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[quote]Beowolf wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
No, no it doesn’t. I rarely agree with him, but at least he’s bringing the concept of America’s fallibility to the table, something a lot of you fail to do at all.

What are you basing that on? Plenty of us here believe America is fallible, shouldn’t have gone into Iraq, shouldn’t support Bosnian Muslim terrorists instead of the Serbs, or lots of other things. Most of us are decidedly NOT anti-American, which is certainly a different perspective than lixy’s.

Err… a lot of that sentiment is fairly recent. Until just a few months ago, saying the war was not going well was a mortal sin around here.[/quote]

And even that took some fermenting in the past two years…

Lixy upholds a socialist perspective very well and we should not criticize him on that ground. Most of us who live here in the States are going to have a very narrow and biased opinion, essentially making every comment (like this one) a box of worms to a fallible scrutiny.

Everyone thinks they know something when they are sure the majority will agree.

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[quote]BluePfaltz wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
No, no it doesn’t. I rarely agree with him, but at least he’s bringing the concept of America’s fallibility to the table, something a lot of you fail to do at all.

What are you basing that on? Plenty of us here believe America is fallible, shouldn’t have gone into Iraq, shouldn’t support Bosnian Muslim terrorists instead of the Serbs, or lots of other things. Most of us are decidedly NOT anti-American, which is certainly a different perspective than lixy’s.

Err… a lot of that sentiment is fairly recent. Until just a few months ago, saying the war was not going well was a mortal sin around here.

And even that took some fermenting in the past two years…

Lixy upholds a socialist perspective very well and we should not criticize him on that ground. Most of us who live here in the States are going to have a very narrow and biased opinion, essentially making every comment (like this one) a box of worms to a fallible scrutiny.

Everyone thinks they know something when they are sure the majority will agree.

[/quote]

You see the same attitude concerning race issues. As long as it was perceived that I was one of the few blacks responding, it seemed like I was being hit from all sides as if I was making no valid points. As soon as a couple of more minorities start writing as well, that sure has backed off a great deal.

There is a hell of a lot of bravado as long as everyone believes most others agree with their view point.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
BluePfaltz wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
No, no it doesn’t. I rarely agree with him, but at least he’s bringing the concept of America’s fallibility to the table, something a lot of you fail to do at all.

What are you basing that on? Plenty of us here believe America is fallible, shouldn’t have gone into Iraq, shouldn’t support Bosnian Muslim terrorists instead of the Serbs, or lots of other things. Most of us are decidedly NOT anti-American, which is certainly a different perspective than lixy’s.

Err… a lot of that sentiment is fairly recent. Until just a few months ago, saying the war was not going well was a mortal sin around here.

And even that took some fermenting in the past two years…

Lixy upholds a socialist perspective very well and we should not criticize him on that ground. Most of us who live here in the States are going to have a very narrow and biased opinion, essentially making every comment (like this one) a box of worms to a fallible scrutiny.

Everyone thinks they know something when they are sure the majority will agree.

You see the same attitude concerning race issues. As long as it was perceived that I was one of the few blacks responding, it seemed like I was being hit from all sides as if I was making no valid points. As soon as a couple of more minorities start writing as well, that sure has backed off a great deal.

There is a hell of a lot of bravado as long as everyone believes most others agree with their view point.[/quote]

Amen

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[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Err… a lot of that sentiment is fairly recent. Until just a few months ago, saying the war was not going well was a mortal sin around here.[/quote]

That is completely false.

I don’t recall anybody getting all bent out of shape at the mere suggestion that the war wasn’t all butterflies and rose petals.

I recall people getting annoyed at suggestions that the war could not be won ever, under any circumstances, and that we should just up and leave because of that. I also recall people getting annoyed when it was suggested that we had already lost as well.

Criticizing and pointing fingers at others without a useful alternative suggestion was also frowned upon.

But I don’t ever recall it being a “mortal sin” to suggest that we weren’t making a lot of progress before the surge. That’s revisionist history.

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[quote]BluePfaltz wrote:
And even that took some fermenting in the past two years…

Lixy upholds a socialist perspective very well and we should not criticize him on that ground. Most of us who live here in the States are going to have a very narrow and biased opinion, essentially making every comment (like this one) a box of worms to a fallible scrutiny.

