Jihad Planned For TX,CA,CO

[quote]farmerson12 wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I do think there is something of a point to make in observing the reactions of Americans in terms of trying to magnify the “otherness” of certain people (as the root of a problem), and how that leads to discrimination against all of those “others”.

So, if a white christian bombs an abortion clinic, or a civilian area is bombed by the Irish Republican Army, or Ted Kaczynski sends mail bombs out – very few Americans start saying (or implying) that white people are somehow more likely than others to set off bombs. But whenever an Islamic terrorist does so, or plans to do so, it’s simply written off as “See? Muslims are dangerous! Most of them hate America and want to harm us!”

Yes, there is a strong element of racism/xenophobia when the actions of “someone like me” have specific, independent reasons not attached to their likeness of me and the actions of “someone unlike me” have reasons attached to their unlikeness of me.[/quote]

If you dont mind me asking, what do you mean by “someone like me(you)”? And with the change of tide in the U.S, I would expect a rage against a Christian bombing an abortion clinic to be close to that of a Muslim causing the same horror.[/quote]

In terms of race, religion, nationality, etc.
w/r/t abortion clinic bombing, I know it’s happened post 9/11…not a lot of uproar.

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]farmerson12 wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I do think there is something of a point to make in observing the reactions of Americans in terms of trying to magnify the “otherness” of certain people (as the root of a problem), and how that leads to discrimination against all of those “others”.

So, if a white christian bombs an abortion clinic, or a civilian area is bombed by the Irish Republican Army, or Ted Kaczynski sends mail bombs out – very few Americans start saying (or implying) that white people are somehow more likely than others to set off bombs. But whenever an Islamic terrorist does so, or plans to do so, it’s simply written off as “See? Muslims are dangerous! Most of them hate America and want to harm us!”

Yes, there is a strong element of racism/xenophobia when the actions of “someone like me” have specific, independent reasons not attached to their likeness of me and the actions of “someone unlike me” have reasons attached to their unlikeness of me.[/quote]

If you dont mind me asking, what do you mean by “someone like me(you)”? And with the change of tide in the U.S, I would expect a rage against a Christian bombing an abortion clinic to be close to that of a Muslim causing the same horror.[/quote]

In terms of race, religion, nationality, etc.
w/r/t abortion clinic bombing, I know it’s happened post 9/11…not a lot of uproar.[/quote]

Actually since '84 there have been a number of abortion clinic bombings(majority in Florida). Most were caused by idiotic KKK members and a twisted former Presbyterian minister. But nonetheless, they probably tied themselves to a Christian belief.

[quote]farmerson12 wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]farmerson12 wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I do think there is something of a point to make in observing the reactions of Americans in terms of trying to magnify the “otherness” of certain people (as the root of a problem), and how that leads to discrimination against all of those “others”.

So, if a white christian bombs an abortion clinic, or a civilian area is bombed by the Irish Republican Army, or Ted Kaczynski sends mail bombs out – very few Americans start saying (or implying) that white people are somehow more likely than others to set off bombs. But whenever an Islamic terrorist does so, or plans to do so, it’s simply written off as “See? Muslims are dangerous! Most of them hate America and want to harm us!”

Yes, there is a strong element of racism/xenophobia when the actions of “someone like me” have specific, independent reasons not attached to their likeness of me and the actions of “someone unlike me” have reasons attached to their unlikeness of me.[/quote]

If you dont mind me asking, what do you mean by “someone like me(you)”? And with the change of tide in the U.S, I would expect a rage against a Christian bombing an abortion clinic to be close to that of a Muslim causing the same horror.[/quote]

In terms of race, religion, nationality, etc.
w/r/t abortion clinic bombing, I know it’s happened post 9/11…not a lot of uproar.[/quote]

Actually since '84 there have been a number of abortion clinic bombings(majority in Florida). Most were caused by idiotic KKK members and a twisted former Presbyterian minister. But nonetheless, they probably tied themselves to a Christian belief. [/quote]

So why don’t people stereotype christians as dangerous extremists?

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]farmerson12 wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]farmerson12 wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I do think there is something of a point to make in observing the reactions of Americans in terms of trying to magnify the “otherness” of certain people (as the root of a problem), and how that leads to discrimination against all of those “others”.

So, if a white christian bombs an abortion clinic, or a civilian area is bombed by the Irish Republican Army, or Ted Kaczynski sends mail bombs out – very few Americans start saying (or implying) that white people are somehow more likely than others to set off bombs. But whenever an Islamic terrorist does so, or plans to do so, it’s simply written off as “See? Muslims are dangerous! Most of them hate America and want to harm us!”

