well hey guys i weigh at 190 to 200 pounds moving close to 400 pound deadlift can clean and jerk
220 pounds i heard that insulin don’t show on a drug test was thinking to use some around 4iu’s
a day for 8 weeks just post work out do you think i see some gains on the lifts? still just 18 years old this week
i haven’t attributed any of my strength increase to insulin use… but it will help you put on size, depending on how you use it, which will cause increases in strength… and it will help you recover from your workouts more quickly.
18 and you’re looking at using Insulin? facepalm just lift and eat YOU"RE 18! you have enough testosterone to make gains. just get on it.
[quote]akmcsnarfy wrote:
YOU"RE 18! you have enough testosterone to make gains. [/quote]
that’s a pretty big assumption
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]akmcsnarfy wrote:
YOU"RE 18! you have enough testosterone to make gains. [/quote]
that’s a pretty big assumption[/quote]
I’m not saying every 18YO but he mentioned no Low T/hormone problems. It’s easy to say the majority of 18YO males without problems have enough testosterone to make gains.
Regardless of your opinion on the above statement he doesn’t need to use Insulin for gains at 18
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
i haven’t attributed any of my strength increase to insulin use… but it will help you put on size, depending on how you use it, which will cause increases in strength… and it will help you recover from your workouts more quickly. [/quote]
how can i use it safely ? ty for any help how much ui and after work out only going to use maybe some thing for back up if something go wrong ty m8
Not ready for slin use. Also never recommend direct injectable slin use in general.
I wouldn’t recommend using insulin at this stage… you need to gain a greater understanding of diet and training to fully utilize its potential… the danger of insulin is not death (though that is a possibly… an extremely uncommon one however), it’s getting fat…hideously fat.
once your diet and training are absolutely 100% on point, then come back and ill be happy to answer your questions.
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
I wouldn’t recommend using insulin at this stage… you need to gain a greater understanding of diet and training to fully utilize its potential… the danger of insulin is not death (though that is a possibly… an extremely uncommon one however), it’s getting fat…hideously fat.
once your diet and training are absolutely 100% on point, then come back and ill be happy to answer your questions.[/quote]
well my diet and training are in 100% point i go on with the diet first i eat cereal in the morning and 2 scoops whey after 3hrs 2eggs and 4 egg whites + 2 whole wheat sandwitch slices
next gym and after 2 scoops whey and a banana next 300g chicken breast and 4 slices of whole wheat and same again after 3 hrs
now on training day one clean and jerk complex and jerks for 3 reps day 2 snatch complex snatch pulls 4 reps and standing shoulder press day 3 deadlifts 6-4 reps and bench same + pullups and gluthamraises rest and then again clean and jerk one power clean and push press and clean and jerk right after powerclean and power jerk and frount squats 4 reps day 5 snatch complex power snatch 3 reps after and snatch from defesit 2 reps day 6
squats same as deadlift and bench and goodmornings and some armwork
so pls tell me what i can change and 4 iu after traning is safe right? and telll me more about diet and stuf i can do ty 
diet is lacking some calories for sure
[quote]ty_ty13 wrote:
diet is lacking some calories for sure[/quote]
what do you recommend m8 then some help will be usefull 
Recipe for diabetic coma.
I highly recommend you wait a few. But in the meantime try the Nick Nolte B12 forum.
[quote]Westclock wrote:
Recipe for diabetic coma.[/quote]
ether going to say something good or don’t at all
[quote]conservativedog wrote:
I highly recommend you wait a few. But in the meantime try the Nick Nolte B12 forum. [/quote]
you are very funny got some info of gfo
[quote]blue spirit wrote:
[quote]Westclock wrote:
Recipe for diabetic coma.[/quote]
ether going to say something good or don’t at all[/quote]
Shit dude, you know what you are doing obviously. Just start pinning and see what happens.
Hey guys. Im new to T-Nation. I really need some advice on insulin. My stats are 25 years old. 15% bf. 211lbs. 5’10. Ive ran 4 aas cycles and was really interested in using insulin. I have a few bottles of novolog insulin.
Now, ive researched and researched and researched on insulin on different forums/websites. And honestly my mind is blown from so many different people saying this works, that does, that doesnt, ect. I really need help.
