Let’s say you get TRT and get your range to 700-900, then want to get off.
Will the Doc give you a good PCT than your insurance will pay for?
Or will he just leave you to crash?
Could you get a sustainable test restoration like this?
I don’t get your question. Are you asking if you get on PCT (Clomid/Nolvadex) and get your levels up, and then go into the doctor, will he recommend you stay on and try to get your insurance to cover it to stay on? No. First, he will take you off everything and get a baseline reading. Then he’ll go from there. Also, your insurance will most likely not cover Clomid or Nolva just like they wouldn’t cover an AI.
I asked you on the other thread what your cycle was and how long ago you did it? Did you get pre-cycle bloods so you could make sure your PCT worked? Did you use HcG on cycle? Did you do a PCT?
It’s too late for me to tell you steroids are bad, mm Kay, but wherever you go, be honest with your doctor. Admit you messed up, take his proverbial bitching he will give you and Just say you’ll do whatever it takes
I’m sorry I meant TRT. If you get TRT and want tto get off will they give you restorative PCT?
[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
I’m sorry I meant TRT. If you get TRT and want tto get off will they give you restorative PCT?[/quote]
The doctor will give you the PCT if you discuss it with them usually. Your insurance will most likely not cover it.
The point of TRT is that your levels are low enough that it warrants staying on. Sometimes, they will stop it to see if your body tries to keep the levels, but it hardly ever works and you will need to stay on for the duration of your life or until you feel you no longer need it and are ok with all the sides of low T.
Never go into TRT as a “legal” way of running steroids. The two are completely different and approaching it from that angle will leave you dissappointed.
None of your posts make any sense, which leads me to believe you certainly had no business running a cycle of steroids (which Im sure you already knew) and you don’t have enough knowledge to adequately explain to a doctor why you need TRT.
You don’t “cycle” TRT. It is for life. There is no PCT involved with TRT. My question is if you are on a legitimate TRT plan and get your levels up to 700-900, why in the hell would you quit?
Realistically, your doctor won’t prescribe a PCT if you’re on TRT and want to get off. As VTBalla said, once you’re on, you’re on for life. Sometimes, people get off and have non-significantly higher levels…maybe 5-10% higher. Most that get off probably didn’t feel better because testosterone wasn’t the only reason they felt crappy or had built it up to be the cure-all and found it wasn’t. A PCT is like jumpstarting your engine with jumper cables. The question is whether the engine will keep running after you taper off.
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
None of your posts make any sense, which leads me to believe you certainly had no business running a cycle of steroids (which Im sure you already knew) and you don’t have enough knowledge to adequately explain to a doctor why you need TRT.
You don’t “cycle” TRT. It is for life. There is no PCT involved with TRT. My question is if you are on a legitimate TRT plan and get your levels up to 700-900, why in the hell would you quit?
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I’m going to do you a favor and just ignore your ignorant dickhead bullshit.
The benefits of producing testosterone endogenously in the 700-900 range versus being permanently reliant on exogenous application for the rest of your existence is pretty obvious.
What happens if you lose your job and your insurance runs out? Free fall to 11 year old girl mode? Because you’ve suppressed your natural T production so much that your basic level is 26… Or how bout if you go camping or have to go to war or whatever the hell would prevent you from being cared for by a doc like a tit to a baby. I’d rather have this mid range natural T now, than live permanently under a Doc’s needle to maintain my masculinity.
Yes, I realize that TRT is not a ‘cycle’, however the term PCT is fairly loosely thrown around to mean jump-start your hpta and putting your estrogen in order after a period of anabolic steroid use. If you want we can refer to it is as P(TRT)T so you can grasp the concept.
[quote]Icarus wrote:
[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
I’m sorry I meant TRT. If you get TRT and want tto get off will they give you restorative PCT?[/quote]
The doctor will give you the PCT if you discuss it with them usually. Your insurance will most likely not cover it.
The point of TRT is that your levels are low enough that it warrants staying on. Sometimes, they will stop it to see if your body tries to keep the levels, but it hardly ever works and you will need to stay on for the duration of your life or until you feel you no longer need it and are ok with all the sides of low T.
Never go into TRT as a “legal” way of running steroids. The two are completely different and approaching it from that angle will leave you dissappointed.
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I see it more as a legal way of perhaps jumpstarting my HPTA, but I guess I’m just going to have to go to Bolivia to in November to do that. As American doctors refuse to fix the problem and instead do the exact thing that got you there instead.
[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
None of your posts make any sense, which leads me to believe you certainly had no business running a cycle of steroids (which Im sure you already knew) and you don’t have enough knowledge to adequately explain to a doctor why you need TRT.
You don’t “cycle” TRT. It is for life. There is no PCT involved with TRT. My question is if you are on a legitimate TRT plan and get your levels up to 700-900, why in the hell would you quit?
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I’m going to do you a favor and just ignore your ignorant dickhead bullshit.
The benefits of producing testosterone endogenously in the 700-900 range versus being permanently reliant on exogenous application for the rest of your existence is pretty obvious.
What happens if you lose your job and your insurance runs out? Free fall to 11 year old girl mode? Because you’ve suppressed your natural T production so much that your basic level is 26… Or how bout if you go camping or have to go to war or whatever the hell would prevent you from being cared for by a doc like a tit to a baby. I’d rather have this mid range natural T now, than live permanently under a Doc’s needle to maintain my masculinity.
Yes, I realize that TRT is not a ‘cycle’, however the term PCT is fairly loosely thrown around to mean jump-start your hpta and putting your estrogen in order after a period of anabolic steroid use. If you want we can refer to it is as P(TRT)T so you can grasp the concept.
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I have no trouble grasping concepts, but the fact that you usually have to go back and edit most of your posts after hitting “submit” is telling of the fact that your communication skills are going to require a lot of work before the rest of society will ever take you seriously. Don’t get so butthurt.
Also given the fact that you are a known troll on the rest of the site, I’m surprised you’re getting any feedback at all. Have you altered any more of your awesome t-shirts there, celtics?
You speak about getting your T in the 700-900 range (presumably by exogenous T, although you were never able to clearly communicate that point) and getting it to stay there like it just requires a magical wand (which you ingeniously call PCT). This humors me. If it were that fucking easy, this forum wouldn’t exist.
Do you think the people here just happen to enjoy sticking themselves with needles 3 times and week and didn’t think about using a “PCT” to just make it “all better”. By god, you’re onto something!
And I would also love to hear your thoughts on why properly administered long-term TRT would be more apt to “crash your system to 12 year old girl levels after stopping” than a short term TRT plan where you would get your levels in the 700-900 range?
By your jumbled, oft-edited posts, it seems that you are asking if you could just do some test for a while (for some unknown reason) then just take a SERM (PCT in Rohynworld) and get your levels to stay where they are. The answer is out there, good luck finding it.
It’s not really worth it to get worked up over this. Good luck in Bolivia…¿como se dice “test-cyp” en español?