Suit yourself. I’m tired of answering it as I’ve done it more than once now.
Everyone would be ideal. Shifting resources to the places with the highest needs makes sense. The money would come from taxes that’s how the government operates. Seems like less criminals and less people on social assistance and in prisons may save money to me. Or I suppose we can keep saying “they need to figure it out themselves” and we can get the same results. I’m not saying I’m right just that doing nothing won’t improve anything.
I feel as if you’re purposefully being obtuse here. I’ve made plenty of points and most of them aren’t addressed they are just met with “liberalz want all on food stamps!” If you have an actual point to make that isn’t just a talking point then address what I said. Just spare us the all liberals want this when you classify me as one and I don’t want it.
Nope never once said it. Quote me and prove me wrong. I didn’t say shit about black people even needing to see rich and successful black people.
No I’m just not thinking it’s a massive impact like you. Research backs me up and not you.
You really haven’t, aside from some rhetorical statements that don’t actually mean anything
From what I heard, the Obamacare thing resulted in a lot of people paying ridiculous insurance premiums because the insurance companies basically made non-low income people pay the low income people’s premiums. Half the problem is putting insurance companies in charge. In Canada we have had public healthcare for a long time but in recent years it has gone downhill, now they have hospital beds in hallways and storage rooms. However they are doing it in Europe is the way to go, but for Americans be prepared for more tax.
Subsidising education is too expensive for almost any country in the world. Maybe Saudi Arabia and UAE can afford that, but in North America it can’t work. But I also hear about fucked up inner city schools in the US, I agree something needs to be done about that.
The discrimination regarding healthcare and education is all about money, not race, it just happens that a lot of black people are poor. Fix the cause, not the symptom. Band aid solutions for healthcare?
Research won’t tell you what is going on in people’s heads. How many crack dealers never watched Scarface? How many black men serving jail time in the US didn’t grow up listening to rap music? These things are part of this whole criminal subculture that I am telling you about, but obviously you have no experience with that.
Yeah who is saying it wouldn’t take more tax? The hope (like anything with taxation) would be that the benefits outweigh the cost. Not like we aren’t already spending on tons of stuff less significant than healthcare. And our outcomes for what we do spend are not good.
Lol. Wonder why drugs and crime existed before tv and video games. Again you can ignore multiple studies if you want. You can ignore that if you would choose but you don’t have much evidence. You can ignore the fact that as these things have increased crime has seen dramatic drops.
You’re right! And the issues and solutions I’ve talked about address that. In fact I’ve said that all along.
Did you say on TV? I’ve never said anything about black people needing to see black people on tv. That’s completely different than saying better educated and more successful people will lower those things. How is it even possible they wouldn’t?
It won’t stop crime but you just said it’s a poverty thing and you’re asking if less poverty and better education will decrease those? You’ve already answered.
I don’t have a perfect answer as I’m not a community development specialist or anything and don’t know all the possibilities in these areas. Lots of things online if one wants to look. Main thing would be find communities that are successful and mimic those things. Figure out what people are lacking in regards to succeeding and attempt to deliver it.
Has it been tried before? Yep. Has it eliminated issues? Nope. Not going to fix it all at once or everything/one.
I’m pretty convinced though that if ones answer to poverty and crime is poor people need to figure that shit out on their own then it won’t improve in the least bit.
You edited the post to include this. My entire career has been working with impoverished almost solely (with the exception of when I transferred areas) in rural areas which is where I’m from. So yes I do care quite a bit. And no I don’t think rural poverty isn’t an issue because the town had someone who graduated and became a doctor.
Small town in Kansas. About 60 miles from the Olathe area and about 50 from the capital. I’m from a town of about 600. And I live in one now that has about 12,000 people. Rural areas (with the exception of college) is pretty much all I’ve ever been a part of. Though now my job takes me statewide.
Didn’t grow up on a farm but that’s how we made money growing up. Hauled a lot of hay and cleaned a lot of pig farms. Fixed a lot of fence and other odd jobs for them. And now I’m jealous of one of my best friends who watched YouTube and Netflix in his GPS combine thinking I was born at the wrong time.
I give him a lot of shit since it’s 2020 and he’s watching full seasons of Netflix shows while working but not all the hard work is automated yet. I still go help him from time to time not for money but just to do something with the hands and get fresh air.
Gun violence and murders is increasing over here. This kind of thing is not a hard science like physics or biology, studies can’t accurately measure the influence that media has on people. For sure the media and music is not the main factor, but it seems to me like a significant factor. Do you really think that people are not significantly influenced by media? Why would corporations spend billions of dollars of advertising? If you have a bunch of young guys sitting around smoking weed all day and listening to music telling them to kill anyone who disrespects them, how do you think it’s going to go?
Where are they going to see these people so that they can become role models? You can’t live in public housing if you make more than a certain amount of money, and there are poor white criminals and drug addicts living in pubic housing here as well. How come the existence of all these rich white people hasn’t caused them to change their lives?
Most of the neighborhoods where there are the most shooting are housing projects. Is there such a thing as a successful housing project? Kids there need something positive to do with their time and encouragement to look for jobs, when barely anyone in the neighborhood even works and crime is there all the time it’s easy to get mixed up in it. But nothing much is really being done, the government here wants tighter gun laws for law abiding citizens but that’s not going to stop criminals from illegal buying guns and using them.
This is a very underrated point. It seems to me like the standard for middle class has been raised significantly in past 50 years.
To me, middle class means having what you need eg, food on the table, non shithole housing, bills paid, a car or two for the family, clothes without holes. For many people, they would include hip clothes, electronics, phones for the kids, tv subscriptions, vacations, newer model year cars, takeout food many times a week, big house where everyone gets their own bedroom, etc.
I was raised in a manner where I needed for nothing, but got nowhere near what I wanted. Too many people can’t distinguish between need and want.