I can’t believe some people still believe that the calories you eat are the only ones used by your body unless you’re in a dietary deficit… which seems to be the consensus of the calorie counting crowd.
I would contend that if you took someone in calorie balance at let’s say 2,000 cals per day including their expenditure… and then increased calories (any source) and made them lift weights for the same amount…
Let’s say +500 in and -500 from activity… so theoretically at balance, you would argue body composition would not change, because they are not in a calorie deficit, making it impossible to lose fat. Increase the intake and expenditure even more to athletic proportions and the discrepancy becomes even easier to see.
CALORIES MATTER. But so do nutrient timing and partitioning.
The whole concept of G-Flux in regular people and the athletic population is completely lost by some in this thread.
[quote]ksommer wrote:
I can’t believe some people still believe that the calories you eat are the only ones used by your body unless you’re in a dietary deficit… which seems to be the consensus of the calorie counting crowd.
I would contend that if you took someone in calorie balance at let’s say 2,000 cals per day including their expenditure… and then increased calories (any source) and made them lift weights for the same amount…
Let’s say +500 in and -500 from activity… so theoretically at balance, you would argue body composition would not change, because they are not in a calorie deficit, making it impossible to lose fat. Increase the intake and expenditure even more to athletic proportions and the discrepancy becomes even easier to see.
CALORIES MATTER. But so do nutrient timing and partitioning.
The whole concept of G-Flux in regular people and the athletic population is completely lost by some in this thread.[/quote]
this thread has strayed so far from the original question that it’s hardly worth posting in anymore. but i’ll throw in my .02 once again.
nobody is debating the merits of nutrient timing (i.e. consuming carbs + protein around intense training sessions)
however, i DO get upset when people say things like:
“as long as you eat the right foods, then calories don’t matter.”
or “the calories in an apple don’t make you as fat as the calories in apple juice.”
or another favorite of mine:
“as long as you eat the correct macronuteint percentages, then calories don’t matter.”
You are not using whey to get quick protein in the morning when you need it which is stupid…You should split your breakfast up…
When you wake up eat a banana with whey protein
wait 30 minutes and then have your real breakfast. I eat a 1/2 cup of oatmeal with half/half, 5 eggs with american cheese, cup of coffee if you drink coffee.