Is This the End of Roe v. Wade?

Are we quantifying here?

It’s okay to make arrangements for and adoption, but it is not okay to leave the kid with a binky on a street corner?

Wow, what great parents they are. They actually abandoned their progeny with an adoption agency, let’s laud them.

Sorry if I am harsh, don’t mean to be. I don’t often agree with @BrickHead, but always respect his opinion

I am guessing you do not have kids.

FWIW, I am that guy that your parents warned you about, but I only procreated twice. With intent. So much intent I can tell when and where both of my kids were conceived.

So yes, I was a total whore, and in those years I always wore a condom and never impregnated anyone, until I did it on purpose. And if one of my kids had issues, I was going to own it, as I mentioned above regarding the triple test. I was blessed that both of my kids were healthy, but I was going to love them either way.

I was not going to adopt them out, or abort them. They were mine, and I was going to love them and raise them.

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Are you saying the child would be better off dead? Then yes we disagree.

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I agree, but its a separate issue from abortion. Otherwise adoption wouldnt exist.

I have a 4 and a 3 year old. Both are happy any healthy, though my son has autism and is currently non verbal. I agree, id never give up my kids for anything.
Edit: Just realized this said to Nick. Oh well.

Seems like they also chose to put the burden on the tax payers if that child became a ward of the state which was also a likely possibilty. Just saying…

Regarding generations, sexual revolution as we know it started in the 1920’s. One can read about the Frankfurt School, made up of real-deal SJW and “critical theory” OG’s, which originated in and was booted out of Germany, and had their literature burned in book burnings by National Socialists.

Women were already publicly undressing here in the 1920’s and the revolution lost steam during the depression and WWII, but took off in the 1960’s. And now we’re in full throttle.

Easy abortion is just one element of the revolution.

I don’t blame any one generation collectively. I blame the revolutionaries.

Each successive generation’s men benefits less than the previous one from this revolution. Men who “benefit” (get lots of “free” sex) from it are largely poon hounds.

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So, kill the undesirables? Crippled, elderly, mental handicap?

In this case the county did play a role in the adoption and some of the subsequent medical attention the child needed. But, not a ward of the state. Fully adopted by another family.

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I wasn’t. But it sounds like the number of children being discussed is: one.

It’s preferable. And it’s not even close.

NO ONE has said that. But they didn’t kill the child they made.

I didn’t get the impression this is what happened, since even @Alrightmiami19c is somewhat aware of what has happened with the child over time.

Again, no one has said anything remotely like this.

You’re wrong, but that has nothing to do with this topic.

Why would my parents warn me about someone like that?

You said that I didn’t. I merely stated another point to consider in the abortion dialogue. Not sure what that has to do with the latter of your statement regarding the elderly etc. I assume the elderly has paid into the system regardless.

The “brave” stance would be to birth the child and care for it. I don’t agree with your sentiment. Seems I’m not the only one.

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I’m sure he meant those parents who would disapprove of a man or woman with a sex-partner count in the triple digits as potential spouses of their children. That’s for good and practical reasons in most cases (there are likely exceptions).

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That would make sense.

Yep.

Maybe.

Correct.

That point is absolute evil. Drags on the state are eliminated.

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Right. Those with hefty “lay counts” are rare, but of those I’ve known, only two men I know have fine marriages. Of the women, all of those I know who were sexualized early and overly socialized are divorced.

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I was in law school on a full-ride when my son was conceived. Before I left for school, I had a job where I traveled around a lot. I had met a waitress at a bar, but we had never gone out. I wrote her a letter and then we talked on the phone a lot. She came out to visit me over Christmas break for 2 days. In March, I found out she was pregnant. Two weeks later I went to where she lived during spring break. We got married after spending 2 more days together (so four day total) She moved back with me to law school. After that semester, I quit law school and moved back to Texas and started teaching to support the family. My son has been the biggest blessing in my life. We did end up divorcing after 12 years (mostly do to my mental illness), and I got custody of my son. Abortion never crossed my mind.

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That’s not the point I made. Why don’t you stay on topic regarding abortion. There are several downstream penalties to birthing an unwanted child. I’m pro choice. Should we now talk about euthanizing stray animals?

To what extent? If you don’t mind me asking

When is the cutoff? When do you consider the fetus as an individual with individual rights?

That’s a whole can of worms that even I’m unsure or to be honest. If I were King of the World and everything were my way? Are you asking that?

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Well, I was, but…

I’ve been a bit back and forth on this subject myself too, so I won’t ask you to put your opinions (which may change over time) on paper for all to see. If you wish to share, feel free to - but I won’t ask you to dedicate yourself to a position you aren’t sold on =)

I’ll think more on that but my stance is that less federal government and more states rights. You choose where you live at least to a degree and align those with your beliefs. Leave the fed government for defense and national infrastructure (not social infrastructure)

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Couldn’t agree more.

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