Thanks for the “sheeple” commentary.
If anyone is guilty of lack of original thought, it’s your side of the aisle.
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This is actually a common logical fallacy called “Poisoning the wells”. Your information cannot be correct because I don’t trust the sources. Or more accurately, your arguments are in valid because your sources are invalid. In truth the sources don’t matter as much as the argument. If the information in the argument is correct, it does not matter where it came from.
It’s really a method of protecting ones argument with insults.
You guys do realize that the President of Iran, the nutjob himself, has no real power? He has as much power as the Queen of England. He has no power over their military or any other important aspect of their country and certainly doesn’t have the authority to order a nuclear strike. He’s nothing more than a babbling idiot.
[quote]OKLAHOMA STATE wrote:
You guys do realize that the President of Iran, the nutjob himself, has no real power? He has as much power as the Queen of England. He has no power over their military or any other important aspect of their country and certainly doesn’t have the authority to order a nuclear strike. He’s nothing more than a babbling idiot.
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He is an elected official from the pool of candidates approved by the ruling mullahs. He says what they want him to say.
Dismissing his statements would be like dismissing Tony Snow’s statements because he is not president.
[quote]OKLAHOMA STATE wrote:
You guys do realize that the President of Iran, the nutjob himself, has no real power? He has as much power as the Queen of England. He has no power over their military or any other important aspect of their country and certainly doesn’t have the authority to order a nuclear strike. He’s nothing more than a babbling idiot.
That surprises me. You talk just like a liberal democrat.
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LOL! There you go again. Do you even know what a liberal democrat is. Is that the label you attach to individuals who disagree with Bush’s neo-con, imperialist agenda?
The idiots on TV demonize Arab muslims saying they hate us for our freedom and want all Americans dead.
I’ve heard the “good guys” say countless times that we should attack Iran or Syria because a terrorist from those countries could get a wmd and set it of in the U.S. I will not even get into the idiots on the radio saying how we should reduce the middle east to glass.
I never said I was. I hate both parties equally.
Right, they just woke up one morning and decided to kill Jews.
You really are lost aren’t you? Do you not know what reactionary means?
Again, you act like your opinion is superior to all others. You’re speaking for all of T-Nation right now?
Considering my job, I think I have the right to be critical of the government that I work for.
I’ve never met him so I don’t know how I can admire him. I think he is brave for standing up for his beliefs even if it means being shot by a firing squad, which technically he could if the government wanted to.
Bottom line is, he signed a contract. He can serve his time and do what is asked of him.
Why do you believe everything the government controlled media tells you.
Why would you think I did?
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You think Iran is the next boogy-man that’s hell-bent on world domination. Others have attempted to bring the influence of Israel in U.S. foreign policy to light, only for you to call that information “lies”.
No you can’t. Your another individual on this board who thinks their opinion/intellect is superior to others, when in fact it isn’t
I’m naive? This is interesting coming from you.
I don’t know that I ever trusted the government. I just see the lies and corruption more clearly now.
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I understand why they need to stretch the truth when dealing with evil like Iran, etc. It is the way it has always been.[/quote]
So you condone the American population being deceived time and time again.
Iran is no more “evil” than any other nation in the world.
Don’t call me naive and then type this rubbish about evil boogy-men in the world.
[quote]JeffR wrote:
dustin, do you admire him[Watada]? Do you think his example is a good one? Do you wish more people refused to serve? Do you specifically think he is brave for taking this stance?
JeffR
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[Army 1st Lt. Ehren Watada] also faces charges of conduct unbecoming an officer for accusing the Army of war crimes, denouncing the U.S. for conducting an “illegal war” founded on “lies” and encouraging fellow soldiers to “throw down their weapons.” http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20070206-121218-7307r.htm
Nuremburg Trials, 1946
Opening Address for the United States
Robert Jackson
THE LAW OF INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY
The Charter recognizes that one who has committed criminal acts may not take refuge in superior orders nor in the doctrine that his crimes were acts of states…
Those in lower ranks were protected against liability by the orders of their superiors. The superiors were protected because their orders were called acts of state. Under the Charter, no defense based on either of these doctrines can be entertained. Modern civilization puts unlimited weapons of destruction in the hands of men. It cannot tolerate so vast an area of legal irresponsibility. Opening Address for the United States
In other words, any soldier who knowingly commits a war crime, even under a direct order, could be subject to prosecution under international law.
War critics astonished as US hawk [Richard Perle] admits Iraq invasion was illegal
“If certain acts of violation of treaties are crimes, they are crimes whether the United States does them or whether Germany does them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct against others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us.”
–Robert Jackson, Nuremberg Tribunal
Why do you believe everything the government controlled media tells you.
Why would you think I did?
You think Iran is the next boogy-man that’s hell-bent on world domination. Others have attempted to bring the influence of Israel in U.S. foreign policy to light, only for you to call that information “lies”.
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Iran is not the “next” bogeyman. They have been run by evil men doing evil things for almost 30 years.
Superior to yours. I am smart enough not to hate based on race/religion. I remember your white supremacist avatar and your anti-semitic postings. Not only do I think I am smarter than you I also think I am morally superior.
