[quote]Sikkario wrote:
I agree, the US installed dictator of Saddam, serves as a strong example of what happens when the USA interferes in the ME.
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The US did not install Saddam. We took his ass out.
[quote]Sikkario wrote:
I ask you the same question. At least I’m not trying to kill people.[/quote]
Kill people, really? This is an internet bodybuilding forum, not the freaking Pentagon. How many divisions does Zap control anyhow?
[quote]Chushin wrote:
More info for your “paper”:
The Iranian Penal Code is very specific about the manner of execution and types of stones which should be used. Article 102 states that men will be buried up to their waists and women up to their breasts for the purpose of execution by stoning. Article 104 states, with reference to the penalty for adultery, that the stones used should â¿¿not be large enough to kill the person by one or two strikes, nor should they be so small that they could not be defined as stonesâ¿¿.
http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-2004/december/iran_executions_191204.shtml [/quote]"
You can find video of this on the internet. I’m not going to post a link, find it yourself. Google video keyword “Islamic stoning” to see what kind of therapy these people administer.
Great thread!
Its actually pretty close to the ideal time for a Spring campaign in Iran, though conquering Venezuela would be easier.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Chushin wrote:
More info for your “paper”:
The Iranian Penal Code is very specific about the manner of execution and types of stones which should be used. Article 102 states that men will be buried up to their waists and women up to their breasts for the purpose of execution by stoning. Article 104 states, with reference to the penalty for adultery, that the stones used should â¿¿not be large enough to kill the person by one or two strikes, nor should they be so small that they could not be defined as stonesâ¿¿.
http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-2004/december/iran_executions_191204.shtml
from the link:
[i]Leyla was reportedly sentenced to death on charges of “acts contrary to chastity” by controlling a brothel, having intercourse with blood relatives and giving birth to an illegitimate child. She is to be flogged before she is executed. She had apparently â¿¿confessedâ¿¿ to the charges.
Leyla was forced into prostitution by her mother when she was eight years old, according to the 28 November report, and was raped repeatedly thereafter. She gave birth to her first child when she was nine, and was sentenced to 100 lashes for prostitution at around the same time. At the age of 12, her family sold her to an Afghan man to become his â¿¿temporary wifeâ¿¿.
His mother became her new pimp, â¿¿selling her body without her consentâ¿¿. At the age of 14 she became pregnant again, and received a further 100 lashes, after which she was moved to a maternity ward to give birth to twins. After this “temporary marriage”, her family sold her again, to a 55-year-old man, married with two children, who had Leylaâ¿¿s customers come to his house
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Very “progressive”.
Truly sounds like a paradise.
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Yeah, Satan’s paradise. We need to liberate these people ASAP, mostly from Islam. It appears that Islam is an ABSENCE of morality. Jeeeezzzz…that poor kid.
There is something very unsettling about how Iran is becoming a projected paradise and exemplar for society for left-wingers.
Not that surprising really - but unsettling.
Such are the hypocrisies - and inherent dangers - of “progressivism”.
I’m not left-wing.
[quote]Sikkario wrote:
I’m not left-wing.[/quote]
Go away.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
S7ALK3R wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Sikkario wrote:
I agree that we see Iran differently. I don’t think you could call the knuckle head in power right now a stable person. I don’t think the country is stable. You don’t give a 2 year old kid a razor blade. I think the same common sense should apply to rogue states.
Ahlmenijad, hasn’t killed anyone. …
What about the homosexuals they hang from construction equipment?
What about the terrorists he trains and arms in Iraq?
You are just plain wrong on so many counts. Your paper will be hard to write if you use reality instead of Iranian propaganda.
I suppose that he never even watched Iranian news…
Seriously?
Where the fuck are these idiots coming from?[/quote]
Im asking again:
About executing for drugs and homosexual - dont you think, that one society/sountry have the RIGHT to decide what their laws will be?
And there was a link about the execution for homosexual - that was a statistic for 1979-1990.
18 years…till now?
[quote]S7ALK3R wrote:
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Im asking again:
About executing for drugs and homosexual - dont you think, that one society/sountry have the RIGHT to decide what their laws will be?
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Yes. If Iran was a democracy then perhaps their actions would be less odious than they are now.
Since the ruling mullahs won’t let any moderates run for high ranking offices you cannot make a clam that their government represents the will of the people.
The link was from a 2005 execution. One is too many.
Fuck Iran, those cruel pussies. i just watched the video of the man being stoned to death and had to shut it off. Someone needs to help these people.