Yes, there is a strong element of racism/xenophobia when the actions of “someone like me” have specific, independent reasons not attached to their likeness of me and the actions of “someone unlike me” have reasons attached to their unlikeness of me.[/quote]

If you dont mind me asking, what do you mean by “someone like me(you)”? And with the change of tide in the U.S, I would expect a rage against a Christian bombing an abortion clinic to be close to that of a Muslim causing the same horror.[/quote]

In terms of race, religion, nationality, etc.
w/r/t abortion clinic bombing, I know it’s happened post 9/11…not a lot of uproar.[/quote]

Actually since '84 there have been a number of abortion clinic bombings(majority in Florida). Most were caused by idiotic KKK members and a twisted former Presbyterian minister. But nonetheless, they probably tied themselves to a Christian belief. [/quote]

So why don’t people stereotype christians as dangerous extremists?

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Good question. If you take in the number of bombings, arson crimes, etc., in the U.S, I would say a very small percentage is based on religion itself and even smaller percentage of that on Christianity. Now Im sure you will say,“Then why is Islam considered such a dangerous religion?” I think 2 reasons. First off, like I said in another thread, people are ill informed and are quick to judge what they see on the media. Secondly, if you look not only in America but in other parts of the world, terrorist attacks are largely caused by Muslim extremists. At different points in history, different races, religions, and groups have been viewed as terrorists. In the past few decades, its been Muslims due to rise of twisted leaders.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I do think there is something of a point to make in observing the reactions of Americans in terms of trying to magnify the “otherness” of certain people (as the root of a problem), and how that leads to discrimination against all of those “others”.

So, if a white christian bombs an abortion clinic, or a civilian area is bombed by the Irish Republican Army, or Ted Kaczynski sends mail bombs out – very few Americans start saying (or implying) that white people are somehow more likely than others to set off bombs. But whenever an Islamic terrorist does so, or plans to do so, it’s simply written off as “See? Muslims are dangerous! Most of them hate America and want to harm us!”

Yes, there is a strong element of racism/xenophobia when the actions of “someone like me” have specific, independent reasons not attached to their likeness of me and the actions of “someone unlike me” have reasons attached to their unlikeness of me.[/quote]

I like the FBI stats were 7% of the terrorist acts committed in the US were committed by extremist Jews, compared with 6% committed by extremist Muslims.

The very same people who would cry foul when anyone accused Jews of being particaulary violent have not problem with turning around and doing the very same with Muslims.

Oh well. [/quote]

And your source is…?

I think we should all keep in mind that an attack being labelled as a terrorist attack depends on who is reporting it, ie terrorists-insurgents-freedom fighters-infidels-etc-etc.

[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I do think there is something of a point to make in observing the reactions of Americans in terms of trying to magnify the “otherness” of certain people (as the root of a problem), and how that leads to discrimination against all of those “others”.

So, if a white christian bombs an abortion clinic, or a civilian area is bombed by the Irish Republican Army, or Ted Kaczynski sends mail bombs out – very few Americans start saying (or implying) that white people are somehow more likely than others to set off bombs. But whenever an Islamic terrorist does so, or plans to do so, it’s simply written off as “See? Muslims are dangerous! Most of them hate America and want to harm us!”

Yes, there is a strong element of racism/xenophobia when the actions of “someone like me” have specific, independent reasons not attached to their likeness of me and the actions of “someone unlike me” have reasons attached to their unlikeness of me.[/quote]

I like the FBI stats were 7% of the terrorist acts committed in the US were committed by extremist Jews, compared with 6% committed by extremist Muslims.

The very same people who would cry foul when anyone accused Jews of being particaulary violent have not problem with turning around and doing the very same with Muslims.

Oh well. [/quote]

And your source is…?
[/quote]

Now if we also added envoronmentalists and communits that justs happened to be Jewish, like we all know some people would in the case of Muslims, the only possibkle solution is an immediate attack on Israel.

Bottom of the page.

I agree with Maximus and Matty on this.
I think its laughable that 3/4 of the 911 terrorists were Saudi yet Iran and Iraq took the brunt in VISA filtration process, wtf lol. Our gov’t is a controlled POS.

The bigger thing we need to consider, is who the heck thinks it is a good idea to let guys from a country where they haven’t even ever seen a woman’s ankle, take a 12 hour flight to the USA, and be unleashed on a college campus? Aside from a general lack of respect for women, what about the potential for rape? It doesn’t take a PHD in Psychology to figure that one out.

