I started a cycle of Test 500 and Deca 300. I was doing 1 cc of test and 2cc of Deca over two injections. I was using a preworkout and multi also as my supps. 2 weeks in I had to go to the ER since I couldn’t get my heart rate under 100-105 after a day and a half. Well I had an irregular heartbeat AFib and aflutter. Cardiologist said it had to do with my preworkout and caffeine intake shooting up my BP and threw my heart off. I do have a family history of high BP. He placed me on a beta blocker and aspirin. My bloodwork was normal and continues to be normal. Normal EKG, heart size and all. My BP is around 125/75 with the meds and a normal pulse. So my question is, should I restart my cycle? Or should I just drop it and go about another means?
First and foremost you need to determine the actual cause of your elevated heart rate/arrhythmia. Do you use any recreational drugs? What type of prescription drugs are you on? How much caffeine are you ingesting in a day?
All of this greatly matters and your question of restarting your cycle cannot be answered without knowing the answers to those questions, and likely some other add on/follow up questions
I do not use any recreation drugs. I’ll have a few beers a week at most. I’m only on a beta blocker and aspirin at the moment after my ER visit. I was consuming about 500mg - 600 mg of caffeine a day. 0 now. Hope that helps. The doctor said it was the caffiene levels and my working out threw my heart out of order. Hope that helps. Thanks
If I am not mistaken, some (many?) arrhythmias are caused by lack of potassium or potassium imbalance, and if you eat a standard American diet, or anything resembling that, then you are likely potassium deficient. As far as an elevated heart rate for 36 hours, I’m not sure you could say that 500-600 mg caffeine would do that unless you are hyper sensitive to caffeine, although that is quite a lot of caffeine.
I’m 245 lbs and I usually don’t go over about 300/day on lifting days. Non lifting days it’s usually 100 or less.
For the record I’m not a doctor and non of this is medical advice. I’m just a dude that does a bit of reading for both anecdotal and scientific data.
No other prescriptions? I assume not since you listed only beta blockers and aspirin.
Also have you ever done test only? Is this your first run with deca?
First go with both. Yes it could be I have a supplement imbalance. I try to take a multi but I realize that isn’t an end all/be all. But not outside of a beer a few times a week no other drugs. I’m 6’5 about 255-260.
I’d say drop the cycle.
Some people are particularly sensitive to the pro-arrhythmiac effects of AAS.
Yes, some stimulant laden preworkouts can trigger arrhythmia, as can genetic predisposition/cardiac structural or electrical defects, caffeine overdose etc.
But the matter of the fact is, you’d never used gear. Two weeks in (high dose use might I add) you’re suffering from cardiac autonomic dysfunction and eventually… Arrhythmia
Do what you want, I’d advise against it. Or at the very least significantly, significantly lower the dose (I’d recommend nothing at all).
If you’re low T, look into trt
Definitely go with @unreal24278 said. Cease use.
However, I know that if it were me I would probably do it again anyways, so if you insist on doing it again, drop the deca (you should’ve never used that for a first cycle… but it cannot be undone now) and cut the test dose in half.
Again, not medical advice, and I advise you do not use AAS. But if you’re going to do it anyways, this may be about the “safest” way to do it. (None of it is safe, just less unsafe). Also, wait until your doctor clears you, don’t try to hop on now.
I’ve been cleared by my cardiologist, but I appreciate the advice. So in halfing the dose should I do .5cc a week? I’m still learning all this. But I’m definitely going to look into TRT in the bear future. thanks again for the input I’ve received
You’ve been cleared by your cardiologist to do what exactly?
Also what info did you share with your cardiologist regarding your drug use (OTC and non-OTC)?
I was cleared to resume normal activities and heavy lifting. I didn’t share about the cycle since it was so early on, might be stupid on my part which I accept if so.
I don’t understand why the hell people still use preworkouts especially AAS users should abstain from such non-sense.
I’d advise you to lower your dose at the very least. Drop the deca. How many cycles do you have under your belt?
Edit: I read it’s your first run. Then I’d definitely drop the deca ASAP. Also drop all the stimulants. If the risk is worth it to you, you can keep the test but I think you should probably just stop altogether for a while.
Thanks for the transparency. You’ve received some fantastic info and guidance here.
You stacked caffeine, Test and Nandrolone. I’d recommend dropping the nandrolone (“Deca”), Test, and caffeine given your experience. I didn’t see your age above but I’ve been in your position and autonomic dysfunction and arrhythmia is no fun.
If you’re hell bent on continuing then dropping your test dosage to 250 mg/week (remove other stuff) or less would give you some information on your response to AAS in a more methodical manner. Take care of yourself.
Also depending on age and HPTA status, you could look into TRT and slowly titrate dose to see your dose response and sensitivity. There’s a ton of info in the TRT forum. Unfortunately some of us don’t respond well to even moderate exogenous Testosterone use (abuse).
In case it’s helpful here’s some info on the potential issue (AAS induced autonomic dysfunction) and links to @unreal24278 's extensive posts on the topic.
Alright well judging by everything, I’m going to drop it. Thanks for the help and info.