The error in your response is that you dont know what you are talking about. Creatine is not a “chemical” it is a naturally occuring substance in food. Namely tuna, herring, and beef. It is also made in small amounts by the human body. It is supplemented with because you would have to eat insane amounts of the named food item to get the same amount of creatine. Learn first, then feel free to share your shit advice on a particular topic. According to your logic I should stop using whey too, just because I buy it in concentrated form. You are a walking fallacy.
[quote]BIGERIC wrote:
I realize most people like you and 5000 other guys can’t make good progress without having to fill your body with chemicals. This poster asked a question and I gave him an answer. Hard work and a good diet is all that is needed to be successful. And besides it is the truth and I said that I was not 100 percent sure. Besides it is too bad that 5000 other guys are wasting thier money when all they have to do is focus and work a little harder.
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Food is made of chemicals. Carbohydrates, glucose, protein… yup all chemicals.
As for the 5000 guys wasting their money instead of more focus and harder intensity… that’s just dumb. You have absolutely no clue as to anyone’s intensity or diet. Nor what they take as supplements. So don’t make up suppositions and generic across the board generalizations deriding others’ methods.
For the price of three good steaks (which last three meals), you can buy some creatine that’ll last two, three months. It’s hardly dangerous, unless you’re BIGERIC. How’s coffee on that weak ticker of yours, big guy?
[quote]kroby wrote:
BIGERIC wrote:
I realize most people like you and 5000 other guys can’t make good progress without having to fill your body with chemicals. This poster asked a question and I gave him an answer. Hard work and a good diet is all that is needed to be successful. And besides it is the truth and I said that I was not 100 percent sure. Besides it is too bad that 5000 other guys are wasting thier money when all they have to do is focus and work a little harder.
Food is made of chemicals. Carbohydrates, glucose, protein… yup all chemicals.
As for the 5000 guys wasting their money instead of more focus and harder intensity… that’s just dumb. You have absolutely no clue as to anyone’s intensity or diet. Nor what they take as supplements. So don’t make up suppositions and generic across the board generalizations deriding others’ methods.
For the price of three good steaks (which last three meals), you can buy some creatine that’ll last two, three months. It’s hardly dangerous, unless you’re BIGERIC. How’s coffee on that weak ticker of yours, big guy?
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Ok, first off I was just relating my experience with the thread owner. Secondly I do not understand why all these know it alls sit there and defend such things as legal and illegal supplements. Must be alot of supplement dealers on these boards. Or you were insulted because all this time you have been wasting your money on creatine. and by the gfys
A. No one is talking about illegal supplements.
B. No one deals, they just want the O.P. not to get scared away from creatine that could significantly improve his progress naturally just because you start ranting about “all those chemicals all us supplement dealers but in our bodies”.
C. I dunno if creatine did it to you or not, I never attacked that. I attacked your blatant misunderstanding of and propaganda against perfectly natural and safe supplements. I simply take offense to people who talk shit without knowing anything about the subject.
[quote]BIGERIC wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
BIGERIC wrote:
flipHKD_6 wrote:
Is creatine worth the time/ money? I know it doesn’t take much time, but are the results worth the money? What all are the benefits of creatine?
I started taking creatine and after a couple of weeks I began to get heart palpitations. I am not talking about 1 here or there I am talking about 5 - 10 palpitations a minute. I decided to stop taking it and it took a month but the palpitations have finally stopped. I am not 100 percent sure if it was the creatine but I am pretty sure. So in my opinion, for what little it gives you, no it is not worth it. Besides it makes you retain water.
It’s always refreshing to watch people extrapolate truth for all of humanity from their own individual experience.
Even if conceding that creatine was the cause of your problem there are 5000 guys for every one of you that have had no issues whatsoever.
I realize most people like you and 5000 other guys can’t make good progress without having to fill your body with chemicals. This poster asked a question and I gave him an answer. Hard work and a good diet is all that is needed to be successful. And besides it is the truth and I said that I was not 100 percent sure. Besides it is too bad that 5000 other guys are wasting thier money when all they have to do is focus and work a little harder.
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Silliness. In my opinion most supplements are not worthwhile but creatine is one that works.
Based on other posts of yours and your general attitude I doubt your palpitations story and I think you have an axe to grind in these matters.
creatine definately got the numbers on all my lifts up, and i see my muscles are alot fuller since i’ve been taking it. creatine is also pretty cheap.
also without a good diet and training regimen, there will be NO supplement that will live up to your expectations. everyone nowadays expects to pop a pill and get huge over night.
Thanks for all the information guys. On to the second question. In your oppinions, which would be better creatine, the one on this site or the name brand ones at gnc?
absolutely the one on this site, micronized creatine monoydrate powder is all you need. GNC sells alot of garbage that is overpriced. Go with the on this site and mix it with non-acidic fruit juice.
Alright thanks, and what fruit juice would be non acidic? (just an example would do)
fruit punch, Apple I believe. hell kool-aid. Pretty much you just want simple sugars to produce an insulin spike which helps drive the creatine into the muscle as it does with protein. I use fruit-punch (when I’m not cutting) cuz it generally is very sugary. Read up on dosing protocols and have at it. Alot of people dose different ways. I personally do a 5 day loading phase of 20-25g a day then 10g on training days and non on off days as I train 3 days on 1 day off and repeat. You may want to dose on off days if you work out only 3-4 days a week.
The main goal is to keep the muscle saturated with creatine. Just read up on the dosing and how creatine works. I usually go 6-8 weeks on it and then a week or two off then repeat. However it doesnt need to be cycled its just a personal choice. Do read a little more and learn how to use it.
Creatine is DEFINITELY worth it. I have a new found appreciation of it after taking a month off and dieting. It helps so much.
[quote]F0rG3tNikeDoMe wrote:
For the same price of a meal at a fast food joint you can get 500 grams of creatine. Take the reccomended serving of 5 grams a day and you would have enough to last forever. Within this time you can jusge for yourself whether its worth it. [/quote]
Mmmm 500/100=100days=forever? how old are you?