Everyone thinks they know something when they are sure the majority will agree.

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Do we have to have this same song and dance every time someone sticks their head in the door here and thinks poor little lixy is being picked on?

http://www.T-Nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=1999113&pageNo=1

lixy is a self-admitted troll that isn’t interested in fair discussion. He’s here with an agenda, and is willing to kill or hijack any discussion that might refute his propaganda. He’s done it countless times already.

He lost the benefit of the doubt months and months ago.

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[quote]tGunslinger wrote:
BluePfaltz wrote:
And even that took some fermenting in the past two years…

Lixy upholds a socialist perspective very well and we should not criticize him on that ground. Most of us who live here in the States are going to have a very narrow and biased opinion, essentially making every comment (like this one) a box of worms to a fallible scrutiny.

Everyone thinks they know something when they are sure the majority will agree.

Do we have to have this same song and dance every time someone sticks their head in the door here and thinks poor little lixy is being picked on?

http://www.T-Nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=1999113&pageNo=1

lixy is a self-admitted troll that isn’t interested in fair discussion. He’s here with an agenda, and is willing to kill or hijack any discussion that might refute his propaganda. He’s done it countless times already.

He lost the benefit of the doubt months and months ago.[/quote]

Have enjoyed and agree with the majority of your posts tgunslinger, keep up the good fight.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
BluePfaltz wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
No, no it doesn’t. I rarely agree with him, but at least he’s bringing the concept of America’s fallibility to the table, something a lot of you fail to do at all.

What are you basing that on? Plenty of us here believe America is fallible, shouldn’t have gone into Iraq, shouldn’t support Bosnian Muslim terrorists instead of the Serbs, or lots of other things. Most of us are decidedly NOT anti-American, which is certainly a different perspective than lixy’s.

Err… a lot of that sentiment is fairly recent. Until just a few months ago, saying the war was not going well was a mortal sin around here.

And even that took some fermenting in the past two years…

Lixy upholds a socialist perspective very well and we should not criticize him on that ground. Most of us who live here in the States are going to have a very narrow and biased opinion, essentially making every comment (like this one) a box of worms to a fallible scrutiny.

Everyone thinks they know something when they are sure the majority will agree.

You see the same attitude concerning race issues. As long as it was perceived that I was one of the few blacks responding, it seemed like I was being hit from all sides as if I was making no valid points. As soon as a couple of more minorities start writing as well, that sure has backed off a great deal.

There is a hell of a lot of bravado as long as everyone believes most others agree with their view point.[/quote]

“Minority.” As I recall, that’s what you used on one thread to defend Islamic hegemony.

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[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
Professor X wrote:
BluePfaltz wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
No, no it doesn’t. I rarely agree with him, but at least he’s bringing the concept of America’s fallibility to the table, something a lot of you fail to do at all.

What are you basing that on? Plenty of us here believe America is fallible, shouldn’t have gone into Iraq, shouldn’t support Bosnian Muslim terrorists instead of the Serbs, or lots of other things. Most of us are decidedly NOT anti-American, which is certainly a different perspective than lixy’s.

Err… a lot of that sentiment is fairly recent. Until just a few months ago, saying the war was not going well was a mortal sin around here.

And even that took some fermenting in the past two years…

Lixy upholds a socialist perspective very well and we should not criticize him on that ground. Most of us who live here in the States are going to have a very narrow and biased opinion, essentially making every comment (like this one) a box of worms to a fallible scrutiny.

Everyone thinks they know something when they are sure the majority will agree.

You see the same attitude concerning race issues. As long as it was perceived that I was one of the few blacks responding, it seemed like I was being hit from all sides as if I was making no valid points. As soon as a couple of more minorities start writing as well, that sure has backed off a great deal.

There is a hell of a lot of bravado as long as everyone believes most others agree with their view point.

“Minority.” As I recall, that’s what you used on one thread to defend Islamic hegemony.
[/quote]

Right. Go find that post, quote it, and debate it directly.

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[quote]tGunslinger wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
Err… a lot of that sentiment is fairly recent. Until just a few months ago, saying the war was not going well was a mortal sin around here.

