Intermittent fasting on non-training days

Ive told him he needs to mix some bro science into his training…lol

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I’m mostly annoyed that I’m in healthcare (industry, not the important side), but @T3hPwnisher said it best.

This is a great point. Studies demonstrate “x” under “y” conditions. Most folks tune out when someone says “this study ‘proved’…”

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I went in this morning on a coffee with a splash of almond milk, and on my third squat set I got so lightheaded on the eighth rep and had to stop. I actually thought for the first time ever that I may drop the bar.

For context, the prior day was a recovery / cardio. I wanted to be fasted for my HIIT so I ended up staying that way due to scheduling until the 22nd hour. I crammed about 210 g of protein and about 100g of carbs in that window and was too full for the evening to continue.

My pre workout drink had no carbs. My intra workout drink had 30g cyclic dextrin. Clearly not enough

What are you doing for electrolytes?

Good catch. I did 2 scoops Redmond ReLyte pre and 2 more intra. But I do think I was generally dehydrated. Is that what you’re thinking?

-How much fat?

-What did you eat the day before and how much? What are your usual macros?

It’s not. I am thinking electrolyte imbalance vs dehydration

Sounds like you’re off to a solid start, man. Those squat/dead numbers are strong, especially coming back after a break. Upper body will catch up — 5/3/1 is great for that slow, steady build.

Totally get you on the bloat. Happens to me too when carbs and supps stack up. Once you throw in a bit of cardio or clean up the carbs, it usually evens out quick.

Thx bro. Did HIIT sprints the last 2 weeks on the recovery days (going for some soon actually). Total difference, bloat basically gone, stomach flattening out, and importantly staying fasted pre cardio and eating every 3 hours so after, especially right away post workout. No gimmicks.

RE Upper body : actually the bench is already moving positively up. I’m ripping reps on the AMRAP’s which is a great mental boost.

We have VERY different ideas on what recovery is…haha.

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I’m just following 5/3/1 sir

You don’t sprint on recovery days in 5/3/1. You could do that on the conditioning days, or as conditioning workouts after the lifting workouts, but recovery days are for recovery.

Sir, please see attached

Yeah, I agree: this is conditioning, not recovery.

Do legs ever get a chance to truly rest, and yet they’re the strongest muscles in our body. Did you play football growing up? Remember doing 2 or 3 a days with a morning lift baked in? I think the body can handle 15-20 minutes of intermittent sprints and then take the day off and eat a lot of food.

I think the body can handle a lot :slight_smile: During COVID, I trained 3-5 times a day, 7 days a week.

My comment is not about what the body can and cannot handle: I am speaking about what is a recovery day vs what is a conditioning day.

If I said “On my swim day, I play darts”, we would be in agreement that I’m not swimming on my swim day. “On my recovery day, I do sprints”, to me, saying either I’m not recovering on my recovery day OR I’m not sprinting when I sprint.

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That’s fair. So in my model, I am conditioning when I am not training, save for maybe one day a week, for the time being. I don’t think it’s necessary, to truly recover beyond that, for now. Are you suggesting at all that this is hindering gains in training?

I am not.

I apologize, I tried to make my initial statement very clear. I’m not suggesting anything, I am SAYING this

I don’t feel we disagree there either. You and I have very different ideas on what recovery is.

My current approach to training has me lifting weights 3x per week, conditioning 3x per week, and 1 day of recovery (walking and general activity with no dedicated training). It sounds similar to your own.

That’s not bad at all. Actually, doing a fast on the recovery day may actually do some good. Get some of the bs out of the blood and not feed what need not be fed.

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Funny enough, for me, that’s my 1 day a week where I eat a carb meal. I have it in the evening, and then start my hard training in the morning. But I could easily see fasting UNTIL that meal.

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