You were stupid enough to join the military of a government you never trusted?
If it wasn’t for your hate filled political leanings I would feel sorry for you. As it stands I would rather mock you.
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I understand why they need to stretch the truth when dealing with evil like Iran, etc. It is the way it has always been.
So you condone the American population being deceived time and time again.
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All people are deceived by their governments and they always will be. Our government does far less than most if not all. They do a very poor job at deception. The truth is readily available. You just have to sift through the bullshit and not get caught up in tirades against Jews.
I do not recall any other nation taking over our embassy and holding our people hostage. Iran has been funding terrorism against American citizens, soldiers and marines around the world for nearly 30 years. That makes them more evil than almost any other country on earth.
Just because they share your hatred for Jews does not mean you should consider them your friend.
Superior to yours. I am smart enough not to hate based on race/religion. I remember your white supremacist avatar and your anti-semitic postings. Not only do I think I am smarter than you I also think I am morally superior.
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Your not superior to me in any way.
I dare you to go back and find my “anti-semitic postings.” You’re a clueless idiot.
I joined for my own personal benefit.
Please provide proof of my hate-filled political leanings. Again, this is interesting coming from a guy that would nuke the entire middle east if he could.
Being critical of Israel equates to hatred of Jews? Are you really being serious?
Why have they funded terrorism against the U.S? Maybe it’s like I said in an earlier post: they’re tired of the U.S. and Israel bullying them aorund military and economically.
Of course, you can’t comprehend that peoples of a different part of the world might not want to live just like Americans, or have Americans impose their will on them.
Terrorism is reactionary. Arab muslims don’t just wake up one day and decide to kill Americans or Jews. They’re pissed off for a reason.
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Just because they share your hatred for Jews does not mean you should consider them your friend.[/quote]
Don’t waste my time with your false statements and lies.
I don’t consider Iran our friends any more than I do Israel, China, or Luxemborg.
Last I knew, it wasn’t the Israeli’s promising to “wipe out” iran.
The nutball is actually threatening nuclear annhilation of Israel. Two weeks ago, he directly threatened the U.S. with the same.[/quote]
There is much more reason to be concerned with Israel than Iran.
Feds surveyed NYC for radiation, found tainted park, Embassy
Federal authorities found 80 unexpected “hot spots” around New York City, according to the Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress.
The GAO report released Thursday details a previously undisclosed aerial anti-terrorism program in New York City, one which may be extended to other cities worried about the possible release of radioactive material by terrorists…
One alleged radiation hot spot on Manhattan’s east side has the potential for becoming a political hot spot: A strong radiation spike from the area of the Israeli Embassy. Officials would not comment on why they thought that particular area allegedly showed such a stunning peak in radiation. http://cleveland.indymedia.org/news/2006/10/22798.php
Obviously it’s pure anti-semitism that causes me concern – to be fair, there were 79 other unexpected “hot spots” in all of NYC that WEREN’T the Israeli consulate.
No, Israel is frightening. Iran is doing what it is ALLOWED to do. Israel is the one ignoring international law AND threatening Iran with nuclear weapons. Israel has weapons RIGHT NOW – THEY are the one’s threatening Iran with a nuclear strike.
Your supposed to be a cop – hypothetically, if “Joe” VERBALLY threatens to kill “Bob” – Bob cannot pre-emptively kill Joe and call it self-defense just because Joe happens to have a gun at home. Or better yet, Joe does not YET own a gun, but he said he will buy one in the future, and so Joe pre-emptively kills him, because it was only a matter of time until he bought that gun.
I don’t care how bad Joe was, Bob is going to jail, charged at the least with 2nd degree murder.
Proof the international community was clearly worried about this very issue with Israel as early as 1989…
Israel urged to destroy nuclear arms
November 28, 2003
Israel has not signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and has never officially admitted to having nuclear weapons. Non-proliferation analysts estimate that Israel has up to 200 such weapons…
The United Nations General Assembly and IAEA General Conference have adopted 13 resolutions since 1987 appealing to Israel to sign the treaty. All have been ignored.
Alan Dershowitz
“We reserve the right to never again rely on international law to do what we are entitled to do” http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=739
Superior to yours. I am smart enough not to hate based on race/religion. I remember your white supremacist avatar and your anti-semitic postings. Not only do I think I am smarter than you I also think I am morally superior.
Your not superior to me in any way.
I dare you to go back and find my “anti-semitic postings.” You’re a clueless idiot.
You were stupid enough to join the military of a government you never trusted?
I joined for my own personal benefit.
If it wasn’t for your hate filled political leanings I would feel sorry for you. As it stands I would rather mock you.
Please provide proof of my hate-filled political leanings. Again, this is interesting coming from a guy that would nuke the entire middle east if he could.
All people are deceived by their governments and they always will be. Our government does far less than most if not all. They do a very poor job at deception. The truth is readily available. You just have to sift through the bullshit and not get caught up in tirades against Jews.
Being critical of Israel equates to hatred of Jews? Are you really being serious?
I do not recall any other nation taking over our embassy and holding our people hostage. Iran has been funding terrorism against American citizens, soldiers and marines around the world for nearly 30 years. That makes them more evil than almost any other country on earth.