The current government and society in America is a corrupt, pussy, piece of shit, that needs to be burned to the fucking ground ala 1812. Etch-a-sketch all the laws since 1900 and start the fuck over, with a revamped constiution.

Seriously.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I do think there is something of a point to make in observing the reactions of Americans in terms of trying to magnify the “otherness” of certain people (as the root of a problem), and how that leads to discrimination against all of those “others”.

So, if a white christian bombs an abortion clinic, or a civilian area is bombed by the Irish Republican Army, or Ted Kaczynski sends mail bombs out – very few Americans start saying (or implying) that white people are somehow more likely than others to set off bombs. But whenever an Islamic terrorist does so, or plans to do so, it’s simply written off as “See? Muslims are dangerous! Most of them hate America and want to harm us!”

Yes, there is a strong element of racism/xenophobia when the actions of “someone like me” have specific, independent reasons not attached to their likeness of me and the actions of “someone unlike me” have reasons attached to their unlikeness of me.[/quote]

I like the FBI stats were 7% of the terrorist acts committed in the US were committed by extremist Jews, compared with 6% committed by extremist Muslims.

The very same people who would cry foul when anyone accused Jews of being particaulary violent have not problem with turning around and doing the very same with Muslims.

Oh well. [/quote]

And your source is…?
[/quote]

Now if we also added envoronmentalists and communits that justs happened to be Jewish, like we all know some people would in the case of Muslims, the only possibkle solution is an immediate attack on Israel.

Bottom of the page. [/quote]

The FBI source material dates from 1980 to 2005; hardly a contemporary tally.
And the “Jewish” terrorist acts so listed are from two groups, JDL/JDA. The last such entry was in 1986.
(If one reads the text from 2002-2005, there is perhaps one nutcase of Jewish origin among the many other examples.)

As for “envoronmentalists (sc) and communits (sic) that justs (sic) happened to be Jewish,” I would presume you must have some special talent to divine their origins.

It seems that “Loonwatch” has found its audience.

[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I do think there is something of a point to make in observing the reactions of Americans in terms of trying to magnify the “otherness” of certain people (as the root of a problem), and how that leads to discrimination against all of those “others”.

So, if a white christian bombs an abortion clinic, or a civilian area is bombed by the Irish Republican Army, or Ted Kaczynski sends mail bombs out – very few Americans start saying (or implying) that white people are somehow more likely than others to set off bombs. But whenever an Islamic terrorist does so, or plans to do so, it’s simply written off as “See? Muslims are dangerous! Most of them hate America and want to harm us!”

Yes, there is a strong element of racism/xenophobia when the actions of “someone like me” have specific, independent reasons not attached to their likeness of me and the actions of “someone unlike me” have reasons attached to their unlikeness of me.[/quote]

I like the FBI stats were 7% of the terrorist acts committed in the US were committed by extremist Jews, compared with 6% committed by extremist Muslims.

The very same people who would cry foul when anyone accused Jews of being particaulary violent have not problem with turning around and doing the very same with Muslims.

Oh well. [/quote]

And your source is…?
[/quote]

Now if we also added envoronmentalists and communits that justs happened to be Jewish, like we all know some people would in the case of Muslims, the only possibkle solution is an immediate attack on Israel.

Bottom of the page. [/quote]

The FBI source material dates from 1980 to 2005; hardly a contemporary tally.
And the “Jewish” terrorist acts so listed are from two groups, JDL/JDA. The last such entry was in 1986.
(If one reads the text from 2002-2005, there is perhaps one nutcase of Jewish origin among the many other examples.)

As for “envoronmentalists (sc) and communits (sic) that justs (sic) happened to be Jewish,” I would presume you must have some special talent to divine their origins.

It seems that “Loonwatch” has found its audience.

[/quote]

I just knew that there would be apologists for Jewish extremism.

Just wait until they make you wear a Kippa and impose the Halakha on you.

Did you know that Jewish courts are already established in parts of Europe, effectively establishing a separate legal system based on the Jewish faith?

I dont care if you are blind to this clear and present danger due to your lefty-pinko-commie-pacifist bias, this threat obviously must be stopped by any means necessary!

And dont get me started on Israel as a terror sponsoring state.

If you are still in denial I can quote Jewish scripture regarding their long and violent past and rabbis calling for the killing of Mulsims and other gentiles.

Does anyone else find it weird that in Orion’s graph the groups are;

Extreme Left Wing Groups, Jewish Extremists, Islamic Extremists, Communists, “LATINOS,” and Others

Latinos? That subcategory doesn’t seem to fit.

Not disputing the graph and its numbers, just found it odd…

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I do think there is something of a point to make in observing the reactions of Americans in terms of trying to magnify the “otherness” of certain people (as the root of a problem), and how that leads to discrimination against all of those “others”.