I want to run it for around 6 weeks. Starting out at a normal dose of 2ius PWO. I will be taking 60-80g of whey protein. With 5g of creatine mono as well as l-glutamine. The whole carb deal is what has me confused. Okay ive read 40g of simple carbs, ive read this guy takes cell tech afterwards. So i need advice on that. Then an hour later. A solid meal with protein and carbs. Like chicken/sweet potatoes.
Then how would i inject again. And how many times. Ive read first thing in the morning, PWO, then afternoon. I really need advice. As well as maybe in what a diet would roughly look like while taking insulin for bulking.
If someone would help me out id really appreciate it.
This post is just a simple guide for first time insulin users to follow in a safe, and effective manner.
I urge you to invest in a glucometer. This will give you a close estimation of where your BG(Blood Glucose) levels are (Safe Zone 70-90,but independent upon each individual).You want to take in adequate amounts of carbs, but not too much. As the excess will be stored as fat. And yes, if you aren’t careful, you can add quite a bit of excess body fat. As you’ll see in my dosing example below, we drop carbs slightly as to not to acquire excess BF.
As you already might know. The basic rule is 10g Dextrose to 1 iu of Insulin. Now the trick is to get in tune with your body so to take advantage of the insulin spike, which allows nutrients to be shuttled to the muscle cells rapidly, doing so without taking in excess carbs which equates to body fat.
Below is a 30 day cycle(which is recommended) for Insulin. I don’t use Insulin on off days from the gym. Some like to use Insulin on off days in the morning to fight off the catabolic state we’re in upon awakening. I feel upon awakening in the morning a shake consisting of Whey/Dextrose would be sufficient in bringing you out of this catabolic state from fasting over an 8 hour period while sleeping. Remember, you can become Insulin insensitive if abused. So by running insulin on training days only reduces that threat.
I’ll use the 5 day training split as an example here. That will give you 20 days “on” insulin.
Day 1 : 5 iu insulin/50g Dextrose
Day 2 : 5 iu insulin/50g Dextrose
Day 3 : 5 iu insulin/50g Dextrose
Congratulations!! You’ve survived thus far. I assume(hope) you’ve been monitoring your BG levels. You probably have noticed that you are in the higher range using 50g of dextrose PWO. Now it’s time to drop the carbs slightly. Donâ??t fret. This should be more than ample amounts(of carbs) to get you through to your PPWO meal.
Day 4 : 5 iu insulin/40g Dextrose
Day 5 : 5 iu insulin/40g Dextrose
At this point you should have a good idea of how you react with Insulin in terms of BG levels vs. carb intake .
Let’s up the dose:
Day 6 : 6 iu insulin/50g Dextrose
Day 7 : 6 iu insulin/50g Dextrose
By this point in time you should be feeling good(ie;more confident),but still respectful to Insulin. Let’s test the waters for 3 days to give you the feel of things. By that I mean we’ll drop the carb intake slightly so you can find a comfortable ratio in regards to iu’s vs. carbs per gram.
Day 8 : 6 iu insulin/40g Dextrose
Day 9 : 6 iu insulin/40g Dextrose
Day 10 : 6 iu insulin/40g Dextrose
Now, the above ratio’s are safe and effective. You can stop right here and continue on for the next 10 days at the above doses/ratio’s. Or you can move forward slightly.
Day 11 : 7 iu insulin/50g Dextrose
Day 12 : 7 iu insulin/50g Dextrose
Day 13 : 7 iu insulin/50g Dextrose
Day 14 : 7 iu insulin/50g Dextrose
Day 15 : & iu insulin/50g Dextrose
If you felt confident with the above protocol.You could experiment on days 14-15 and drop your dextrose to 40g.If you do so, please monitor your BG levels every 15 minutes or so. And have glucose tabs, or another source of quick carbs handy (like orange juice or maple syrup) to stave off any possible signs of hypoglycemia.
Don’t panic should this happen,just drink a glass of orange juice, or similar, and in 10 minutes the symptoms will have subsided.
Ok, on to your final week.
Day 16 : 8 iu insulin/60g Dextrose
Day 17 : 8 iu insulin/60g Dextrose
Day 18 : 8 iu insulin/60g Dextrose
Day 19 : 8 iu insulin/60g Dextrose
Day 20 : 8 iu insulin/60g Dextrose
Congratulations! You just completed your first cycle/experience with Insulin in a safe an effective manner. I stopped at 8 iu’s, Being that is enough to get your feet wet with the drug. You can experiment later on. This was simply a guide.