Is Homosexuality Politically Correct

[makkun]

Let’s just clarify - the OP is the guy who also started a thread about him planning to shag a 16 year old without using a condom, in much the same way engaging in risk behaviours he’s projecting on LGBT people:

'[…]A girl I know is on the pill and she wants to have sex with me (I got the text messages to prove it), I wanna do her raw, but she want me to suit up, but from past experiences, when I fumbling with a rubber I lose my erection and plus it just feel better when you go in raw.

Btw, Ive never had an STD and have been tested and I am 100% clean.

And the girl is 16, thats aoc in MI.’

http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sex_girls_pictures_hot_pics_photo_women/what_do_you_prefer?pageNo=0#bottom

Clip11 is a troll and hasn’t contributed much else to this site so far than starting racist, misogynist and homophobic (in the discriminatory sense, not the fear non-sense) threads. Trolls like him shouldn’t be fed - engaging with them only lowers the quality of the discussion and the site in general.

Makkun

[jsbrook]

[quote]makkun wrote:
Let’s just clarify - the OP is the guy who also started a thread about him planning to shag a 16 year old without using a condom, in much the same way engaging in risk behaviours he’s projecting on LGBT people:

'[…]A girl I know is on the pill and she wants to have sex with me (I got the text messages to prove it), I wanna do her raw, but she want me to suit up, but from past experiences, when I fumbling with a rubber I lose my erection and plus it just feel better when you go in raw.

Btw, Ive never had an STD and have been tested and I am 100% clean.

And the girl is 16, thats aoc in MI.’

http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sex_girls_pictures_hot_pics_photo_women/what_do_you_prefer?pageNo=0#bottom

Clip11 is a troll and hasn’t contributed much else to this site so far than starting racist, misogynist and homophobic (in the discriminatory sense, not the fear non-sense) threads. Trolls like him shouldn’t be fed - engaging with them only lowers the quality of the discussion and the site in general.

Makkun[/quote]

Thanks for the clarification. I didn’t realize that. OP, I reiterate that you’re an idiot. I feel bad for the minors you convince to have unprotected sex and will likely infect with some STD someday. AIDS is not the only STD.

[Cronk]

[quote]clip11 wrote:
Why is it that you can praise gayness all day long, say how wonderful homosexuals are, say that we need to look pass who they choose to sleep with and see who they are on the inside and all that bullshit and you can be praised and have the world cheer you on, but the moment you spaek out against it you are censorsed, shut up and told how much of a bigot you are?[/quote]

Well, one of those actions involves degrading a population of people based upon a feature of them that does not affect you, and the other action involves accepting and loving all people regardless of their sexual preferences. You seriously can’t see why one would be looked down upon and the other celebrated?

And nobody says gays are “the greatest thing since sliced bread”, just that they are equal to the rest of us and deserve equal treatment. If you don’t agree with that, I’d love to hear why. I could use a laugh.

[clip11]

[quote]makkun wrote:
Let’s just clarify - the OP is the guy who also started a thread about him planning to shag a 16 year old without using a condom, in much the same way engaging in risk behaviours he’s projecting on LGBT people:

'[…]A girl I know is on the pill and she wants to have sex with me (I got the text messages to prove it), I wanna do her raw, but she want me to suit up, but from past experiences, when I fumbling with a rubber I lose my erection and plus it just feel better when you go in raw.

Btw, Ive never had an STD and have been tested and I am 100% clean.

And the girl is 16, thats aoc in MI.’

http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sex_girls_pictures_hot_pics_photo_women/what_do_you_prefer?pageNo=0#bottom

Clip11 is a troll and hasn’t contributed much else to this site so far than starting racist, misogynist and homophobic (in the discriminatory sense, not the fear non-sense) threads. Trolls like him shouldn’t be fed - engaging with them only lowers the quality of the discussion and the site in general.

Makkun[/quote]

Fuck you bitch…mind your business

[clip11]

[quote]Cronk wrote:
clip11 wrote:
Why is it that you can praise gayness all day long, say how wonderful homosexuals are, say that we need to look pass who they choose to sleep with and see who they are on the inside and all that bullshit and you can be praised and have the world cheer you on, but the moment you spaek out against it you are censorsed, shut up and told how much of a bigot you are?

