This is a fact now? Most of the fat kids who got teased when I was in high school quit being fat because of it. The finest girls in the class are the obese ones now…and all they got was compliments.
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And yes, there apparently have been fat people who tried to sue their doctor because he told them they were fat.[/quote]
I will say I got bullied some when I was a young little fatty for being a fatty. You know what I do now? Work my ass off in the weight room to be big with muscles and not with fat.
Bully is too much of a “buzz” word today because of all the media hype and kids taking it the wrong way, resulting in drastic actions (suicide, murder, etc.)
What the hell is up with our country? We are a bunch a thin skinned pussys! Just ignore it, or fight back back. Don’t whine to everyone, we don’t want to hear it.
She says she knows she is fat. Then if it bothers her, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!
This is a fact now? Most of the fat kids who got teased when I was in high school quit being fat because of it. The finest girls in the class are the obese ones now…and all they got was compliments.
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Noticed this as well. Lots of girls I remember from high school with naturally great bodies have put on quite a lot of “mass” six or so years later.
I can think of at least three dudes and one or two girls I knew pretty well in high school and middle school who got some shit for being “the chubby kid”. They’re all leaner than I am now!
What the hell is up with our country? We are a bunch a thin skinned pussys! Just ignore it, or fight back back. Don’t whine to everyone, we don’t want to hear it.
She says she knows she is fat. Then if it bothers her, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! [/quote]
Not to derail the thread… but curious on peoples’ thoughts about bullying with kids. All this above has generally dealt with adults. I can’t exactly tell my 9 year old to not be a pussy. I haven’t had to deal with it with my kids yet, but have seen it begin to occur in their class rooms with their friend (both bullying and being bullied by older kids). Any advice / thoughts is appreciated.
The average person today eats 30% more calories than they did a few decades ago. That plus a movement away from labour-intensive jobs has caused the problem today.
It certainly seems that way. Why do so many people have excuses for why they look the way they do and not accept responsibility? You don’t get fat over night yet everyone says o this or that problem. My grandma is 76 years old with a thyroid problem yet she wakes up every morning and walks on the treadmill for 30 minutes to an hour with two pound weights in her hands. She isn’t super skinny but is no where near fat.
The only time I have heard her complain is that she wishes her bloodwork was better. I talked her into making a few changes and the doctor said it is close to perfect as anyone at her age can get. She didn’t say damn this thyroid blah blah blah. More of ,Grandma needs to get healthy again, which she is now with small changes that made all the difference. If an old woman with a real thyroid problem can stay healthy I see no reason for a 30 year old woman with no real health problems to be obese other than just laziness. [/quote]
Good post. Tell your grandma good job from Tnation.
I was a small kid growing up. Bullying cost me several teeth. Bullying is absolutely a problem, I don’t understand DB’s comment that because it’s a fact of life, it’s not bad (obviously paraphrasing). Kids who were bigger than me threw me on the ground, and hit me in the face with a belt buckle. Violent bullying is bad, beyond a shadow of a doubt.
That being said…
I don’t see where there’s any exertion of force in the email to this newscaster. People larger than me imposed their own wills upon me. I consider the concept of imposing one’s own will on someone else without consent to be unethical, period. That makes it bad. I don’t see anything particularly unethical about expressing an opinion, and I certainly wouldn’t call it bullying.
What the hell is up with our country? We are a bunch a thin skinned pussys! Just ignore it, or fight back back. Don’t whine to everyone, we don’t want to hear it.
She says she knows she is fat. Then if it bothers her, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! [/quote]
Not to derail the thread… but curious on peoples’ thoughts about bullying with kids. All this above has generally dealt with adults. I can’t exactly tell my 9 year old to not be a pussy. I haven’t had to deal with it with my kids yet, but have seen it begin to occur in their class rooms with their friend (both bullying and being bullied by older kids). Any advice / thoughts is appreciated. [/quote]
Advice? Teach your kids to lighten up and not take life so seriously. If they are actually doing anything at all in life, they will attract haters. Better to EXPECT IT and be ready for it than to be lulled into some fantasy world where you raise them to believe they are OWED outward respect in all situations.
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
I was a small kid growing up. Bullying cost me several teeth. Bullying is absolutely a problem, I don’t understand DB’s comment that because it’s a fact of life, it’s not bad (obviously paraphrasing). Kids who were bigger than me threw me on the ground, and hit me in the face with a belt buckle. Violent bullying is bad, beyond a shadow of a doubt.
That being said…
I don’t see where there’s any exertion of force in the email to this newscaster. People larger than me imposed their own wills upon me. I consider the concept of imposing one’s own will on someone else without consent to be unethical, period. That makes it bad. I don’t see anything particularly unethical about expressing an opinion, and I certainly wouldn’t call it bullying.[/quote]
I don’t think everyone here is relating “bullying” directly with “getting beat up”.
To me, true bullying would be putting a kids physical or true mental health at risk. Minor negative criticism is a fact of life…so kids calling some kid rot-crotch because he forgets to wash in certain places may just lead to him taking a fucking bath.
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
I was a small kid growing up. Bullying cost me several teeth. Bullying is absolutely a problem, I don’t understand DB’s comment that because it’s a fact of life, it’s not bad (obviously paraphrasing). Kids who were bigger than me threw me on the ground, and hit me in the face with a belt buckle. Violent bullying is bad, beyond a shadow of a doubt.
