Okay just checking. Plenty of people believe stuff they can’t even begin to back up. Billions of them actually. You’ve got company.
How many billions does the US send to Italy every year?
Hey, I can admit when I’m wrong, in this case I could be but nothing can prove either way. You would think that since it’s such a common concept there would be someone debunking it , but no. Instead you have stuff like this:
Correct. Seems quite similar to the concept of all religion.
How could anyone debunk a negative here? I guess, theoretically, if someone were to gain a complete list of Israeli citizens, you could cross reference with Congress. Kinda doubting they’re going to release that list just to satisfy the people bringing so much faith into their Jew hating.
The USA provides 3 billion dollars a year in military aid, which obviously helps the US.
Name one country on Earth which is as ethnocentric as Israel which also has large numbers of that ethnicity playing a substantial role in US politics.
How many armed conflicts in the last 50 years have involved the US defending Italy against its neighbours?
Why does no ethnicity in the US hold the same amount of political capital as the AIPAC, ADL, J Street, SPLC? Where are the Italian equivalents?
As is so often the case, out of huge reams of relevant points, one such as this is chosen and raged over.
How about discussing why the US establishment, no matter who the US citizens vote for, Rep or Dem, are always on the verge of war with Iran?
In contrast, the idea of Mexico, an exceptionally hostile nation to the average US citizen in terms of immigration in the tens of millions and billions upon billions of dollars worth of illegal drugs imported annually, is never brought up as necessitating serious military intervention?
How can Trump turn from MAGA and America First to just another puppet of the ME overnight? Almost all of Trump’s main donors are Jewish, how many are Italian?
What comparisons can be drawn here with Italy, or anywhere else, that they can be in the same manner as Israel.
The truth is no one on this entire forum can answer any of these points with a cogent argument, all they have are epithets and ad hominem.
To raise these kind of points outlined above really does not make someone a crazed conspiracy lunatic, they are entirely valid comments to which apparently nobody can actually give a substantive response.
The Mob.
So in other words it is highly likely that some of the Jewish members of congress and senators are citizens of Israel.
Here is the answer
There are dual citizens, but how many is uncertain because they are not required to state whether they hold citizenship in another country.
"As part of his protest against the 2014 Gaza war that year, a Jewish-American n Massachusetts (Lenny Lapon) renounced the citizenship that he said Israel had conferred on him when he flew to Tel Aviv in October 2010. If this case is not exceptional, one or more Jewish members of Congress may similarly have acquired Israeli citizenship if and when they visited Israel. However, we don’t know if any such member obtained Israeli citizenship; or renounced it if granted.
Before I am accused of anti-Semitism or a McCarthyite witch hunt, let me repeat: there is nothing illegal about dual citizenship for any American, including Members of Congress. Though some may argue that dual citizenship of Senators and Representatives carries an inherent conflict of interest that should require renunciation, my case here is simply for transparency—public disclosure of any dual or multiple citizenship. I single out Israel only because of the possibly automatic nature of its Law of Return."
@zecarlo
So in other words it would be naïve to think that there are currently zero Israeli citizens in congress, and the only way you will find out who holds Israeli citizenship is if they voluntarily tell you themselves.
On October 19, 2010 my plane landed in Israel and instantaneously I was awarded Israeli citizenship with identification card # 012706735, solely because I am Jewish.
Hey, I don’t think that because whichever country will automatically grant you citizenship means that you shouldn’t be allowed to get involved in politics in the US or elsewhere, I’m just continuing with this because you guys were calling me out. But how many Jews that are in congress or the senate have travelled to Israel? Likely all of them hold Israeli citizenship. However, as you see not all of them support the actions of the Israeli government either. Are they anti-Semites?
I think you’re retarded.
How many neighbouring countries of Italy did the Italian Mafia influence the US into attacking?
Your Pancho Villa Expedition link is from an event 100 years ago, which furthermore has zero connection to immigration or illegal drugs, arguably the two biggest problems facing US citizens.
In the last 50 years, tens of millions of Mexicans have moved into America, and during this same period untold billions of illegal drugs have moved from Mexico into America.
Both immigration and drugs are hugely damaging to US citizens.
What has America done to stop Mexico or control its own border?
By comparison, America is willing to be in a state of permanent war in the ME - for what? How is Iraq or Iran or wherever causing problems the way Mexico is?
The US Gov does not serve its own citizens, so a fair follow up is well who does it serve then? And who is controlling it? I’m not suggesting it is one group of people. I am stating that the US Gov/elites/establishment does not serve the interests of US citizens.
The mob was run by jews, Italians were just bloated figureheads.
Take Luciano, for example. Everything he did, everything he accomplished, he did so because Meyer Lansky devised it.
Italians are too unorganized to run anything efficiently, especially such a complex organizations as the Mafia.
People who have driven a Fiat or fought a world war with them will attest to their incompetence.
Jews on the other hand? Brilliant people!
Perhaps I should have mentioned that I was being facetious, but speaking of Italians, imagine if Silvio Berlusconi was still Prime Minister.
There’s no way him and Trump wouldn’t be BFF. The whoremongering between the two would be epic.
I´ll see your Epstein plane with underage bambinas and raise you a mansion full or Moroccan 17 year olds. Legal, too, unless you pay them.
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Highly likely? According to what? You?
I’d have to be hella mouth breathing to believe it’s highly likely, while provided 0 proof.
Just making sure you have no idea who (or if anyone) is an Israeli citizen.
Not much point in discussing it. I was just hoping you’d be dumb enough to try to defend the statement with something. Boring JooHater is boring.
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Reclaiming occupied parts of Mexico.
Gringos love doing drugs. Hence illegal drugs coming from Mexico. If gringos kicked their habit, cartels would be out of business.
But hugely beneficial to US businesses dependent on illegal labor.
Do you often get outsmarted by retards? Poor zecarlo.
That’s an interesting response coming from someone who just got proven wrong.
Considering that they can be automatically given citizenship upon entry, it would be extremely unlikely that none are citizens.
The fact is that this is the wrong discussion to be having. There are Jews in Congress, some of them are likely to be citizens of Israel just like other members of congress are likely to be citizens of other countries seeing as there is no law against congressmen holding dual citizenship. There are sites claiming that 89% of congress is Israeli, which is obvious bullshit, but the actual number will not be found unless these Israel dual citizens come forth and identify themselves.
So maybe the question should be whether you want people with allegiances to foreign countries making decisions on behalf of your country. If Trump was surrounded by Russians would that be cause for controversy, or would you dismiss it as “Russophobia”? What about right wingers going on about Barack HUSSEIN Obama? Do you want foreign interests in charge of your country?
If this is true then Mexico is doing a better job of protecting the US border than Trump:
None of this is relevant to the discussion.
The US Gov is supposed to exist to protect and serve its citizens.
- Reclaiming land: the Gov should stop it
- Drug addiction: the Gov should attempt to stop it
- Illegal labour: the Gov should stop it.
At least you nailed this part.
Perfectly fine question, I just don’t see what dual citizenship really tells us?
Person A could not be Israeli and funded by Israel, doing their bidding.
Person B could be Israeli and not funded by Israel, not doing their bidding.
I don’t give 2 shits about person B, despite having the red flag you would have me care about.
At least we agree on something. However, why should you be permitted to hold dual citizenship while serving as a member of congress, Israeli or otherwise? What if you had citizens of theocratic Muslim countries in congress? We have some in Canadian parliament - Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, and Lebanon as well.
Interestingly, wikipedia has a list of Jewish politicians in Canada but none confess to holding Israeli citizenship. Just like in the US, they aren’t required to.