There are studies that show a link between extreme obesity and sexual abuse in childhood.
My one brothers observation- Don’t take restaurant recommendations from fat people. They don’t care if its good, as long as there’s a lot of it.
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To be honest, I think restaurant recommendations from larger people might be better. But maybe skip the after dinner mint.
The issue is not being large, but being metabolically healthy. Losing weight is overrated. Perhaps you are large but in good shape, on few medications and able to perform well.
If you are into buffets or all you can eat starches.
But, it’s wafer thin!
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@zecarlo On the subject of chubby runners: definitely an easy observation to make. I imagine a big part of it is simply that running is SO accessible that it’s going to draw from a large portion of the population, and our population is pretty fat. And it doesn’t really take much to participate in a run compared to something like a strongman competition or a grappling tournament. Hell, people sign up to walk half marathons. But it’s also definitely an activity that encourages eating some awful stuff in large quantities. At the end of every race I’ve done, there’s a buffet of bagels, donuts, candy and all sorts of other treats that are WAY too easy to eat beyond caloric burn.
@Dani_Shugart definitely something to be said about the presence of drugs and their impact. Stimulants, like nicotine, have been in large usage in our history. Hell, cocaine was considered part of a health tonic for quite a while. I was watching a “Food that built America” where they talked about a lawsuit against CoCa Cola because they removed the cocaine and put in caffeine and the government wanted them to reverse that decision! “Take out that dangerous caffeine and put back in the wholesome cocaine!”
@The_Myth Glad you found this helpful! I write it for myself as well. Understanding that the foods we are meant to eat are there to turn us into something better than we are goes a long way.
@burt128 That proper fueling aspect is HUGE. I experienced the same. We hunger for nutrients: not energy. We need to satisfy that hunger.
@jdm135 Appreciate you swinging by! Those rants were awesome: appreciated you sharing them. It’s amazing the degree of “learned helplessness” we see in the population.
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On the subject of obesity and mental illness, there’s definitely some stuff going on underneath the surface.
The food industry specifically engineers food to be hyper-palatable. It’s quite literally “beyond delicious”. They create foods and flavors that could never possibly exist in nature, and this stuff short circuits our brains and taste buds and compels us to consume in MASSIVE quantities. And because this food is so nutrient devoid, it never actually satiates us, so we just keep on eating and eating until we run out of STOMACH space, but we still aren’t actually satisfied. So, already, we’re starting off screwed.
But then you take it a step further: we’ve seen studies showing that frequent exposure to these dopamine cannons eventually results in us building up a tolerance. We no longer get the same buzz that we used to…unless we up the dose! And then, we consider how obesity reduces our insulin sensitivity, which goes even further into delaying the satisfaction we once derived from these treats, so, again, we have to consume them in larger quantities to get our fix. It’s addiction at work.
Meanwhile, once you get clean from the junk, if you ever go back to it, just a little dose will send you to the moon. You become sensitive to it, because you’ve re-calibrated yourself correctly. Whereas, before, your constant exposure that that hyper-palatable food actually conditioned you to ONLY desire that. We lose our ability to appreciate simple tastes and flavors. We’ve developed “Gas station tastebuds”, to quote Mark Bell.
This is why you see those folks on “My 600lb life” binging on foods we consider “less than”: they’re just trying to score that fix.
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I think the problem here is that you won’t be healthy for long. You don’t go from fit to dead immediately. Increasing insulin resistance, elevated cholesterol, artery calcification et cetera over time will eventually catch up.
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Thanks a lot, @Brant_Drake
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I am okay with this as long as it remains a personal decision.
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You are not in shape if you are large and on medication. I really don’t think being large, even if muscular, is healthy.
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Sure. I don’t think anyone should have decisions made for them, but from the perspective of good health it’s problematic.
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I’d take their recommendation.
I’d definitely eat a fat guy’s cooking.
A fat guy’s cooking is not the same as a fat guy’s restaurant recommendation.
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I would enjoy both zecarlo.
Do you remember “My meal with Mongo” from Marty Gallagher’s “Purposeful Primitive”?
I do not.
Give it a re-read. It will highlight the issues with this approach.
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You son of a bitch. I have been deliberately avoiding this thread.
“Never trust a skinny chef.”
Nah, the best food comes from the lean, hungry, and ambitious cooks who look like wolves and are on the cigarette and cocaine diet plan.
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lol
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