Is this Chick a Racist?

[quote]BrownTrout wrote:
I hate when people equate the confederacy with white supremacy. Today the Civil War is remembered as little more than a conflict to liberate southern slaves, when in reality this was a side effect of the disavowing of the confederate states of America. The Civil War was about the institutionalization of the federal government and the Uniting of all the states under one supreme authority. I’m actually really afraid by how few people understand this. [/quote]

You should be more scared by how many people won’t understand what you just wrote (no sarcasm)

[quote]polo77j wrote:
BrownTrout wrote:
I hate when people equate the confederacy with white supremacy. Today the Civil War is remembered as little more than a conflict to liberate southern slaves, when in reality this was a side effect of the disavowing of the confederate states of America. The Civil War was about the institutionalization of the federal government and the Uniting of all the states under one supreme authority. I’m actually really afraid by how few people understand this.

You should be more scared by how many people won’t understand what you just wrote (no sarcasm)[/quote]

I’m afraid that he is so afraid. Hold me!

[quote]BrownTrout wrote:
I hate when people equate the confederacy with white supremacy. Today the Civil War is remembered as little more than a conflict to liberate southern slaves, when in reality this was a side effect of the disavowing of the confederate states of America. The Civil War was about the institutionalization of the federal government and the Uniting of all the states under one supreme authority. I’m actually really afraid by how few people understand this. [/quote]

It is impossible to separate the issue of slavery from the argument of states’ rights since it was a major issue within that larger argument. This is something that too many CSA defenders conveniently leave out. Do you think it was a coincidence that the CSA states were all slave states while the Union states were not?

DB

Edit: I forgot the most important point: I would hit that.

[quote]B rocK wrote:
polo77j wrote:
BrownTrout wrote:
I hate when people equate the confederacy with white supremacy. Today the Civil War is remembered as little more than a conflict to liberate southern slaves, when in reality this was a side effect of the disavowing of the confederate states of America. The Civil War was about the institutionalization of the federal government and the Uniting of all the states under one supreme authority. I’m actually really afraid by how few people understand this.

You should be more scared by how many people won’t understand what you just wrote (no sarcasm)

I’m afraid that he is so afraid. Hold me![/quote]

I’m afraid you just asked me to hold you…

I don’t quite think this is what Mlk was marching against.

Confederate flag doesn’t have to be racist, if Black Panther shirts aren’t.

I wonder how a black guy with a confederate flag shirt would do in a bar in Alabama?

Dudes, the confederate flag represents many things before racism…

[quote]jamesBond wrote:
Dudes, the confederate flag represents many things before racism…[/quote]

so you just said that the confederate flag represents many things INCLUDING racism, but not racism in particular … nice debate skills

[quote]polo77j wrote:
B rocK wrote:
polo77j wrote:
BrownTrout wrote:
I hate when people equate the confederacy with white supremacy. Today the Civil War is remembered as little more than a conflict to liberate southern slaves, when in reality this was a side effect of the disavowing of the confederate states of America. The Civil War was about the institutionalization of the federal government and the Uniting of all the states under one supreme authority. I’m actually really afraid by how few people understand this.

You should be more scared by how many people won’t understand what you just wrote (no sarcasm)

I’m afraid that he is so afraid. Hold me!

I’m afraid you just asked me to hold you…[/quote]

I’m afraid you thought I was talking to you…ghey much? (you didn’t answer my question)

[quote]jamesBond wrote:
Dudes, the confederate flag represents many things before racism…[/quote]

Lol and what does it stand for ? Please don’t say unity and states, because in all those states there are plenty of black people and I don’t see them rocking it. Unless your saying black people don’t know about unity.

[quote]polo77j wrote:
jamesBond wrote:
Dudes, the confederate flag represents many things before racism…

so you just said that the confederate flag represents many things INCLUDING racism, but not racism in particular … nice debate skills[/quote]

I guess I’m a dumbass. There was a whole fucking culture that existed under the rebel flag.

