What? LOL! Do you have a link?
Same page now. I am under the impression that elevated E2 plus any 19-NOR compound can contribute to increased proloctin levels. Correct me if I am wrong?
Correct, and according to OP’s blood work his E2 is completely out of control.
Parabolan used to be known to raise prolactin. however, the newer versions of tren do not…
Nandrolone does, however, and doesn’t need E2 to be elevated to do so.
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Parabolan used to be known to raise prolactin. however, the newer versions of tren do not…
Could you explain why?
I will look into some studies on Nandrolone.
And that could definitely be the cause of my “neediness” and “emotional” attitude, right? To be honest, “49” didn’t seem that high to me but everyone says otherwise… I’ve heard to feel great, it should be between 20-28. Do you know if this is correct?
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Yeah 49 is extremely high, and it can definitely make you emotional and edgy. You have to take the lab ranges with a grain of salt and learn what optimal is. For many people that is 22 on the nose, and probably between 20 and 25 for the vast majority. For instance, I’ve never let mine get high before, but I know when it goes below 18 my libido starts to disappear and it’s time to chill on the adex.
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I doubt it but I cannot “correct you” since my views are based on vet studies(due to a terrible lack of human studies on this subject), my own previous bloodwork and bloodwork of people I have found to be trustworthy. On a balance of probabilities, I find this more convincing than random posts by anonymous people on various forums.
Note:
This does not mean I’m not going to recommend a DA to someone intending to do tren since it’s not possible to determine what he’s really getting from his source.
It could also be caused by suppression of thyroid hormones among other things. Stop speculating and go see a qualified endocrinologist.
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i’ve been doing a lot of reading on optimal E2 for men, and have found that 21-29 seem to be optimal when paired with normal testosterone levels. when testosterone levels are significantly higher, i suspect that number can creep up a bit…
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It does make sense that a balance might be struck with higher levels, and may be something to experiment with, but personally when I’m on half a gram of test and my E2 is in the low 20s my libido, well being, sleep quality, etc. are through the roof, so I don’t see any improvement possible tinkering with higher E2, at least in my case. Plus I’m already on lisinopril/hctz, so I like to keep water retention to an absolute minimum.
Interesting that as high as 29 would be considered optimal.
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Seriously? You missed that?
Aw man I wish I did had a link; it was a few years ago now. It was a thread - a blatant troll thread - where some dude claimed he had to come off tren because he was sharing a bed with his sister one night for some reason and in the night had the uncontrollable urge to attempt to rape her.
It was a classic!
Does no one else remember?
I FOUND IT!!!
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Exactly, not human studies based on using Trenbolone and Tesosterone simultaneously in high doses.
I will not discredit your anecdotal experience though and do some research into the matter but I believe myself to be right. I will simply agree to disagree with you, we seem to be hijacking the thread, as this could go on for days.
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