hcg will cause aromatization also so just remember that when you’re dosing your a.i. You’re running 750iu a week which seems a bit excessive to me but I have little experience with the stuff.
[quote]Iron Mind X wrote:
[quote]Yogi wrote:
[quote]Iron Mind X wrote:
And some other side-effects on your list are long-term effects from high AAS use, but it’s always good to keep stuff like that in mind to accentuate that using AAS should be taken serious. The difference between use and abuse also plays a role there[/quote]
no, any one of those side effects can occur any time depending on your genetics[/quote]
True, but it isn’t only genetics 
Some side-effects are more dose-dependent than others. It will differ from person to person yes, if you get for example male pattern baldness from 500mg test, at 1g AAS or none baldness at all. It’s just the interaction of course.
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well obviously. The point is, saying that added stress on the liver is a reason not to take an AI is retarded when AAS have zillions of way more serious symptoms. Stop being so obtuse.
Effect of Hepatic Impairment
Anastrozole pharmacokinetics have been investigated in subjects with hepatic cirrhosis related to alcohol abuse. The apparent oral clearance (CL/F) of anastrozole was approximately 30% lower in subjects with stable hepatic cirrhosis than in control subjects with normal liver function. However, these plasma concentrations were still with the range of values observed in normal subjects. The effect of severe hepatic impairment was not studied. No dose adjustment is necessary for stable hepatic cirrhosis.
Even people with cirrhosis of the liver Cirrhosis - Wikipedia can safely adminster Arimidex.
Not the best source, but when comparing other resources, they all read the same.
[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
hcg will cause aromatization also so just remember that when you’re dosing your a.i. You’re running 750iu a week which seems a bit excessive to me but I have little experience with the stuff. [/quote]
That is true indeed, I might consider starting with 12,5mg and maybe up to 25mg ED with stane.
What would you advise on the hcg dosis?
well, like I said I have no experience with the stuff but i’d probably just run 500iu a week, injecting 250iu twice a week or just do a blast of it the last two weeks of your cycle.
[quote]Iron Mind X wrote:
A reason for not running an AI is that you might not need one.
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It won’t hurt you. It can only benefit. It minimizes risk. Seriously there is not one sensible argument against taking an AI on a cycle.
[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
well, like I said I have no experience with the stuff but i’d probably just run 500iu a week, injecting 250iu twice a week or just do a blast of it the last two weeks of your cycle. [/quote]
Ah yeah. Some say you should run hcg on a weekly base instead of blasting the last few weeks to keep your Leydig cells sensitive and so they keep responding to a relative low-dose. Both methodes make sense to me, but I think I go for the weekly method.
Some say 2-3x 250iu should be fine. Not sure what frequency I will take then, though.
I am starting see veins in my quads, inner thigh and calves just wanted to add to me thing fun and interesting to this thread.
[quote]Steez wrote:
Effect of Hepatic Impairment
Anastrozole pharmacokinetics have been investigated in subjects with hepatic cirrhosis related to alcohol abuse. The apparent oral clearance (CL/F) of anastrozole was approximately 30% lower in subjects with stable hepatic cirrhosis than in control subjects with normal liver function. However, these plasma concentrations were still with the range of values observed in normal subjects. The effect of severe hepatic impairment was not studied. No dose adjustment is necessary for stable hepatic cirrhosis.
Even people with cirrhosis of the liver Cirrhosis - Wikipedia can safely adminster Arimidex.
Not the best source, but when comparing other resources, they all read the same.[/quote]
Thanks for your reply
I’m thinking about this set-up. Read that hcg use should be discontinued after last week of AAS injections and I thought about upping the dose of nolva in the PCT. Also came with 500iu of hcg weekly instead of 750iu.
Test-only
Week 1-12: Test-e @ 250mg every 3,5day (500mg/weekly)
Week 1-12: hCG @ 2 x 250iu a week
Week 1-14: Aromasin (Exemestane) @ 12,5-25mg ED (start with 12,5mg ED and check sides, blood if I need less/more or not)
Week 15-18: Nolvadex (Tamoxifen ) @ 40mg ED first 2 weeks, 20mg ED last 2 weeks
Looks good to me.
[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
Looks good to me.[/quote]
Alright, thanks for your input, man !
Alright so here’s my bulk diet for my upcoming cycle:
Week 1-12 = ON CYCLE
5300-5500kcal on training days (+500kcal) (Carbs/protein/fat = 750/300/120)
4200-4500kcal on rest days (+500kcal) (Carbs/protein/fat = 500/300/120)
Week 13-14 = pre-PCT
5300-5500kcal on training days (+500kcal) (Carbs/protein/fat = 750/300/120)
4200-4500kcal on rest days (+500kcal) (Carbs/protein/fat = 500/300/120)
15-19 = PCT
5300-5500kcal op trainingsdagen (+500kcal) (Carbs/protein/fat = 750/300/120)
4200-4500kcal op rustdagen (+500kcal) (Carbs/protein/fat= 500/300/120)
After PCT
5300-5500kcal on training days (+500kcal) (Carbs/protein/fat = 750/300/120)
4200-4500kcal on rest days (+500kcal) (Carbs/protein/fat = 500/300/120)
The plan is to increase kcal or maintain kcal intake on-cycle and see how it goes with my bodyweight, lean mass gain vs. fat gain.
And trying to maintain or maybe even up the kcal further during PCT and the period after (and maybe decrease if +500kcal is too much or whatever).
The idea is to at least not decrease kcal during PCT or the period after PCT.
Any tips or suggestions from you guys?