On an unrelated note, what the fuck is wrong with some of the people in this forum? You’re so quick to rip anyone who isn’t 100% correct in what they say, that you forget that you’re a fucking moron yourself whose opinions shouldn’t be expressed at all.

Again dude, that would have been real bad if you hadn’t pointed out my error. Thanks a bunch!

[quote]conorh wrote:
BrownTrout wrote:
I hate when people equate the confederacy with white supremacy. Today the Civil War is remembered as little more than a conflict to liberate southern slaves, when in reality this was a side effect of the disavowing of the confederate states of America. The Civil War was about the institutionalization of the federal government and the Uniting of all the states under one supreme authority. I’m actually really afraid by how few people understand this.

I grew up on the Southern edge of a confederate border state and I used to tow this same party line. Now I’m not so sure. I definitely think that the Civil War was principally over state’s rights and limiting federal power, but in fact I think it was pretty clearly an issue of white supremacy and racism.

From CSA Vice President Stephens’ Cornerstone Speech:

(Jefferson’s) ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. … Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its cornerÃ?¢??stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery Ã?¢?? subordination to the superior race Ã?¢?? is his natural and normal condition.

That being said, in this day and age I don’t think it’s inherently racist to wear/display the Stars and Bars, but there’s probably significant correlation with racism. Of course, symbols mean different things to different folks and in different contexts. I probably wouldn’t wear a Stars and Bars buckle to an NAACP meeting.

My Dad has a lot of red bandannas, doesn’t make him a Blood, after all.[/quote]

Of course you realize that there were indeed northern slave states (5 of them I believe). And in addition Lincoln promised that the northern slave states would get to keep their slaves no matter what. He even promised that any southern state willing to rejoin the union at the time of the emancipation proclamation would get to keep theirs too (within 100 days). It’s all in the written down if you ever actually care to read what the proclamation actually said.

The northern states weren’t the “good guys” fighting for equality in the civil war. It was a power struggle plain and simple. The southern states were getting walked all over by the federal government with tariffs and other things. Lincoln was a racist, power hungry, politian and a tyrant, (suspended the writ of habeas corpus, imprisoned opposition for years without a trial),elected without a single electoral vote from a southern state, and by some experts estimation deliberately started the war (possibly to get re-elected).

Don’t construe this post as an “I voted for Davis” claim. I just reject the notion the civil war was about slavery and the north were the “good guys”. They just got to write the history books.

[quote]B rocK wrote:
polo77j wrote:
B rocK wrote:
polo77j wrote:
BrownTrout wrote:
I hate when people equate the confederacy with white supremacy. Today the Civil War is remembered as little more than a conflict to liberate southern slaves, when in reality this was a side effect of the disavowing of the confederate states of America. The Civil War was about the institutionalization of the federal government and the Uniting of all the states under one supreme authority. I’m actually really afraid by how few people understand this.

You should be more scared by how many people won’t understand what you just wrote (no sarcasm)

I’m afraid that he is so afraid. Hold me!

I’m afraid you just asked me to hold you…

I’m afraid you thought I was talking to you…ghey much? (you didn’t answer my question)[/quote]

I’m afraid you thought I thought you were talking to me … only when I’m feeling squirrely (and what was your question again?)

[quote]jamesBond wrote:
polo77j wrote:
jamesBond wrote:
Dudes, the confederate flag represents many things before racism…

so you just said that the confederate flag represents many things INCLUDING racism, but not racism in particular … nice debate skills

I guess I’m a dumbass. There was a whole fucking culture that existed under the rebel flag.

On an unrelated note, what the fuck is wrong with some of the people in this forum? You’re so quick to rip anyone who isn’t 100% correct in what they say, that you forget that you’re a fucking moron yourself whose opinions shouldn’t be expressed at all.

Again dude, that would have been real bad if you hadn’t pointed out my error. Thanks a bunch![/quote]

I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not so here are two responses to cover all bases:

You not being sarcastic: You’re welcome! That’s what I’m here for …

You being sarcastic : You’re welcome! That’s what I’m here for …

(ps, if we can’t bust each others chops about pointless shit for the fun of it, then damnit we’ve lost sight of what GAL is meant for)

[quote]polo77j wrote:

I’m afraid you thought I thought you were talking to me … only when I’m feeling squirrely (and what was your question again?)[/quote]

That is just a cheap attempt to get my to ask you for another hug.

