Iran: If Not Now, When?

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]CHICKEN LITTLE wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Why expend the energy to leave if there is no difference in any place I could go?

All I ask is to be left alone to live in peace and not be constantly solicited by government to fork over money to fund their disasters.

That would be Utopian enough for me.[/quote]

All you need to do is go 12 miles offshore, bud.[/quote]

Ha, no longer.

Still having problems what SENATOR BILL GRAHAM was spelling out?

blah blah blah [/quote]

SENATOR BILL GRAHAM! OMG! SENATOR BILL GRAHAM
BILL Graham.
Now I am confused…It is BILL Graham, stealing away my civil rights, and not Lindsey Graham? Not Orrin Hatch?

Well, who is it? Could it be…mmmm…Diane Feinstein???

"Because the distinguished chairman, the distinguished ranking member, and the Senator from South Carolina assert that it is not their intent in section 1031 to change current law, these discussions went on and on and they resulted in two amendments: our original amendment, which covers only U.S. citizens, which says they cannot be held without charge or trial, and a compromise amendment to preserve current law, which I shall read:

On page 360, between lines 21 and 22, insert the following:

â??Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens or lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.â??"

–Dianne Feinstein, reporting the deliberation of the mark-up committee for the current Senate version of the NDAA.

Orion–NavJoe, the Ahmadinapologist, the Chicken Little of American CIvil Rights–you do a wonderful hysteric. Don’t change! And never let a fact intrude into your delusions.

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Hey Sex Machine, what I find funny is we took our base out of Saudi Arabia, and they still attack us.
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Of course those bases were hidden behind walls in compounds designed to prevent anyone seeing the dirty kuffars who had come to protect the kingdom from Sadam. Any dirty kuffars who go to Saudi Arabia today stay in hotels for dirty kuffars with high walls for the same reason.

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[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

Why expend the energy to leave if there is no difference in any place I could go?

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Oh but there is. You’ll LOVE Somalia trust me. Have you seen/read ‘Lord of the Flies?’ Well you can play little piggy and all the Somali Islamists/warlords can play Jack Merridew and co. and everything will turn out fine. Trust me, I’ve read the book.

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One by one, the Marines sat down, swore to tell the truth and began to give secret interviews discussing one of the most horrific episodes of America’s time in Iraq: the 2005 massacre by Marines of Iraqi civilians in the town of Haditha.

Stop the war and don’t elect politicians that want to continue the war elsewhere.

Please.

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[quote]ephrem wrote:

Stop the war

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What war? The Iraq war? How do you actually ‘stop’ a war anyway? I would’ve thought you either:

  1. Lose/surrender

  2. Win

or

  1. Come to terms with your enemy

So…which are you proposing and can you please provide some more information on your proposal? It all sounds very vague and John Lennonish to me.

BTW I like how you tell other people how to vote - real sass kid.

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Good, now leave Afghanistan and no new war with Iran, please.

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Destabilizing the middle east for the benefit of the good ol’ US of A drags everybody else down too.

That’s modern times for ya.

Now cut it out.

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[quote]ephrem wrote:
Destabilizing the middle east for the benefit of the good ol’ US of A drags everybody else down too.

That’s modern times for ya.

Now cut it out.[/quote]

Funny, I thought the MENA was good and unstable already. Also, I kinda thought that Iran building nukes was rather unstabilizing. But, heck, I’ll bite. Do you think the US is purposefully destabilizing MENA? For what purpose? Could you list an example?

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I’m sure the UN will put a lot of pressure on Iran this time around. Fortunately Syria has just been elected to two UN human rights boards so United Nations credibility is definitely being restored:

‘…the UNESCO Executive Board, on 11 November 2011, elected the Syrian Arab Republic to two committees dealing with human rights - the Committee on Conventions and Recommendations, which examines communications relating to the exercise of human rights, and the Committee on International Non-Governmental Organizations, which is charged with overseeing the work of civil society and human rights groups within UNESCO.’

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:
Destabilizing the middle east for the benefit of the good ol’ US of A drags everybody else down too.

That’s modern times for ya.

Now cut it out.[/quote]

Funny, I thought the MENA was good and unstable already. Also, I kinda thought that Iran building nukes was rather unstabilizing. But, heck, I’ll bite. Do you think the US is purposefully destabilizing MENA? For what purpose? Could you list an example?

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Which led to the Shah, which led to Khomeini and the embassy hostage situation and so on and so forth.

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[quote]Hey Sex Machine, what I find funny is we took our base out of Saudi Arabia, and they still attack us.

These bastards will use any reason to do so.

Ask the Israelis. For every concession they made, Gaza, Lebanon, ect, what did they get in return? Peace? No more attacks, more rockets. The Palestinians now bitch about living behind walls, walls created to prevent their current leaders from slaughtering innocent people with suicide attacks. And mind you these attacks were talking place during PEACE TALKS! ! [/quote]

i think you should not think too one sided. Both parties are in a difficult position. Just image some forein power takes away your land and you cant fight it with anything but suicide attack. One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist ( i know it’s overused). And by the way, during Second Intifada about 5 times more Palestinians were killed than Israelis.

For the issue with the drone: how would you feel if there was some chinese / russian bomber was flying over NY without permission?

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[quote]ephrem wrote:

Which led to the Shah, which led to Khomeini and the embassy hostage situation and so on and so forth.
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I hear this one all so often - HOW? HOW did it lead to that?

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Anyone who says that it’s OK for Iran to have a nuclear weapon is either crazy or malicious. American civilization depends on foreign oil, and will continue to for some time to come, probably all of our lifetimes. Should we withdraw all our troops from foreign countries, as Ron Paul suggests, and risk civilization as we know it? Of what good is his economic policy if we have no gas, no fuel, no food and most of us perish in the process?

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[quote]ephrem wrote:

Which led to the Shah, which led to Khomeini and the embassy hostage situation and so on and so forth.
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Is this a joke response? I thought we were talking about current events, not history.