That being said…
I don’t see where there’s any exertion of force in the email to this newscaster. People larger than me imposed their own wills upon me. I consider the concept of imposing one’s own will on someone else without consent to be unethical, period. That makes it bad. I don’t see anything particularly unethical about expressing an opinion, and I certainly wouldn’t call it bullying.[/quote]
I’d just call that violence and battery. And that should be dealt with as such.
I watched the vid and don’t see the point of the e-mail. Well, I do but it wasn’t that a somewhat overweight local news anchor sets a bad example for aspiring news announcers. No teenage girl is going to knuckle down, chow down and deliberately fatten up for a career in local news reporting.
Whoever sent that e-mail was looking for a reaction and I don’t think they should’ve given it so much publicity.
[quote]roybot wrote:
I watched the vid and don’t see the point of the e-mail. Well, I do but it wasn’t that a somewhat overweight local news anchor sets a bad example for aspiring news announcers. No teenage girl is going to knuckle down, chow down and deliberately fatten up for a career in local news reporting.
Whoever sent that e-mail was looking for a reaction and I don’t think they should’ve given it so much publicity.
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You don’t remember when all of the cool kids died their hair gray and combed it to look just like Geraldo Rivera’s??!!
What the hell is up with our country? We are a bunch a thin skinned pussys! Just ignore it, or fight back back. Don’t whine to everyone, we don’t want to hear it.
She says she knows she is fat. Then if it bothers her, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! [/quote]
Not to derail the thread… but curious on peoples’ thoughts about bullying with kids. All this above has generally dealt with adults. I can’t exactly tell my 9 year old to not be a pussy. I haven’t had to deal with it with my kids yet, but have seen it begin to occur in their class rooms with their friend (both bullying and being bullied by older kids). Any advice / thoughts is appreciated. [/quote]
Advice? Teach your kids to lighten up and not take life so seriously. If they are actually doing anything at all in life, they will attract haters. Better to EXPECT IT and be ready for it than to be lulled into some fantasy world where you raise them to believe they are OWED outward respect in all situations.[/quote]
My kids have not directly experienced it, but to your point, it’ll come. They’re both smart, well behaved and are starting to excel in sports vs. their peers. I guess my question should have been at what point is it appropriate to tell them to fight back. Adults are different. I’m not a fan of parents encouraging a fight, but every once in awhile you have to lay the smack down. But at 9, I’m kinda leary…
This is a fact now? Most of the fat kids who got teased when I was in high school quit being fat because of it. The finest girls in the class are the obese ones now…and all they got was compliments.
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Noticed this as well. Lots of girls I remember from high school with naturally great bodies have put on quite a lot of “mass” six or so years later.
I can think of at least three dudes and one or two girls I knew pretty well in high school and middle school who got some shit for being “the chubby kid”. They’re all leaner than I am now![/quote]
Dude, it goes in order from “ex-football players who quit playing after college”, “ex-hawt high school cool girl cliques”, and “computer geeks who play WOW all day”.
I have seen of those ex-football athletes get up to the 400’s after being in shape all through college. ESPN did a full article on it once. Many ex-NFL greats are now obese.
[quote]roybot wrote:
I watched the vid and don’t see the point of the e-mail. Well, I do but it wasn’t that a somewhat overweight local news anchor sets a bad example for aspiring news announcers. No teenage girl is going to knuckle down, chow down and deliberately fatten up for a career in local news reporting.
Whoever sent that e-mail was looking for a reaction and I don’t think they should’ve given it so much publicity.
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You don’t remember when all of the cool kids died their hair gray and combed it to look just like Geraldo Rivera’s??!![/quote]
The irony is that Rivera never went gray… daH-dAH-DAAH!
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
I was a small kid growing up. Bullying cost me several teeth. Bullying is absolutely a problem, I don’t understand DB’s comment that because it’s a fact of life, it’s not bad (obviously paraphrasing). Kids who were bigger than me threw me on the ground, and hit me in the face with a belt buckle. Violent bullying is bad, beyond a shadow of a doubt.
That being said…
I don’t see where there’s any exertion of force in the email to this newscaster. People larger than me imposed their own wills upon me. I consider the concept of imposing one’s own will on someone else without consent to be unethical, period. That makes it bad. I don’t see anything particularly unethical about expressing an opinion, and I certainly wouldn’t call it bullying.[/quote]
I’d just call that violence and battery. And that should be dealt with as such.[/quote]
I could have elaborated more. I was definitely bullied, I just described an incident that had one of the more lasting effects. That incident was preceded, and followed by, years of physical and mental abuse I took from classmates. I grew up without having a lot of friends, I was the nerdy kid that got picked on, I was socially inept, etc. I pretty much took every form of bullying you can think of. Minor stuff like getting pushed into walls, getting made fun of for clothes I wore, haircut, size, being nerdy, whatever. I call most of that ‘bullying’. I call the tooth breaking stuff ‘bullying that went too far’. I guess you could call it violence and battery. We were 11 years old. Most people would describe the things I went through in general as being bullied.
My whole point though was that the newscaster wasn’t hurt. Nobody forced her to do anything, nobody threatened her. Threats and abuse have a lot more to do with bullying than statements of fact about a personal appearance, coupled with a judgement on the concept of role models. Nobody said “lose the weight or I’m going to push you into a trash can”. Ya know?