So, if a white christian bombs an abortion clinic, or a civilian area is bombed by the Irish Republican Army, or Ted Kaczynski sends mail bombs out – very few Americans start saying (or implying) that white people are somehow more likely than others to set off bombs. But whenever an Islamic terrorist does so, or plans to do so, it’s simply written off as “See? Muslims are dangerous! Most of them hate America and want to harm us!”

Yes, there is a strong element of racism/xenophobia when the actions of “someone like me” have specific, independent reasons not attached to their likeness of me and the actions of “someone unlike me” have reasons attached to their unlikeness of me.[/quote]

I like the FBI stats were 7% of the terrorist acts committed in the US were committed by extremist Jews, compared with 6% committed by extremist Muslims.

The very same people who would cry foul when anyone accused Jews of being particaulary violent have not problem with turning around and doing the very same with Muslims.

Oh well. [/quote]

And your source is…?
[/quote]

Now if we also added envoronmentalists and communits that justs happened to be Jewish, like we all know some people would in the case of Muslims, the only possibkle solution is an immediate attack on Israel.

Bottom of the page. [/quote]

The FBI source material dates from 1980 to 2005; hardly a contemporary tally.
And the “Jewish” terrorist acts so listed are from two groups, JDL/JDA. The last such entry was in 1986.
(If one reads the text from 2002-2005, there is perhaps one nutcase of Jewish origin among the many other examples.)

As for “envoronmentalists (sc) and communits (sic) that justs (sic) happened to be Jewish,” I would presume you must have some special talent to divine their origins.

It seems that “Loonwatch” has found its audience.

[/quote]

I just knew that there would be apologists for Jewish extremism.

Just wait until they make you wear a Kippa and impose the Halakha on you.

Did you know that Jewish courts are already established in parts of Europe, effectively establishing a separate legal system based on the Jewish faith?

I dont care if you are blind to this clear and present danger due to your lefty-pinko-commie-pacifist bias, this threat obviously must be stopped by any means necessary!

And dont get me started on Israel as a terror sponsoring state.

If you are still in denial I can quote Jewish scripture regarding their long and violent past and rabbis calling for the killing of Mulsims and other gentiles.

[/quote]

Ah, more of the Austrian “new math,” I see.

5X = 110x ???

“Ah, what the hell; it’s all the same.”[/quote]

It is, if x i.e. threat posed by both is exactly zero.

I know that is not how American math works, especially if Pentagon and defense budgets are at stake, but in the rest of the known universe it works just fine.

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I do think there is something of a point to make in observing the reactions of Americans in terms of trying to magnify the “otherness” of certain people (as the root of a problem), and how that leads to discrimination against all of those “others”.

So, if a white christian bombs an abortion clinic, or a civilian area is bombed by the Irish Republican Army, or Ted Kaczynski sends mail bombs out – very few Americans start saying (or implying) that white people are somehow more likely than others to set off bombs. But whenever an Islamic terrorist does so, or plans to do so, it’s simply written off as “See? Muslims are dangerous! Most of them hate America and want to harm us!”

Yes, there is a strong element of racism/xenophobia when the actions of “someone like me” have specific, independent reasons not attached to their likeness of me and the actions of “someone unlike me” have reasons attached to their unlikeness of me.[/quote]

I like the FBI stats were 7% of the terrorist acts committed in the US were committed by extremist Jews, compared with 6% committed by extremist Muslims.

The very same people who would cry foul when anyone accused Jews of being particaulary violent have not problem with turning around and doing the very same with Muslims.

Oh well. [/quote]

And your source is…?
[/quote]

Now if we also added envoronmentalists and communits that justs happened to be Jewish, like we all know some people would in the case of Muslims, the only possibkle solution is an immediate attack on Israel.

Bottom of the page. [/quote]

The FBI source material dates from 1980 to 2005; hardly a contemporary tally.
And the “Jewish” terrorist acts so listed are from two groups, JDL/JDA. The last such entry was in 1986.
(If one reads the text from 2002-2005, there is perhaps one nutcase of Jewish origin among the many other examples.)

As for “envoronmentalists (sc) and communits (sic) that justs (sic) happened to be Jewish,” I would presume you must have some special talent to divine their origins.

It seems that “Loonwatch” has found its audience.

[/quote]

I just knew that there would be apologists for Jewish extremism.

Just wait until they make you wear a Kippa and impose the Halakha on you.

Did you know that Jewish courts are already established in parts of Europe, effectively establishing a separate legal system based on the Jewish faith?