Why have they funded terrorism against the U.S? Maybe it’s like I said in an earlier post: they’re tired of the U.S. and Israel bullying them aorund military and economically.
Of course, you can’t comprehend that peoples of a different part of the world might not want to live just like Americans, or have Americans impose their will on them.
Terrorism is reactionary. Arab muslims don’t just wake up one day and decide to kill Americans or Jews. They’re pissed off for a reason.
Just because they share your hatred for Jews does not mean you should consider them your friend.
Don’t waste my time with your false statements and lies.
I don’t consider Iran our friends any more than I do Israel, China, or Luxemborg.
Dustin
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Fuck off Nazi. Peddle your bullshit somewhere else. I have seen and read enough of your shit to know exactly what you are. You fit in well with the other scum on this board.
Fuck off Nazi. Peddle your bullshit somewhere else. I have seen and read enough of your shit to know exactly what you are. You fit in well with the other scum on this board.[/quote]
You’ve seen and read so much of it you can’t even provide an example? Sounds like you once again don’t know what you’re talking about.
The other “scum” on this board are the only individuals telling the truth, you insignificant little twirp.
You just keep hating Arab muslims like you’re told to.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Fuck off Nazi. Peddle your bullshit somewhere else. I have seen and read enough of your shit to know exactly what you are. You fit in well with the other scum on this board.[/quote]
If Dustin and I are Nazis, what would you call this guy? This is TYPICAL Zionist verbiage.
Israeli Professor: ‘We Could Destroy All European Capitals’
2-6-03
(IAP News) – An Israeli professor and military historian hinted that Israel could avenge the holocaust by annihilating millions of Germans and other Europeans.
Speaking during an interview which was published in Jerusalem Friday, Professor Martin Van Crevel said Israel had the capability of hitting most European capitals with nuclear weapons.
“We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets of our air force…”
“Our armed forces are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that this will happen before Israel goes under…”
[quote]Dustin wrote:
…You’ve seen and read so much of it you can’t even provide an example? Sounds like you once again don’t know what you’re talking about.
The other “scum” on this board are the only individuals telling the truth, you insignificant little twirp.
You just keep hating Arab muslims like you’re told to.
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Last time I called you out on this you changed your white supremacist avatar and disappeared for a while.
I got numerous PM’s from people agreeing with me and thanking me for calling you out.
[quote]JustTheFacts wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Fuck off Nazi. Peddle your bullshit somewhere else. I have seen and read enough of your shit to know exactly what you are. You fit in well with the other scum on this board.
If Dustin and I are Nazis, what would you call this guy? This is TYPICAL Zionist verbiage.
Israeli Professor: ‘We Could Destroy All European Capitals’
2-6-03
(IAP News) – An Israeli professor and military historian hinted that Israel could avenge the holocaust by annihilating millions of Germans and other Europeans.
Speaking during an interview which was published in Jerusalem Friday, Professor Martin Van Crevel said Israel had the capability of hitting most European capitals with nuclear weapons.
“We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets of our air force…”
“Our armed forces are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that this will happen before Israel goes under…”
[quote]JustTheFacts wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Fuck off Nazi. Peddle your bullshit somewhere else. I have seen and read enough of your shit to know exactly what you are. You fit in well with the other scum on this board.
If Dustin and I are Nazis, what would you call this guy? This is TYPICAL Zionist verbiage.
Israeli Professor: ‘We Could Destroy All European Capitals’
2-6-03
(IAP News) – An Israeli professor and military historian hinted that Israel could avenge the holocaust by annihilating millions of Germans and other Europeans.
Speaking during an interview which was published in Jerusalem Friday, Professor Martin Van Crevel said Israel had the capability of hitting most European capitals with nuclear weapons.
“We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets of our air force…”
“Our armed forces are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that this will happen before Israel goes under…”
Just like Alan Dershowitz - Its Israel’s right to ignore international law
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Is it possible to think on your own with out advertising all this conspiracy theory bullshit. Your convictionsare clear, the radicals are justified in everyway to attack americans and jews because you believe the jews are pulling all the strings and everyone else are puppets. We should be thankful they attacked us, for we are evil and just do what jews beckon us to do.
Oh yea, almost forgot the holocaust didn’t happen and if it did, it wasn’t jews they were killing it was arabs and germans and they ust said it was jews…That about cover it antisemetic piece of shit?
Last time I called you out on this you changed your white supremacist avatar and disappeared for a while.
I got numerous PM’s from people agreeing with me and thanking me for calling you out.
You probably sulked and read the Turner Diaries.[/quote]
I’ve explained numerous times what the scary “avatar” is. Only schmucks like you who see racism everywhere think it is bad.
If I disappeared for a while it was because my job doesn’t always allow me to get on the internet everyday. If you had a job and didn’t live in your parents basement you’d understand.
I’m glad for you that you got PMs from others. They are probably intellectual numbskulls like yourself.
I’m not here to make fun of you though. You do that to yourself every time you post. My goal is to help people realize that our “president” is selling Americans out for the benefit others.