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[quote]polo77j wrote:
jamesBond wrote:
polo77j wrote:
jamesBond wrote:
Dudes, the confederate flag represents many things before racism…

so you just said that the confederate flag represents many things INCLUDING racism, but not racism in particular … nice debate skills

I guess I’m a dumbass. There was a whole fucking culture that existed under the rebel flag.

On an unrelated note, what the fuck is wrong with some of the people in this forum? You’re so quick to rip anyone who isn’t 100% correct in what they say, that you forget that you’re a fucking moron yourself whose opinions shouldn’t be expressed at all.

Again dude, that would have been real bad if you hadn’t pointed out my error. Thanks a bunch!

I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not so here are two responses to cover all bases:

You not being sarcastic: You’re welcome! That’s what I’m here for …

You being sarcastic : You’re welcome! That’s what I’m here for …

(ps, if we can’t bust each others chops about pointless shit for the fun of it, then damnit we’ve lost sight of what GAL is meant for)[/quote]

I mean, I guess my post went from sarcastic to serious, then back to sarcastic

but anyways, it’s cool. It’s just I don’t want to called wrong/stupid when I know what I’m talking about.

[quote]polo77j wrote:
jamesBond wrote:
polo77j wrote:
jamesBond wrote:
Dudes, the confederate flag represents many things before racism…

so you just said that the confederate flag represents many things INCLUDING racism, but not racism in particular … nice debate skills

I guess I’m a dumbass. There was a whole fucking culture that existed under the rebel flag.

On an unrelated note, what the fuck is wrong with some of the people in this forum? You’re so quick to rip anyone who isn’t 100% correct in what they say, that you forget that you’re a fucking moron yourself whose opinions shouldn’t be expressed at all.

Again dude, that would have been real bad if you hadn’t pointed out my error. Thanks a bunch!

I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not so here are two responses to cover all bases:

You not being sarcastic: You’re welcome! That’s what I’m here for …

You being sarcastic : You’re welcome! That’s what I’m here for …

(ps, if we can’t bust each others chops about pointless shit for the fun of it, then damnit we’ve lost sight of what GAL is meant for)[/quote]

GAL is for serial talk only! Now Plz git back on topiK yo!

the north won! woot!

[quote]B rocK wrote:
polo77j wrote:

I’m afraid you thought I thought you were talking to me … only when I’m feeling squirrely (and what was your question again?)

That is just a cheap attempt to get my to ask you for another hug.

?[/quote]

Yes … you can read me like a book

[quote]Airtruth wrote:
I don’t quite think this is what Mlk was marching against.

Confederate flag doesn’t have to be racist, if Black Panther shirts aren’t.

I wonder how a black guy with a confederate flag shirt would do in a bar in Alabama?
[/quote]

prob alright

i think most people in the south look at it as a symbol of the south nowadays and not as a symbol of hatred as was mentioned earlier. meanings can change over time, ya know.

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
I don’t quite think this is what Mlk was marching against.

Confederate flag doesn’t have to be racist, if Black Panther shirts aren’t.

I wonder how a black guy with a confederate flag shirt would do in a bar in Alabama?

prob alright

i think most people in the south look at it as a symbol of the south nowadays and not as a symbol of hatred as was mentioned earlier. meanings can change over time, ya know.

[/quote]

Please. If none of you have been anywhere near the south, quit speaking for it. It is still a symbol of racism to some people even though it is clearly acknowledged that times change and the responses it gets now are nothing like it would have gotten even 20 years ago. Most people just don’t care much anymore because racism isn’t as blatant as it once was. There are still some skin head groups that use it in its racist sense in southern states so trying to act like this doesn’t exist anymore makes little sense.

I am more amazed that some people in this thread were completely unaware of this.

Did anyone else read through this whole thread only to find that there are no more pictures of said girl?