I dont care if you are blind to this clear and present danger due to your lefty-pinko-commie-pacifist bias, this threat obviously must be stopped by any means necessary!

And dont get me started on Israel as a terror sponsoring state.

If you are still in denial I can quote Jewish scripture regarding their long and violent past and rabbis calling for the killing of Mulsims and other gentiles.

[/quote]

Ah, more of the Austrian “new math,” I see.

5X = 110x ???

“Ah, what the hell; it’s all the same.”[/quote]

It is, if x i.e. threat posed by both is exactly zero.

I know that is not how American math works, especially if Pentagon and defense budgets are at stake, but in the rest of the known universe it works just fine.

[/quote]

Nobody is telling you what is and what is not a threat to that city you call a country.

How about you let America decide what is and is not a threat to itself.

Austrian views of what is good for the world have proven in the last century to be almost laughably catastrophic anyway . [/quote]

That is neither here nor there, if we had won we would have written your schoolbooks and you would sing an entirely different tune.

Not that you have needed us to demonize an entire people to justify violence against them and etsblish a surveillance state and immense executive power, you were perfectly capable of doing that on your own.

[quote]Deorum wrote:
OMG! ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE BROWN PEOPLE TRIED TO BLOW SOMETHING UP!!! Good thing good ol’ fashion white people don’t do that in these here states… Fucking spare me this bullshit. And for what its worth, if I was from anywhere but America - I would want you people dead as well. It’s amazing how people truly cannot learn from history…

I for one, cannot wait until this Rome collapses. If only to see the insecure faces of those with thought patterns resembling yours, tremble with fear.[/quote]

Not mentioning modern factors like integration of economies and the outstanding technological gap between America and all other countries in the world, Rome imploded from the inside and dominated for 3 centuries after its height of power. So, I guess America’s got another 400 years as the most powerful nation in the world then?

[quote]spyoptic wrote:

[quote]Deorum wrote:
OMG! ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE BROWN PEOPLE TRIED TO BLOW SOMETHING UP!!! Good thing good ol’ fashion white people don’t do that in these here states… Fucking spare me this bullshit. And for what its worth, if I was from anywhere but America - I would want you people dead as well. It’s amazing how people truly cannot learn from history…

I for one, cannot wait until this Rome collapses. If only to see the insecure faces of those with thought patterns resembling yours, tremble with fear.[/quote]

Not mentioning modern factors like integration of economies and the outstanding technological gap between America and all other countries in the world, Rome imploded from the inside and dominated for 3 centuries after its height of power. So, I guess America’s got another 400 years as the most powerful nation in the world then?
[/quote]

No, the technological and economic changes happen much faster now.

[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
I agree with Maximus and Matty on this.
I think its laughable that 3/4 of the 911 terrorists were Saudi yet Iran and Iraq took the brunt in VISA filtration process, wtf lol. Our gov’t is a controlled POS.
[/quote]

We’ve been taking it in the ass from the Saudis for a long time. They snub their noses at all things American–behind closed doors.

If you’re educated and have skills, you should be given if not be eligible for visa to contribute to the domestic economy. Bring over all the Iranian doctors and scientists and engineers so the mullahs won’t have enough talent to work on military stuff. Brain drain.

It’s not like those countries are the best places to live, either, given the fragile economy and high unemployment. The best talent want to all leave and go broad. I say we let them.

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:

[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
I agree with Maximus and Matty on this.
I think its laughable that 3/4 of the 911 terrorists were Saudi yet Iran and Iraq took the brunt in VISA filtration process, wtf lol. Our gov’t is a controlled POS.
[/quote]

We’ve been taking it in the ass from the Saudis for a long time. They snub their noses at all things American–behind closed doors.

If you’re educated and have skills, you should be given if not be eligible for visa to contribute to the domestic economy. Bring over all the Iranian doctors and scientists and engineers so the mullahs won’t have enough talent to work on military stuff. Brain drain.

It’s not like those countries are the best places to live, either, given the fragile economy and high unemployment. The best talent want to all leave and go broad. I say we let them.[/quote]

You cannot interfere in a whole region’s economic, military and political structure for nigh on 100 years and not expect repurcussions

I know many Iranians, some of whom live in Europe, some in Iran. They - hate - Britain for its role in overthrowing Mossadeq, nearly 50 years ago. Egyptians remember Suez; Palestinians remember the Balfour declaration. And though Britain’s interefence pro causa oil is utterly shameful it dwindles beneath the interference of the Americans. Chickens coming home to roost.

NB: Saying nothing about America, or Americans, merely American foreign policy.