[quote]S7ALK3R wrote:
Im asking again:
About executing for drugs and homosexual - dont you think, that one society/sountry have the RIGHT to decide what their laws will be? [/quote]
Are you barking mad?
There is little room in US foreign policy jargon about other countries having the “RIGHT” to decide on anything or any of that other “sovereignty” non-sense. The US of A are sole rulers of the Known Universe, and anyone who doesn’t like it suffers the consequences.
Can you imagine the reaction of Washington if China or Russia had bases in Mexico?
What we are witnessing here is nothing new. In order to justify bombing people on a massive scale, you must first demonize them.
Forget that Saudi Arabia is a 1000 years behind Iran on Human Rights. Forget that the Al-Sauds have remained in power largely because of the support from the US and UK. Forget that Iraq attacked Iran with the full blessing of Washington. Forget that the Islamic Revolution was a direct consequence of the brutality and tyranny of the Shah and his CIA backers. Forget that Tehran has repeatedly proposed sit-downs and dialogs.
None of that matters!
What matters is dehumanizing the Iranians so that when their bodies are shredded by USAF bombs live on TV, the American population doesn’t revolt. Luckily, and despite the this board’s warmongers best efforts, the Idiot in Chief dilapidated his capital long ago.
The Iranian hang homosexuals. There’s no getting around that. But that’s their law. You don’t see me spitting in Singapore or smoking a joint in Washington. And if an American goes to Iran, they don’t expect him to hit on people in the streets. The Iranian justice system has due process, and their laws are clearly codified. Contrast with Bush’s pals in Saudi Arabia (or any other Arab monarchy for that matter) whose judicial is arbitrary and expeditive. Trust me on that one, I’ve been there…
So Zap, should you engage in male-male sodomy in Iran, you’d better keep it behind closed doors and make sure nobody sees you frenching your boyfriend.
[quote]lixy wrote:
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So Zap, should you engage in male-male sodomy in Iran, you’d better keep it behind closed doors and make sure nobody sees you frenching your boyfriend.[/quote]
Spare us your fantasies.
And we know, all bad things in the world and expecially in Islamic countries are America’s fault.
Just a parentheses to add that the World Health Organization still listed homosexuality as a mental illness in 1991.
And Zap Brannigan’s shorts are so gay!
[quote]lixy wrote:
S7ALK3R wrote:
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The Iranian hang homosexuals. There’s no getting around that. But that’s their law. You don’t see me spitting in Singapore or smoking a joint in Washington. And if an American goes to Iran, they don’t expect him to hit on people in the streets. The Iranian justice system has due process…
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Did I just read what I thought I read?
Is the punishment for expectoration in Singapore being hanged from a construction crane?
I know that in Washington, if you smoke weed, you may get stoned, but will you be stoned?
To compare hanging as a punishment for behavior, to whatever, anywhere, takes the kind of moral blindness only a sociopath can possess. Is it really all the same?
As for due process in Iran, what’s the joke? “We hang him and then give him a fair trial?”
[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
Did I just read what I thought I read? [/quote]
You’re talking to me now?
They have something called “caning”.
There are good chances of you getting ass-raped in jail.
Criticizing Iran for hanging homosexuals is fine. Just like I criticize the US or Sweden for jailing stoners.
What you won’t see me do - ever! - is call for bombing a country because their laws are not like mine.
There is due process in Iran. Not something particularly common in Saudi Arabia.
The reason for bombing them, if there is a case to be made, is the sort of apocalyptic rhetoric coming out of the Iranian regim. Ahmedinejad has stated on several occasions that, in order for the 12th Imam (the Mahdi), to return and usher in his era of peace and prosperity, the apocalypse needed to be unleashed.
They certainly sponsor terror. They’ve given aid to Al-Qaeda, they started Hizb’allah, and I believe they’re sponsoring Hamas now as well. It’s unclear whether they’re doing this out of pure Jew hatred or a desire to gain popularity in the Islamic world over and above the house of Saud, as they did in the 80s. They certainly don’t like Sunni hegemony.
The question that needs to be answered is, “Is the Iranian regime rational?” I’m leaning towards, “yes.” If that’s the case, they will continue to engage in proxy wars of low-intensity. If they decide to use one of their proxies to unleash a nuclear weapon, all bets are off.
Then again, maybe they’re not rational:
[quote]lixy wrote:
Can you imagine the reaction of Washington if China or Russia had bases in Mexico?
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What the hell do you think Cuba is genius? And you dare attack the US for trying to overthrow their govt, while standing up for Iran’s proxy pussies to attack our troops in Iraq?
Nice double standard.