[quote]Massif wrote:
Kuz, I would bet that if you asked everyone of those guys who put being out of shape down to old, what they did over the season break, everyone of them sat on their ass and did no off season training.
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Massif, you are spot on. That’s absolutely the case and I have to stifle a chuckle when I hear people use the age excuse when it has more to do with the fact that they are not doing a damn thing outside of that soccer game once a week and maybe hitting the gym a few times a week for some cardio.
I think the general feeling on the thread would be as follows:
Some issues related to joint health and reaction time are related to the aging process.
Age appears to have an increased effect on recovery ability.
Age as an overall excuse is fairly flimsy (which was my gut feeling in starting the thread anyway).
Lack of use seems to be the biggest culprit in terms of any diminished performance, although consistent dedication can produce solid gains, even if you are as old as ZEB. lol Just kidding with ya big guy! But I like ZEB’s case because it shows that I(at the ripe old age of 32) still can enjoy many fruitful years of progress.
Nice to know I am only at my peak right now if I allow myself to be that way. Good discussion overall (and no name calling… very refreshing).
[quote]Kuz wrote:
I think the general feeling on the thread would be as follows:
Some issues related to joint health and reaction time are related to the aging process.
Age appears to have an increased effect on recovery ability.
Age as an overall excuse is fairly flimsy (which was my gut feeling in starting the thread anyway).
Lack of use seems to be the biggest culprit in terms of any diminished performance, although consistent dedication can produce solid gains, even if you are as old as ZEB. lol Just kidding with ya big guy! But I like ZEB’s case because it shows that I(at the ripe old age of 32) still can enjoy many fruitful years of progress.
Nice to know I am only at my peak right now if I allow myself to be that way. Good discussion overall (and no name calling… very refreshing).[/quote]
I think there are some other factors to it. I think motivation is a big one. When you are younger you work out for a variety of reasons, whether it be for sport, chicks, or are just plain angry at enerything and workout to keep out of jail. As you get older, these motivations become less important to you, and you have to find new motivation to get to the gym.
Many people find that motivation in themselves, or workout out for family oriented reasons. Those that don’t, however, usually talk about losing the “drive” to workout. Their old goals aren’t important to them any more, and they haven’t found new reasons to put the effort in.
[quote]Kuz wrote:
I think the general feeling on the thread would be as follows:
Some issues related to joint health and reaction time are related to the aging process.
Age appears to have an increased effect on recovery ability.
Age as an overall excuse is fairly flimsy (which was my gut feeling in starting the thread anyway).
Lack of use seems to be the biggest culprit in terms of any diminished performance, although consistent dedication can produce solid gains, even if you are as old as ZEB. lol Just kidding with ya big guy! But I like ZEB’s case because it shows that I(at the ripe old age of 32) still can enjoy many fruitful years of progress.
Nice to know I am only at my peak right now if I allow myself to be that way. Good discussion overall (and no name calling… very refreshing).[/quote]
It is nice to have a conversation without the usual Internet courage thrown in!
HEY! WHAT DO YOU MEAN “even if you are as old as Zeb.” You dirty rotten %#&#@#.
I think there are some other factors to it. I think motivation is a big one. When you are younger you work out for a variety of reasons, whether it be for sport, chicks, or are just plain angry at enerything and workout to keep out of jail. As you get older, these motivations become less important to you, and you have to find new motivation to get to the gym.
Many people find that motivation in themselves, or workout out for family oriented reasons. Those that don’t, however, usually talk about losing the “drive” to workout. Their old goals aren’t important to them any more, and they haven’t found new reasons to put the effort in.[/quote]
Very good point!
When I was 25 I simply wanted to gain muscle in order to impress the chics and intimidate other young males (I was a bouncer).
24 years later I am more interested in training for health purposes. I also want to stay at my peak for as long as possible in order to train with my son. This means keeping the muscle that I gained, eating properly etc.
If you can shift your focus through the years without losing sight of the target you can look good and do some amazing things for a long long time.
I work in a very active job and I workout to make it easier for me to keep up with the younger guys that and my experience make ke a more valuable commodity.That and I want to live for ever