Well, one of those actions involves degrading a population of people based upon a feature of them that does not affect you, and the other action involves accepting and loving all people regardless of their sexual preferences. You seriously can’t see why one would be looked down upon and the other celebrated?

And nobody says gays are “the greatest thing since sliced bread”, just that they are equal to the rest of us and deserve equal treatment. If you don’t agree with that, I’d love to hear why. I could use a laugh.[/quote]

Dot I have a right to “accept and love” whomever I want? Why should that be dictated to me or anyone else? Read the Communist Manifesto…one of their goals is the unopposed promotion of homosexuality.

This is the United States of America where everyone has a right to free speech. No one should only have a right to free speech when they are “accepting and loving” everyone and told to sit down and shut up when they say something that might hurt one groups feelings. As a black person, I am opposed to the Ku Klux Klan, yet I support their right to free speech and to say what they feel. Because if you take away the Klans right of free speech, then whats stopping you from taking away my right of free speech?

When Tim Hardaway said he hates gays, the media came down hard on him…but doesnt he have a right to hate whomever he wants, regardless of why? He was fined by the league and i think had to sit out a few games. Why is this man being punished for exercising his right to free speech, he wasnt advocating violence against homosexuals, he just said he doesnt like them and dont want to be around them. You can take that whichever way you want!

The only way you can get around not supporting homosexuality is to take a neutral stance on it by saying bullshit like what Charles Barkely said…to paraphrase him he said “Who he sleeps with is his business”. He neither took a stand for it or against it, but still gave a politically correct answer.

And if you look up political correctnes youll find that it came out of communist Russia.

[clip11]

But im not arguing about whether you can get HIV or not, the point was that although its a primarily gay disease and its proof to back it up, no one still can say it out loud, no matter how true it may be, lest homosexuals become offended.

Like I said, saying anyone can get it is only a half true statement…because it implies that everyone is at the same risk, when in fact, only homosexuals are at a truly high risk.

Question is, if its arguably true and I have proof, why cant it be said, regardless of who it may offend?

Especially when Im not advocating violence against them?

[clip11]

Gay couple left free to abuse boys - because social workers feared being...

[Schwarzfahrer]

Makkun, you’re right.

I feel sorry for posting here.

[Cronk]

You’re right, you do have the right to dislike anybody you want, just like people have the right to disagree with you. For example, Tim Hardaway was not arrested for saying he hates gays; however, other people used their freedom of speech to express that he’s a douche. Just like you’re free to dislike homosexuality, others are free to dislike your hatred of gays.

If I said, “I hate black people”, you’d probably disagree. You’d proabably point out reasons that I shouldn’t hate black people, and, if I were famous, the media would be up in arms about my racist behavior. None of this has anything to do with the government’s guarentee of freedom of speech, it’s simply a matter of whether society likes or dislikes bigotry. In general, regardless of the group you are hating, if you make a bigoted remark, you can expect people to be angry about it.

You can’t have the freedom of speech yourself while expecting others not to use their own freedom to disagree. Of course you can say “I hate gays”, just like anyone can say “I hate black people” or “Women shouldn’t be able to vote” - the government allows you to do so, but you can’t expect to hate a group of people without angering people.

Do you, especially as a black person, really not understand why your hatred of an entire group is seen as offensive?

[Headhunter]

[quote]clip11 wrote:
Cronk wrote:
clip11 wrote:
Why is it that you can praise gayness all day long, say how wonderful homosexuals are, say that we need to look pass who they choose to sleep with and see who they are on the inside and all that bullshit and you can be praised and have the world cheer you on, but the moment you spaek out against it you are censorsed, shut up and told how much of a bigot you are?

Well, one of those actions involves degrading a population of people based upon a feature of them that does not affect you, and the other action involves accepting and loving all people regardless of their sexual preferences. You seriously can’t see why one would be looked down upon and the other celebrated?

