I think you said you had IBS somewhere earlier, a lot of fruits are high in FODMAPs (fructose and sorbitol) which might’ve been part of the problem. Be interesting to see if different, low FODMAP fruits impacted you similarly.
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yep
interesting. Maybe. I do notice that all of the veggies I eat on a regular basis are “low fodmap” I also seem do do very well with honey, which is high fodmap
I had ~200g pineapple the other day and was okay, but last week, I had ~6 strawberries and stomach ballooned. Both are low fodmap
Yeah, but your dietary behaviors are anything but normal. Putting a finger on any given thing is as arbitrary as anything.
Like, you’ll eat a ton of fruit, them a bunch of greasy pork or fish, then run/walk march in place for 10 miles then say “Fruit must be the problem”.
That’s like saying that smoking must have helped me poop because when I quit smoking a few hours before having a heart attack-I’ve had problems going ever since.
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I ate fruit regularly apart from the “grill nights” and have experienced an improvement in digestion since not eating fruit
Btw, I’m not saying that fruit is bad by any means. Fruit is very delicious and nutritious
And
I’m not gonna go any further on this.
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Interesting. I know some people talk about carnivore fixing gut issues which definitely flies in the face of we need more fiber and it’s vital. However I believe most of that is anecdotal.
Either way I’m not taking anything other than a curious stance. Like I said I hadn’t even read anything questioning fiber before. Just always been borderline gospel that you needed it.
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I used to chew tobacco and I swear I had more frequent bowel movements then (not that I’m not regular now) just wondered if something was there.
I realize this has nothing to do with what your point was but just made me think of it.
I’m not questioning fiber, I’m just sharing an anecdote that removing fruit, for the large part, has improved my digestion
Nicotine does have a stimulatory effect. Along with other regular rituals and rhythms, I’m sure it has some effect.
One of the biggest factors I’ve noticed has been time spent throughout the day moving. Regular days upright, in motion and at work make regular movements.
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My suspicion is because it’s an extreme version of an elimination diet. They’ve cut out everything but meat, which will naturally include whatever food(s) were causing them issues. They could then continue to reintroduce different foods slowly, only keeping what doesn’t cause them gastric distress afterwards.
Yup. I didn’t really mean my post as a serious retort to the subject.
I’m one of the carnivore guys just because it works for me. My digestion is the absolute best the stricter carnivore I go (all the way down to 0 fiber). HOWEVER, I would offer a word of caution on it. While I’m great on carnivore it’s largely ruined me to fibrous foods. In my current cut for the transformation contest I actually started experimenting with adding in some low calorie vegetables (just so I could eat more) and I couldn’t do it. I basically went for 2 week with horrible gas, bloating, stomach pains, and, oddly, a constant ravenous hunger (maybe because I wasn’t digesting much?) before I quit eating veggies again. By the end of the 2 weeks it actually was getting worse.
No. Fiber itself causes issues for many people and not just in terms of subjective measures.
Interesting, especially reading what you just posted about your experiences.
I know personally, low fibre is no bueno for me. I eat a ton of fibrous foods and my guts are nice and happy with it. Full evacuations every morning with no issues, but when my fibre drops, it’s a fight to get little rabbit turds out of me all day.
The variance in humans is fascinating.
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I didn’t much either. Sometimes the old medical stuff is just funny. Terrifying, but funny. 
Kellogg could also be seen as a BDSM OG on getting people to pay him to do a bunch of wierd butt stuff to them.
I think it’s all pretty interesting how adaptable our entire physiology is. Like in times of scarcity, we can survive on almost anything or nearly nothing long enough to get somewhere else or for a seasonal change to take place.
Mind you, not saying thrive or build muscle, just not die.
Yup. It’s not even just genetic, it’s trainable and situational. My point in the thread is that at most research gives you things to try and test individually. There are always populations in studies with negative outcomes and positive outcomes. The absolute average outcome does not matter to the individual, even thought that’s generally all people look at. If people want to take something or change their diet I’d suggest knowing the purpose, trying it, and see if it works for the goal. Blind taking of something based on averages in studies without a purpose or metric to judge success is silly. If you aren’t pooping well, people should look at both sides of fiber (more and less) and see what works.
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Plus, when combined with recycled urine in the toilet douche, there is no longer any need for the toilet paper industry. This is truly a green revolution!
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That’s actually something I’ve been thinking about recently. I think that one of my issues may be a lack of seasonality to both my training and diet. Long term seasonality is something Humans have naturally had for millions of years and I tend to fall into old habits most of the time. I probably should have some appreciable time where don’t touch a barbell (I haven’t done that in over 20 years).
For diet I’m going to try to eat more in line with the seasons this year and see how it goes. I’ll still be meat based but I’m going to be trying to add in fruits and honey and things when they’d naturally be available. I may even let my weight drift up for winter and come back down into the summer.
Bidets, my man. Truly life changing.
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Thats what l meant. Couldnt recall what they were called.
Hooked up 4 of the handheld style sprayers during last year’s paper shortage.
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I visit Japan not infrequently and am dismayed at the disparity in our toilet technology. Japan is further ahead of us on toilets than anything else.
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