantly calling highly sought after high school kids, meeting with them, and so on. I remember him talking about how coaching was his life practically 24/7. He’d be getting emails or phone calls in the middle of the night, and he’d have to deal with it, all the time. When he took the job with ESPN, he talked about how he was still going to be spending time with his family, but he didn’t want to just be doing absolutely nothing and he didn’t think his wife wanted him around 24/7 either.

I thought this thread was about Ohio State?

[quote]DJHT wrote:
I thought this thread was about Ohio State?[/quote]

You would think that…always behind the times DJ

LOL at the guy acting like he and meyer are BFF

The only thing that bums me out about this resignation is that I really wanted Brady Hoke’s Wolverines to beat him this season.

It’ll feel good beating OSU in general, but it’d be extra nice if was against sweatervest.

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
The only thing that bums me out about this resignation is that I really wanted Brady Hoke’s Wolverines to beat him this season.

It’ll feel good beating OSU in general, but it’d be extra nice if was against sweatervest.

[/quote]

Isn’t that basically the same thing UM fans have been saying since 2003?

In a way I suppose so, but in another, not really.

Tressel had Lloyd’s number from the get go and I personally didn’t see any hope in Rodriquez beating that juggernaut of a program with his “speedy” scheme.

I don’t want OSU to be punished too badly to be honest. I want them to still be bowl elligible and not lose any scholarships because I want UM’s rise back into greatness to be legit and not on the coat-tails of OSU’s bump in the road.

Suck it sweatervest!!!

Can’t wait to see The Suckeyes get hammered by the NCAA

I’m just hoping their recruits are granted a release from their LOI’s and Curtis Grant comes to UVA.

[quote]fighting_fires wrote:
LOL at the guy acting like he and meyer are BFF[/quote]

Ha seriously, those two need a time out and a dose of maturity. I think deep down they simply want to have a three way with Mr. Meyer.


STANFORD WILL BE #1 THIS YEAR! LUCK FOR HEISMAN!

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]fighting_fires wrote:
LOL at the guy acting like he and meyer are BFF[/quote]

Ha seriously, those two need a time out and a dose of maturity. I think deep down they simply want to have a three way with Mr. Meyer.


STANFORD WILL BE #1 THIS YEAR! LUCK FOR HEISMAN![/quote]

Yes, clearly I’m the immature one.

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]fighting_fires wrote:
LOL at the guy acting like he and meyer are BFF[/quote]

Ha seriously, those two need a time out and a dose of maturity. I think deep down they simply want to have a three way with Mr. Meyer.


STANFORD WILL BE #1 THIS YEAR! LUCK FOR HEISMAN![/quote]

Yes, clearly I’m the immature one.[/quote]

Why are you even commenting on it then? Most adults would just laugh at the sarcastic comment, and just let it slide off their back.

Regardless, I didn’t mean anything on a personal level and would love to get back to NCAA talk.

Pryor is now getting some serious heat dropped on him. Do you think he should stick around or enter the supplemental draft?