And nobody says gays are “the greatest thing since sliced bread”, just that they are equal to the rest of us and deserve equal treatment. If you don’t agree with that, I’d love to hear why. I could use a laugh.

Dot I have a right to “accept and love” whomever I want? Why should that be dictated to me or anyone else? Read the Communist Manifesto…one of their goals is the unopposed promotion of homosexuality.

This is the United States of America where everyone has a right to free speech. No one should only have a right to free speech when they are “accepting and loving” everyone and told to sit down and shut up when they say something that might hurt one groups feelings. As a black person, I am opposed to the Ku Klux Klan, yet I support their right to free speech and to say what they feel. Because if you take away the Klans right of free speech, then whats stopping you from taking away my right of free speech?

When Tim Hardaway said he hates gays, the media came down hard on him…but doesnt he have a right to hate whomever he wants, regardless of why? He was fined by the league and i think had to sit out a few games. Why is this man being punished for exercising his right to free speech, he wasnt advocating violence against homosexuals, he just said he doesnt like them and dont want to be around them. You can take that whichever way you want!

The only way you can get around not supporting homosexuality is to take a neutral stance on it by saying bullshit like what Charles Barkely said…to paraphrase him he said “Who he sleeps with is his business”. He neither took a stand for it or against it, but still gave a politically correct answer.

And if you look up political correctnes youll find that it came out of communist Russia.
[/quote]

This is a fine post and shows a good depth of thought. I don’t see why other posters are ripping on you. You should be free to say whatever you wish, so long as no harm is done to another. The PC stuff is fascistic.

[MoundJohnson]

I came across this post when surfn around. It is a view that I have never considered.
http://contributors.blogsome.com/2008/12/22/spepper-the-other-shaker/

[MeinHerzBrennt]

[quote]clip11 wrote:
Cronk wrote:
clip11 wrote:
Why is it that you can praise gayness all day long, say how wonderful homosexuals are, say that we need to look pass who they choose to sleep with and see who they are on the inside and all that bullshit and you can be praised and have the world cheer you on, but the moment you spaek out against it you are censorsed, shut up and told how much of a bigot you are?

Well, one of those actions involves degrading a population of people based upon a feature of them that does not affect you, and the other action involves accepting and loving all people regardless of their sexual preferences. You seriously can’t see why one would be looked down upon and the other celebrated?

And nobody says gays are “the greatest thing since sliced bread”, just that they are equal to the rest of us and deserve equal treatment. If you don’t agree with that, I’d love to hear why. I could use a laugh.

Dot I have a right to “accept and love” whomever I want? Why should that be dictated to me or anyone else? Read the Communist Manifesto…one of their goals is the unopposed promotion of homosexuality.

This is the United States of America where everyone has a right to free speech. No one should only have a right to free speech when they are “accepting and loving” everyone and told to sit down and shut up when they say something that might hurt one groups feelings. As a black person, I am opposed to the Ku Klux Klan, yet I support their right to free speech and to say what they feel. Because if you take away the Klans right of free speech, then whats stopping you from taking away my right of free speech?

When Tim Hardaway said he hates gays, the media came down hard on him…but doesnt he have a right to hate whomever he wants, regardless of why? He was fined by the league and i think had to sit out a few games. Why is this man being punished for exercising his right to free speech, he wasnt advocating violence against homosexuals, he just said he doesnt like them and dont want to be around them. You can take that whichever way you want!

[/quote]

The right to free speech only protects against punishment by the government, not the NBA.

[Makavali]

I think clip11 is gay. For someone who is supposedly heterosexual, he seems awfully threatened by teh scary g@yz.

Itz a ghey consp1raciesz!!!1!!!eleven!!

[clip11]

[quote]Cronk wrote:
You’re right, you do have the right to dislike anybody you want, just like people have the right to disagree with you. For example, Tim Hardaway was not arrested for saying he hates gays; however, other people used their freedom of speech to express that he’s a douche. Just like you’re free to dislike homosexuality, others are free to dislike your hatred of gays.

