[quote]JustTheFacts wrote:
EU poll: Israel ‘biggest threat’ to world peace
U.S. beats out ‘axis of evil’ in causing global instability
Over half of Europeans think Israel poses the “biggest threat to world peace,” according to a controversial poll commissioned by the European Commission.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35383
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Europeans are anti-Semitic. Weren’t you paying attention?
I won’t complain if Israel strikes Iran’s nuclear facilities.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
JTF,
Jews, real Jews, were handed a huge responsibility when Moses handed them the 10 Commandments. It wasn’t to just passively obey the Commandments but to go out and civilise the world. Jesus is the final manifestation of the Jewish purpose, to change humanity.
Zionists believe that this change can be manifest through violence. Most Jews disagree.
The goal of all judeo-christians should be to make the world a better place, by changing humans from beasts into rational men.[/quote]
Winston Churchill said it best…
[i]"The conflict between good and evil which proceeds unceasingly in the breast of man nowhere reaches such intensity as in the Jewish race. The dual nature of mankind is nowhere more strongly or more terribly exemplified…
And it may well be that this same astounding race may at the present moment be in the actual process of producing another system of morals and philosophy, as malevolent as Christianity was benevolent, which, if not arrested, would shatter irretrievably all that Christianity has rendered possible. It would almost seem as if the gospel of Christ and the gospel of Antichrist were destined to originate among the same people; and that this mystic and mysterious race had been chosen for the supreme manifestations, both of the divine and the diabolical."[/i]
http://www.codoh.com/zionweb/zionchurch.html
Of course Henry Ford warned back in 1920 that Bolshevism was coming to America – it showed up in a repackaged form called neoconservatism…
[i]"It is a well-established fact that many of the early luminaries of neoconservatism (most famously Irving Kristol [Bill Kristol’s father] in the 1940’s, a more recent famous example being David Horowitz) came from Marxist backgrounds, and that neoconservatism (like Marxism itself) began and continues to be largely a phenomenon of Jewish intellectualism.
In the early part of the 20th century, Marxism attracted a disproportionate pool of Jewish recruits for a number of obvious reasons. There are a number of complex psychological and social reasons for the attraction, all of which largely stem from the fact that Marxist internationalism is an ideology which by its very nature finds disciples among a rootless, anti-religious urban intelligentsia."[/i]
http://www.originaldissent.com/shpak051502.html
I think the question remains, are they really Jews?
[quote]JustTheFacts wrote:
JeffR wrote:
dustin,
Perhaps you’ve noticed that many other Governments (including those hostile to taking out saddam) are very worried about iran.
If your brain freezes up at the mention of the word “Bush,” the other Governments’ concerns should at least stimulate some curiosity.
Or, when you see the IAEA pointing out continuing worry that the iranians are lying about their nuclear intentions, that should get your attention. I don’t think anyone could reasonably suggest that Bush has any sway with the IAEA.
I think I can speak for many on here when I say that we don’t object to critical analysis. We don’t even object to you offering opinions that differ from ours. We DO object to you labeling anything you find uncomfortable and contrary to your narrow world-view as “propaganda.”
JeffR
Don’t you ever get tired of being completely wrong?
EU poll: Israel ‘biggest threat’ to world peace
U.S. beats out ‘axis of evil’ in causing global instability
Over half of Europeans think Israel poses the “biggest threat to world peace,” according to a controversial poll commissioned by the European Commission.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35383
US Iran report branded dishonest
The UN nuclear watchdog has protested to the US government over a report on Iran’s nuclear programme, calling it “erroneous” and “misleading”.
In a leaked letter, the IAEA said a congressional report contained serious distortions of the agency’s own findings on Iran’s nuclear activity…
Israel considering strike on Iran despite US intelligence report
Senior Israeli officials warned today they were still considering the option of a military strike against Iran, despite a fresh US intelligence report that concluded Tehran was no longer developing nuclear weapons.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,331495122-111322,00.html
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justthefacts,
I don’t care for you. I find it difficult to respond to you. Your anti-semitic agenda sickens me.
My response to you is: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080225/ap_on_re_eu/nuclear_iran
Of course, I’d already posted this.
In summary, I’d be fine if you never addressed me. In fact, I usually scroll right past your posts. It was only by chance that I saw this post. If I happen to not respond to you, it’s not because I think you are clever. It’s because you are an abomination.
JeffR
[quote]Sloth wrote:
I won’t complain if Israel strikes Iran’s nuclear facilities. [/quote]
I know you/others won’t – which is why we’re in this never-ending cycle of wars for Jewish interests…
Jewish Advocates of Pre-Emptive War with Iran Come Under Increasing Criticism
An array of Jewish organizations are in the forefront of promoting pre-emptive action against Iran and are coming under increasing criticism by other voices in the Jewish community.
