Hey I was just thinking how our politics currently pander to the American religious right under the guise of a moral crusade against terrorism, mean people, Muslims, etc, and was wondering…how would Jesus handle the current Iraq/Iran/Afghanistan/‘Terrorism’ situation.
First I think he would be a man to carry a custom m-16 w/ scope into combat (spraying and praying,) don’t ask me why it’s Jesus lol! Also I think he would follow Sherman’s ‘Scorched Earth Policy,’ you know for less total suffering (that’s my Jesus!).
I think he would also tell Iran to screw off and start drilling pilots in the use of tactical underground nuclear warheads, so they won’t miss lol. This is getting exciting Jesus could kill anybody!
No no no! He could walk on water over the Persian Gulf with a sneak attack lol @ Jesus. Do you think he would wear kevlar or robes…or both? Would he even need kevlar!?
Hi, how do you think Jesus would conduct warfare to ensure peace?
He would keep turning the other cheek like the enlightened liberal he is, until somebody blew him the fuck up.
A few days later he would stand up, look at the carnage he had allowed and say, “Uh… I meant to do that. It was all part of My plan. Somebody write this shit down.”
[quote]Cunnivore wrote:
He would keep turning the other cheek like the enlightened liberal he is, until somebody blew him the fuck up.
A few days later he would stand up, look at the carnage he had allowed and say, “Uh… I meant to do that. It was all part of My plan. Somebody write this shit down.”[/quote]
I think they would hang him on a cross. He would then rise from the dead 3 days later.
While you’re at it, Jeff - you might as well ask him how leaving Iraq now makes things better for all those brown, funny-talking folk those damn neocons hate so much.
Go ahead, ask him, I need a laugh.
[quote]JeffR wrote:
I’m going to ask again, please link one reference to a prominent Republican directly or indirectly implying that Muslims are lesser beings.
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The problem here is not that. It’s the capitalist, western ideals that people are viewing the situation with. We (the US) are viewing with one set of lenses while the people we are struggling are viewing thru a different set of lenses. I think liberals (and this is just my opinion) have a better understanding of these obstacles whereas conservatives insist that “our” way is better and though they may understand the fundamental differences of western life they are quick to dismiss it as a lack of western cultures and ideal that has caused their situation–i.e., lack of democracy, capitalism etc.
I don’t think there have been any intelligent republicans that have made the claim that Muslims are inferior–though I am sure they often think Christianity is the end-all-be-all.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
JeffR wrote:
I’m going to ask again, please link one reference to a prominent Republican directly or indirectly implying that Muslims are lesser beings.
The problem here is not that. It’s the capitalist, western ideals that people are viewing the situation with. We (the US) are viewing with one set of lenses while the people we are struggling are viewing thru a different set of lenses. I think liberals (and this is just my opinion) have a better understanding of these obstacles whereas conservatives insist that “our” way is better and though they may understand the fundamental differences of western life they are quick to dismiss it as a lack of western cultures and ideal that has caused their situation–i.e., lack of democracy, capitalism etc.
I don’t think there have been any intelligent republicans that have made the claim that Muslims are inferior–though I am sure they often think Christianity is the end-all-be-all.[/quote]
Kind of funny considering Islam is extremely conservative and opposes almost every ideal liberals espouse.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Kind of funny considering Islam is extremely conservative and opposes almost every ideal liberals espouse.[/quote]
Yes, but has nothing to do with the ability to see where the flaw in conservative thinking might lie. The trick is to know when a particular bias might be affecting one’s judgement which is often hard to judge of ourselves because we never want to be the person who is flawed in that way. That’s why we post our opinions here–we want to be told when we are full of shit. It’s very therapeutic.
[quote]Cunnivore wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
That’s why we post our opinions here–we want to be told when we are full of shit. It’s very therapeutic.
I think you’re about to get what you want.[/quote]
The problem here is not that. It’s the capitalist, western ideals that people are viewing the situation with. We (the US) are viewing with one set of lenses while the people we are struggling are viewing thru a different set of lenses. [/quote]
Yes, Westerners - some of them - believe in the rightness of their values and consider them non-negotiable. Islamists believe in the rightness of their values and consider them non-negotiable.
Well, you got half of it right - liberals tend to refuse that one system is better than another. I don’t doubt they have a “better” understanding of rank relativism, but that isn’t a good thing.
There is nothing racially inferior about Muslims (assuming most of them are Arab, or at least non-white), but the culture is, by our lights, most definitely inferior. Is imposing our superior culture a good idea? Not generally, in isolation, I don’t think so - but in the heightened circumstance where there is a clash between cultures, one must win and one must lose.
In that sordid event, if Western values can help mitigate that conflict - i.e., Muslim nations are likely to drop out of the clash of civilizations if they Westernize - then when the opportunity presents itself, try and plant the seed.