If I said, “I hate black people”, you’d probably disagree. You’d proabably point out reasons that I shouldn’t hate black people, and, if I were famous, the media would be up in arms about my racist behavior. None of this has anything to do with the government’s guarentee of freedom of speech, it’s simply a matter of whether society likes or dislikes bigotry. In general, regardless of the group you are hating, if you make a bigoted remark, you can expect people to be angry about it.

You can’t have the freedom of speech yourself while expecting others not to use their own freedom to disagree. Of course you can say “I hate gays”, just like anyone can say “I hate black people” or “Women shouldn’t be able to vote” - the government allows you to do so, but you can’t expect to hate a group of people without angering people.

Do you, especially as a black person, really not understand why your hatred of an entire group is seen as offensive?[/quote]

Its not society…its one group whining about their feelings being hurt. The thing is to shut down any opposition period. And dont get me started on bs like “diversity training”.

Like when you discuss homosexuality, you cant have an intelligent dialogue about it. If you dont agree with their point of view, it must immediatley be censored. Its only a matter of time before it becomes a legal crime not to cosign on that lifestyle.

[clip11]

[quote]Cronk wrote:
You’re right, you do have the right to dislike anybody you want, just like people have the right to disagree with you. For example, Tim Hardaway was not arrested for saying he hates gays; however, other people used their freedom of speech to express that he’s a douche. Just like you’re free to dislike homosexuality, others are free to dislike your hatred of gays.

If I said, “I hate black people”, you’d probably disagree. You’d proabably point out reasons that I shouldn’t hate black people, and, if I were famous, the media would be up in arms about my racist behavior. None of this has anything to do with the government’s guarentee of freedom of speech, it’s simply a matter of whether society likes or dislikes bigotry. In general, regardless of the group you are hating, if you make a bigoted remark, you can expect people to be angry about it.

You can’t have the freedom of speech yourself while expecting others not to use their own freedom to disagree. Of course you can say “I hate gays”, just like anyone can say “I hate black people” or “Women shouldn’t be able to vote” - the government allows you to do so, but you can’t expect to hate a group of people without angering people.

Do you, especially as a black person, really not understand why your hatred of an entire group is seen as offensive?[/quote]

And it not just gays, what if someone said black people as a group are dangerous then presented proof?

For instance, there was a list of the top 25 dangerous cities in America. Detroit, where I live, made # 3. In all of those cities, every single one of them, there was a majority black population.

There also was a list of the top 25 safest cities in America. In all of those cities, there was a majority white and/or asian population.

But if someone, especially someone white, was to point this out, they would be called racist. Which I dont see why if they are just quoting facts.

I hold homosexuals to the same standard.

[clip11]

[quote]Makavali wrote:
I think clip11 is gay. For someone who is supposedly heterosexual, he seems awfully threatened by teh scary g@yz.

Itz a ghey consp1raciesz!!!1!!!eleven!![/quote]

Youre the one with a near naked man as your picture.

[clip11]

[quote]Makavali wrote:
I think clip11 is gay. For someone who is supposedly heterosexual, he seems awfully threatened by teh scary g@yz.

Itz a ghey consp1raciesz!!!1!!!eleven!![/quote]

All he got is a loin cloth covering him and that looks like its about to fall off.

And wasnt your last picture a man in a g string?

[Makavali]

Yeah, having a bodybuilder as an avatar when on a bodybuilding website is gay. Sure clip11. Sure.

I do hope for your sake that you come out soon, you’ll be happier for it.

[orion]

[quote]clip11 wrote:

Dot I have a right to “accept and love” whomever I want? Why should that be dictated to me or anyone else? Read the Communist Manifesto…one of their goals is the unopposed promotion of homosexuality.

[/quote]

This is the Communist Manifesto:

School of Politics & International Relations

Where does it say this?

[clip11]

[quote]Makavali wrote:
Yeah, having a bodybuilder as an avatar when on a bodybuilding website is gay. Sure clip11. Sure.

I do hope for your sake that you come out soon, you’ll be happier for it.[/quote]

Yea, but regardless, its still a man in a loin cloth. If you a man, why are you going to put up a pic of another near naked man in his underwear? Thats gay, I dont care what site its on.

And I dont see anyone else doing that, most ppl got pics of females or themselves.