[quote]JeffR wrote:
justthefacts,
I don’t care for you. I find it difficult to respond to you. Your anti-semitic agenda sickens me.
My response to you is:
Of course, I’d already posted this.
In summary, I’d be fine if you never addressed me. In fact, I usually scroll right past your posts. It was only by chance that I saw this post. If I happen to not respond to you, it’s not because I think you are clever. It’s because you are an abomination.
JeffR
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Since when are facts anti-Semitism?
I’m sorry if the truth is uncomfortable, but we need to quit pussyfooting around the fact that this current and escalating “war on terror” is completely driven by Jewish interests.
Your just an Armageddonite driven by their propaganda…
Rapture Ready: The Unauthorized Christians United for Israel Tour
[quote]JustTheFacts wrote:
Sloth wrote:
I won’t complain if Israel strikes Iran’s nuclear facilities.
I know you/others won’t – which is why we’re in this never-ending cycle of wars for Jewish interests…
Jewish Advocates of Pre-Emptive War with Iran Come Under Increasing Criticism
An array of Jewish organizations are in the forefront of promoting pre-emptive action against Iran and are coming under increasing criticism by other voices in the Jewish community.
Article Details [/quote]
I don’t care if Israel stikes Iran. But, I care if we do. Iran has already committed itself to a proxy war against Israel, and continues it’s rather Day of Doom type of rhetoric. A strike against Iran would be a completely logical move for Israel. On the otherhand, I’ve already stated my non-interventionist beliefs here on this forum. US attack on Iran? No thanks. Israeli attack against Iran? I won’t complain, they’re already in a mutual conflict.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
I don’t care if Israel stikes Iran. But, I care if we do. Iran has already committed itself to a proxy war against Israel, and continues it’s rather Day of Doom type of rhetoric. A strike against Iran would be a completely logical move for Israel. On the otherhand, I’ve already stated my non-interventionist beliefs here on this forum. US attack on Iran? No thanks. Israeli attack against Iran? I won’t complain, they’re already in a mutual conflict.[/quote]
For one thing, Iran has never said it wanted to “wipe Israel off the map” in a literal sense, as in “blow it up”.
Second, your delusional if you don’t think an Israeli war with Iran wouldn’t involve the US… then Russia, then… I know, I’d just be a “cakewalk”.
[quote]JustTheFacts wrote:
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For one thing, Iran has never said it wanted to “wipe Israel off the map” in a literal sense, as in “blow it up”.
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They just want to erase it from the pages of history. Very peaceful like.
[quote]JustTheFacts wrote:
Sloth wrote:
I don’t care if Israel stikes Iran. But, I care if we do. Iran has already committed itself to a proxy war against Israel, and continues it’s rather Day of Doom type of rhetoric. A strike against Iran would be a completely logical move for Israel. On the otherhand, I’ve already stated my non-interventionist beliefs here on this forum. US attack on Iran? No thanks. Israeli attack against Iran? I won’t complain, they’re already in a mutual conflict.
For one thing, Iran has never said it wanted to “wipe Israel off the map” in a literal sense, as in “blow it up”.
Second, your delusional if you don’t think an Israeli war with Iran wouldn’t involve the US… then Russia, then… I know, I’d just be a “cakewalk”.
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Uh, I didn’t quote anything specific. It’s the totality of their rhetoric that is “Day of Doomish.” Not to mention their present proxy war against Israel.
I honestly don’t care who it would involve, as long as…yet, once again JTF…we stayed out it. My reccomendation for others would be, to stay out of it.
[quote]JustTheFacts wrote:
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Since when are facts anti-Semitism?
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When the are JustTheFacts.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
I don’t care if Israel stikes Iran. But, I care if we do. Iran has already committed itself to a proxy war against Israel, and continues it’s rather Day of Doom type of rhetoric. A strike against Iran would be a completely logical move for Israel. On the otherhand, I’ve already stated my non-interventionist beliefs here on this forum. US attack on Iran? No thanks. Israeli attack against Iran? I won’t complain, they’re already in a mutual conflict.[/quote]
That’s an interesting position. After all, Iran has been arming resistance groups (which the US and UK usually label terrorists), and that goes against the best interests of Israel’s expansionist agenda. So, yeah, It would be logical.
Thing is, Israelis aren’t morons and their media are nothing like the ones in the US. People ask questions in Israel and do not just trust the leaders when they make unverified claims. For those reasons, I don’t think Israel will attack Iran. They know that it would create a lot of unnecessary trouble for them. I don’t think they like the idea of having a nuclear Iran around, but the cost of war (i.e: backlash) is too high for the people of Israel.