That is completely false.

I don’t recall anybody getting all bent out of shape at the mere suggestion that the war wasn’t all butterflies and rose petals.[/quote]

Wow. Are you reading the same threads I am? Why don’t you go look up ANY thread that JeffR posted in.

I’ll wait.

It is funny how people see what they want to see. For years here while Bush was being re-elected, you couldn’t make a claim about how poor the war was doing without posts about how our perception was off…and I was in the military at the time.

Where the fuck have you been?

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[quote]Beowolf wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
No, no it doesn’t. I rarely agree with him, but at least he’s bringing the concept of America’s fallibility to the table, something a lot of you fail to do at all.

What are you basing that on? Plenty of us here believe America is fallible, shouldn’t have gone into Iraq, shouldn’t support Bosnian Muslim terrorists instead of the Serbs, or lots of other things. Most of us are decidedly NOT anti-American, which is certainly a different perspective than lixy’s.

Err… a lot of that sentiment is fairly recent. Until just a few months ago, saying the war was not going well was a mortal sin around here.[/quote]

That’s horse shit. I have been saying that GWB Bush fucked up the execution of this war for at least a year.

We don’t need a terrorist cheer leader having an orgasm every time an American gets killed in theater for us to know that the war should have been over by now.

And even if we do - we have several of them right here that are not as chicken shit as lixy is. She is a coward of the highest order, and deserves no one’s respect.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Wow. Are you reading the same threads I am? Why don’t you go look up ANY thread that JeffR posted in.

I’ll wait.

It is funny how people see what they want to see. For years here while Bush was being re-elected, you couldn’t make a claim about how poor the war was doing without posts about how our perception was off…and I was in the military at the time.

Where the fuck have you been?[/quote]

There were rolled eyes and condescension back in the campaign of 2004 because claims that “We’re losing!” and “We can’t win!” were foolish. We simply hadn’t been there long enough at that point in time to determine whether our strategy was working well or not. Claims that “we’ve lost!” were dismissed as political footballs back then.

But Beowolf was making it sound like that this board had widespread groupthink (not just JeffR) that the war was going great, and that any opinions to the contrary were treated as a “mortal sin” about up until we started getting positive feedback from the surge. Not four damn years ago in 2004, but just a few months ago.

That’s bullshit. There was a widespread opinion as far back as the middle of 2006 that progress had stalled and that a change in strategy might be a good thing.

That’s kind of bass-ackwards from Beowolf’s claim that any criticism of the war a “mortal sin” on this board until a few months ago.

Where the fuck were you?

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[quote]tGunslinger wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Wow. Are you reading the same threads I am? Why don’t you go look up ANY thread that JeffR posted in.

I’ll wait.

It is funny how people see what they want to see. For years here while Bush was being re-elected, you couldn’t make a claim about how poor the war was doing without posts about how our perception was off…and I was in the military at the time.

Where the fuck have you been?

There were rolled eyes and condescension back in the campaign of 2004 because claims that “We’re losing!” and “We can’t win!” were foolish. We simply hadn’t been there long enough at that point in time to determine whether our strategy was working well or not. Claims that “we’ve lost!” were dismissed as political footballs back then.

But Beowolf was making it sound like that this board had widespread groupthink (not just JeffR) that the war was going great, and that any opinions to the contrary were treated as a “mortal sin” about up until we started getting positive feedback from the surge. Not four damn years ago in 2004, but just a few months ago.

That’s bullshit. There was a widespread opinion as far back as the middle of 2006 that progress had stalled and that a change in strategy might be a good thing.

That’s kind of bass-ackwards from Beowolf’s claim that any criticism of the war a “mortal sin” on this board until a few months ago.

Where the fuck were you?[/quote]

The general sentiment by most was that “the liberal media” was simply not reporting on the amazing progress we were making. I remember specific posts about how schools were being built and how many of the people loved us being there but that none of this was being reported truthfully.

Needless to say, the sentiment has recently changed as I doubt most would post the same now as if all of the good stuff was being hidden.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
The general sentiment by most was that “the liberal media” was simply not reporting on the amazing progress we were making. I remember specific posts about how schools were being built and how many of the people loved us being there but that none of this was being reported truthfully.

