"It's Just the Flu, Bro!"

For the record, I’m in Virginia, and our governor is a moron, and our hospitals are absolutely nowhere near capacity, yet he continues to treat our state like it’s New York, haha. You’d never know anything was even happening here - people are generally keeping away from each other and doing the social distancing thing, but if I could reopen VA tomorrow, I would. Way more spread out here.

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Case in point (sorry for the bombardment):

Virginia is having so few cases that with stopping elective surgeries we laid off 30 thousand health care workers. Other states are scrambling to find them, and we’re laying them off to prevent overworking them…

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I worked in NYC for one week. I did the commute from Greenwich, CT station to Grand Central and then Lower Manhattan and back. It was just for a class my employer sent me to, but I got to experience the cattle car commute. You’re literally packed like sardines in there, body-on-body. It was such a strange experience for me that’s totally normal for MILLIONS of people.

Mass transit conditions have to have played a part in this, along with many other factors. Nobody in Maine encounters a petri dish remotely resembling an 8:20 am subway ride from Grand Central to Lower Manhattan during a normal day, or maybe even a normal lifetime.

It obviously isn’t the flu, but this doesn’t seem to be taking hold where I live in any way that resembles the NYC outbreak. That’s why I’m still more concerned with moose collisions, strictly for my own personal safety. I’ve been driving a lot less lately, so hopefully my risk is lowered significantly. I’m not making light of the virus here either, but pointing out a statistical reality where I live at this point in time.

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I have not lived in NYC for almost 2 decades. But iirc, Maimonides Medical Center services an area where people definitely do not practice “social distancing”. Just to add to the point(s) being made about NYC.

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Agreed. I very much agree with what @twojarslave is saying, too. We can’t go around telling areas that are clearly not in danger, that they ARE in danger. Maine isn’t going to have an alarming death toll. Even if Maine had 100% stayed open it likely wouldn’t have had one either. We didn’t know that for sure in February, of course, but it shouldn’t have taken long to look around and say, okay, what can we open, and what areas need more attention? It’s a bullshit ploy for some politicians to minimize their Coronavirus death count - a tangible number - and the tradeoff is destroying people’s livelihoods, which is not as trackable of a statistic.

Hindsight is always 20/20, but I wanted a stricter lockdown for a shorter period of time (2-3 weeks, and only because we just didn’t know enough at that point to ignore this), and this half-open-but-closed-enough-to-kill-businesses bullshit lasting for months is exactly what I was afraid of.

I’m not as far across the aisle as some would think, but I bristle at the comparison to flu, and at the continuous jokes about how some granny is already weak and therefore this is something we’ve all seen before. New York is at 19 thousand dead, and these areas might be bad at social distancing, but there’s still more social distancing than ever before, and people are dying fast. Let’s talk obstruction of rights all day - I’m all for it, and IMO, it’s valid in a lot of cases, but I’m not gonna play the game where someone backs up their argument with a comparison that has been consistently shown to be false. That’s my beef with this, not discussing why people are insisting on keeping areas shut down that should not be.

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Don’t talk about Coonman that way.

Ugh, the word slimy just doesn’t even begin to describe that scumbag.

Or his wife, who handed out cotton to black students on a tour…soon after the blackface scandal…

They’re everywhere, but it’s important to call out, and genuinely feel outrage for those on your side of the political aisle.

That is correct. He’d probably be gone if there wasn’t a guy with sexual assault accusations right behind him.

LOL! Haven’t heard this.

“A Virginia state employee has complained that her eighth-grade daughter was upset during a tour of the historic governor’s residence when first lady Pam Northam handed raw cotton to her and another African American child and asked them to imagine being enslaved and having to pick the crop.”

Can’t make this up.

Again, speaking of reaching across the political aisle, there’s a pretty powerful guy who’s all but proven that sexual assault allegations mean jack shit.

Ahhhh…that’s good stuff.

Well, Democrats have attempted to weaponize them. It’s one thing to say they mean nothing, but it’s another to say they do…but they don’t-that’s the problem for them.

And Republicans have attempted to minimize them. I am honestly not sure what it’s going to take to convince you that making every single thing into a partisan flame-fest is counterproductive to progress in the country, and hurts everyone. I’ve been trying to hint at it pretty strongly, but you’re literally able to deflect everything said about the side you align with and hurl it back in the other direction, and until that changes, nothing productive is going to happen here. Later, dude.

Right. That’s correct. Fairfax is a Democrat, though. It’s hard for Democrats to believe all accusers…except when they accuse a Democrat. Personally? I’d call BS on Fairfax’s accusers as well.

What if that meant a bunch of tourists from out of state, driving up from NY or taking a plane (which is a nice petri dish), arrived there?

They already have.

The out-of-state plates started showing up a little early this year and plenty of lake homes and cabins got opened up before Memorial Day. I mean, our governor can’t convince people to wear masks even though its now a requirement. Do you think she did a good job of convincing anyone to stay in their infected urban centers instead of opening up their camp in Maine?

Lolololololol…

I’ll defer to you since you are there, is this a good thing or a potentially bad thing?

I know they do BJJ camps in Maine. Are they still a go?

Like everything else, we won’t know until it all finishes playing out, but it doesn’t seem to be a bad thing. Our number have been flat for some time now. I mean, my brother just recovered in his basement while his wife managed to not get infected despite living together. It’s clearly not the flu, but distancing measures also seem to work.

So these yahoos all come North a couple months early and then what? Hang out at their camps and go about their business shopping at the same stores the rest of us are, I suppose. I can’t really imagine anything besides that happening. Even if they’re infected, it is beginning to seem like even a basic level of distancing can be quite effective.

If I’m wrong, I suppose our explosion in cases may be right around the corner.

I highly doubt it. I don’t know about Jocko’s camp but the BJJ community will be among the last to formally open. There is a combination of understanding and much grumbling about this.

Until then, only outlaws will train jiu jitsu when jiu jitsu is outlawed.

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Mirando a su cara puedo adivinar que ella es una mujer calma, guapa y sobre todo muy intelligente. Y con almenos diez gatos

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Muy divertido.