They have about a million more reasons to fear a strike on their land than you lot in the US do, and yet, didn’t make a move on Iran. The latter is a strong country which, can’t hold a candle to T’sahal or the American military, but can do some very serious damage. Not to mention that everyone else will be on their Israel’s back if they did attack Tehran (Iraqis, Lebanese, Palestinians, etc.)
Mark my words; If Iran is ever attacked, Israel will get the US to do their dirty work. Don’t doubt for a second that they have the means necessary to coerce you into that.
[quote]lixy wrote:
… Israel’s expansionist agenda. …[/quote]
Is that why they keep withdrawing?
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
lixy wrote:
… Israel’s expansionist agenda. …
Is that why they keep withdrawing?[/quote]
I’m referring to the grand scheme here.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
lixy wrote:
… Israel’s expansionist agenda. …
Is that why they keep withdrawing?
I’m referring to the grand scheme here.[/quote]
The destruction of Israel?
[quote]lixy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
lixy wrote:
… Israel’s expansionist agenda. …
Is that why they keep withdrawing?
I’m referring to the grand scheme here.[/quote]
As am I. They are pulling back from land they took. They took that land originally becaus etheir enemies were using it to launch attacks against them.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
lixy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
lixy wrote:
… Israel’s expansionist agenda. …
Is that why they keep withdrawing?
I’m referring to the grand scheme here.
As am I. They are pulling back from land they took. They took that land originally becaus etheir enemies were using it to launch attacks against them.[/quote]
That is one of my favorite pictures!!!
It can’t be posted enough!!!
JeffR
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Uh, I didn’t quote anything specific. It’s the totality of their rhetoric that is “Day of Doomish.” Not to mention their present proxy war against Israel.
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The “totality of Iran’s rhetoric” is filtered through the Middle East Media Research Institute…
MEMRI is propaganda machine, expert says
The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) provides daily English translations of film and print media stories originating in Arabic, Iranian and Turkish media. It also furnishes original analysis of cultural, political and religious trends in the Middle East.
It sends its daily postings to every news outlet in the United States and Europe, in addition to politicians and cultural leaders.
And it’s free, which makes it a Godsend for journalists, editors and policy analysts.
But according to its critics, it is also a dangerous, highly sophisticated propaganda operation, disseminating hate and disinformation on an unprecedented worldwide basis.
“They use the same sort of propaganda techniques as the Nazis,” Professor Norman G. Finkelstein, a well-known scholar on Israel/Palestine, told InFocus. “They take things out of context in order to do personal and political harm to people they don’t like…”
It was founded in 1998 by Yigal Carmon, a former colonel in the Israel Defense Forces (Intelligence Branch) from 1968 until 1988, acting head of civil administration in the West Bank from 1977 to 1982; and Israeli-born Meyrav Wurmser, an extreme rightwing neoconservative now affiliated with the Hudson Institute.
Meyrav is married to David Wurmser, at one time an American Enterprise Institute “scholar” and then a State Department apparatchik under John Bolton.
Both participated in the collective writing of “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm,” a seminal 1996 neocon document that advocated an end to negotiations with the Palestinians and permanent war against the Arab world.
They also worked with Douglas Feith, Elliot Abrams, Richard Perle and other rightwing ideologues who promoted and embellished the fiction that Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11…
http://www.infocusnews.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15069&Itemid=135
Thats just it, you don’t care if Israel bombs Iran yet IT WILL involve the US by proxy – meaning you should care quite a bit.
[quote]JeffR wrote:
That is one of my favorite pictures!!!
It can’t be posted enough!!!
JeffR
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Why, because it shows their arrogance and stupidity?
How about a zoomed up version…
[i]TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - The president of Iran again lashed out at Israel on Friday and said it was “heading toward annihilation,” just days after Tehran raised fears about its nuclear activities by saying it successfully enriched uranium for the first time.
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called Israel a “permanent threat” to the Middle East that will “soon” be liberated. He also appeared to again question whether the Holocaust really happened.
“Like it or not, the Zionist regime is heading toward annihilation,” Ahmadinejad said at the opening of a conference in support of the Palestinians. “The Zionist regime is a rotten, dried tree that will be eliminated by one storm.”
Ahmadinejad provoked a world outcry in October when he said Israel should be “wiped off the map.”
On Friday, he repeated his previous line on the Holocaust, saying: “If such a disaster is true, why should the people of this region pay the price? Why does the Palestinian nation have to be suppressed and have its land occupied?”
The land of Palestine, he said, referring to the British mandated territory that includes all of Israel, Gaza and the West Bank, “will be freed soon.”[/i]
Yeah, Day of Doom rhetoric.