Needless to say, the sentiment has recently changed as I doubt most would post the same now as if all of the good stuff was being hidden.[/quote]

I recall, and agreed with, that sentiment that the media was focusing heavily on the negative and all but ignoring the positive. I don’t recall many claims that “amazing progress” was being made-but-ignored by anybody. Other than JeffR, I guess, but he doesn’t represent “The Right”.

But the overall attitude of “The Right” had changed, I think, to something more along the lines of “If you’ve got a better idea, then let’s hear it!” nearly two years ago. That refutes Beowolf’s claim that criticism of the war was a mortal sin up until a few months ago.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
BluePfaltz wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
No, no it doesn’t. I rarely agree with him, but at least he’s bringing the concept of America’s fallibility to the table, something a lot of you fail to do at all.

What are you basing that on? Plenty of us here believe America is fallible, shouldn’t have gone into Iraq, shouldn’t support Bosnian Muslim terrorists instead of the Serbs, or lots of other things. Most of us are decidedly NOT anti-American, which is certainly a different perspective than lixy’s.

Err… a lot of that sentiment is fairly recent. Until just a few months ago, saying the war was not going well was a mortal sin around here.

And even that took some fermenting in the past two years…

Lixy upholds a socialist perspective very well and we should not criticize him on that ground. Most of us who live here in the States are going to have a very narrow and biased opinion, essentially making every comment (like this one) a box of worms to a fallible scrutiny.

Everyone thinks they know something when they are sure the majority will agree.

You see the same attitude concerning race issues. As long as it was perceived that I was one of the few blacks responding, it seemed like I was being hit from all sides as if I was making no valid points. As soon as a couple of more minorities start writing as well, that sure has backed off a great deal.

There is a hell of a lot of bravado as long as everyone believes most others agree with their view point.[/quote]

I find it interesting that while I do have the strong gut feeling that a lot of posters operate under the assumption that America could do no wrong so anyone criticizing her must be a pathological death-to-America type, I never get that attitude from black posters (who are known to be black of course).

I think I have a rough idea why and that could explain a lot about the Wright sermons too.

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Lixy has claimed to be a troll with one purpose on this site…to defend his religion. He cannot be taken seriously since he is on an internet Jihad.

He is comic relief.

I don’t think he realizes how much he reinforces the stereotype of the useful idiot blinded by idealogy.

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[quote]hedo wrote:
Lixy has claimed to be a troll with one purpose on this site…to defend his religion. He cannot be taken seriously since he is on an internet Jihad.

He is comic relief.

I don’t think he realizes how much he reinforces the stereotype of the useful idiot blinded by idealogy.[/quote]

Even if it was so, he would hardly be the only one and the good thing about free speech is that his ideology has a chance of being heard too.

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[quote]hedo wrote:
Lixy has claimed to be a troll with one purpose on this site…to defend his religion. He cannot be taken seriously since he is on an internet Jihad.

He is comic relief.

I don’t think he realizes how much he reinforces the stereotype of the useful idiot blinded by idealogy.[/quote]

So, he’s in the same boat with Headhunter?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
hedo wrote:
Lixy has claimed to be a troll with one purpose on this site…to defend his religion. He cannot be taken seriously since he is on an internet Jihad.

He is comic relief.

I don’t think he realizes how much he reinforces the stereotype of the useful idiot blinded by idealogy.

So, he’s in the same boat with Headhunter?[/quote]

Now you know.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
hedo wrote:
Lixy has claimed to be a troll with one purpose on this site…to defend his religion. He cannot be taken seriously since he is on an internet Jihad.

He is comic relief.

I don’t think he realizes how much he reinforces the stereotype of the useful idiot blinded by idealogy.

So, he’s in the same boat with Headhunter?[/quote]

Same boat…opposite ends.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
hedo wrote:
Lixy has claimed to be a troll with one purpose on this site…to defend his religion. He cannot be taken seriously since he is on an internet Jihad.

He is comic relief.

I don’t think he realizes how much he reinforces the stereotype of the useful idiot blinded by idealogy.

So, he’s in the same boat with Headhunter?[/quote]

I dunno. Is HH waging an internet jihad campaign of taqiyya and kitman?