Inner City Publik Skool Bus

[quote]3hitter wrote:
That One Guy wrote:
Liv92 wrote:
conorh wrote:
Liv92 wrote:
And I’m not being racist for anyone that wants to dick eat. If I called some black kid the N word at school i’d probably get expelled. If some black kid called me a cracker it would be ignored. I don’t see how that’s fair.

I bet if that kid on the bus had the same personality and shit but was black, I highly doubt he would have gotten beat up.

Because the word “cracker” simply does not carry the same connotation that the word “nigger” does? What is so hard to understand about this? It’s the same reason that you can call your buddies “bitch” but dare not do it to random strangers. The context makes the message. You’re being an idiot if you really think being called a cracker is the same as calling a black person a nigger.

Your obviously an idiot. Also you obviously have never been called a cracker with real hate behind it.

Fine, I’ve never been called a cracker and will never know what it’s like, but the difference between you and I is that I UNDERSTAND that.

Lol…listen man. I’m just going to be frank with this. You will never know what it’s like to be black and be called a “nigger”. I know it sounds just like that south park episode, but it’s true. You’ll never “get it”. And pretending like you can or do is just wishful thinking. So just drop the subject, because this is just a lose/lose situation, BECAUSE of that very fact. Call me stupid, ignorant, hypocritical whatever, but say it to your computer screen and leave it at that. Don’t reply to this, or to any more of these posts and I’ll do the same. You need to realize that life is relative, and if you don’t then you will always stay ignorant towards certain subjects.

For clarification, and because I know this will probably be brought up, I’m not black. I’m Hispanic, and I’ve had my fair share of racial slurs thrown my way. There’s really no understanding it, unless you’ve been in the exact same shoes. I know there’s people that understand that. So let’s all just drop this FAIL subject before it gets any worse.

That is exactly why this will never stop. No one on either side wants to truly talk about it or see the other side. We can’t for what ever reason forget about the past and all say “Look we all as a group fucked up.” Now how about letting it go and moving forward from here?[/quote]

I don’t think there’s anything to talk about. Because we can’t know what it’s like to be someone else who is different than us because all we ever know, and ever will TRULY know, is to be ourselves. I think if we, as a species, could just understand that fact, then we can say, alright I don’t know what it’s like to be him, he doesn’t know what it’s like to be me, so that’s it. Only THEN, will we be able to say, “Look we all as a group fucked up.” Let’s move on.

[quote]That One Guy wrote:
Ct. Rockula wrote:
decapsk8 wrote:
ok forget race. y did know one help the kid out? what ever happened to helping your fellow man? no one helped. no one tried to break it up. it dosent matter if he has friends or not. white, black, mexican, whatever, someone should have helped this kid out.

there’s a mob presence

a phenomena that happens in situations like this

the name escapes me

but its simply when tragedy occurs and power isnt immediately assumed people will stand around doing nothing

they’ll expect “that guy” to start giving orders…but in a simiar situation if alone most people in in the group will help

i can’t find the video of that old guy that was hit by a car and people kept walk, that is a really good example

Mhmmm learned about it in psych class. Everyone expects “somebody else” to take care of it.
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that makes sense. i guess there are a lot of people like that out there. i on the other hand have been lookin for that “dare to be great” situation all my life. im sure thats a big reason i spend time in the gym too.

[quote]Liv92 wrote:
If I called some black kid the N word at school i’d probably get expelled. If some black kid called me a cracker it would be ignored. I don’t see how that’s fair.
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Oh boy, ruined m’dey!! Shouldn’t have called me a cracker! Brings me back to ownin’ land and people.

[quote]That One Guy wrote:
3hitter wrote:
That One Guy wrote:
Liv92 wrote:
conorh wrote:
Liv92 wrote:
And I’m not being racist for anyone that wants to dick eat. If I called some black kid the N word at school i’d probably get expelled. If some black kid called me a cracker it would be ignored. I don’t see how that’s fair.

I bet if that kid on the bus had the same personality and shit but was black, I highly doubt he would have gotten beat up.

Because the word “cracker” simply does not carry the same connotation that the word “nigger” does? What is so hard to understand about this? It’s the same reason that you can call your buddies “bitch” but dare not do it to random strangers. The context makes the message. You’re being an idiot if you really think being called a cracker is the same as calling a black person a nigger.

Your obviously an idiot. Also you obviously have never been called a cracker with real hate behind it.

Fine, I’ve never been called a cracker and will never know what it’s like, but the difference between you and I is that I UNDERSTAND that.

Lol…listen man. I’m just going to be frank with this. You will never know what it’s like to be black and be called a “nigger”. I know it sounds just like that south park episode, but it’s true. You’ll never “get it”. And pretending like you can or do is just wishful thinking. So just drop the subject, because this is just a lose/lose situation, BECAUSE of that very fact. Call me stupid, ignorant, hypocritical whatever, but say it to your computer screen and leave it at that. Don’t reply to this, or to any more of these posts and I’ll do the same. You need to realize that life is relative, and if you don’t then you will always stay ignorant towards certain subjects.

For clarification, and because I know this will probably be brought up, I’m not black. I’m Hispanic, and I’ve had my fair share of racial slurs thrown my way. There’s really no understanding it, unless you’ve been in the exact same shoes. I know there’s people that understand that. So let’s all just drop this FAIL subject before it gets any worse.

That is exactly why this will never stop. No one on either side wants to truly talk about it or see the other side. We can’t for what ever reason forget about the past and all say “Look we all as a group fucked up.” Now how about letting it go and moving forward from here?

I don’t think there’s anything to talk about. Because we can’t know what it’s like to be someone else who is different than us because all we ever know, and ever will TRULY know, is to be ourselves. I think if we, as a species, could just understand that fact, then we can say, alright I don’t know what it’s like to be him, he doesn’t know what it’s like to be me, so that’s it. Only THEN, will we be able to say, “Look we all as a group fucked up.” Let’s move on.[/quote]

Yep. I will never stop…

Kid got his ass beat for no reason. I hate this part of high school.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
polo77j wrote:
Liv92 wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
Liv92 wrote:
And I’m not being racist for anyone that wants to dick eat. If I called some black kid the N word at school i’d probably get expelled. If some black kid called me a cracker it would be ignored. I don’t see how that’s fair.

I bet if that kid on the bus had the same personality and shit but was black, I highly doubt he would have gotten beat up.

You sound like a 15 year old.

You sound like a troll.

Actually he sounds like a dwarf…you should really get that right; i know most dwarfs take offense when you call them trolls…it’s not very PC

LOL! Got my back there, Polo!

Actually, Liv92 doesn’t offend me. Even getting called “goddamm motherfuckin’ white motherfucker” one time when I lived in the Philly ghetto didn’t phase me. No reference point, no bad history, so no pain.
Any white guy who gets his feathers ruffled at being called cracker, whitey, honky, or similar, is a pussy.
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That’s exactly the point I was making. I don’t see how any white person can possibly equate a racial epitath for whites to those for blacks. Maybe there’s a place somewhere where whites were traded as cattle and systematically denied basic rights of personhood for hundreds of years where the wound of “cracker” or “honky” is deep… but not here.

[quote]conorh wrote:

That’s exactly the point I was making. I don’t see how any white person can possibly equate a racial epitath [/quote]

Because they’re both racial epithets?

i’m going to quote Chris Rock on this one and say “I love black people, but I hate ni**ers.” and it seems that this bus is full of the later. I hate this because it seems to just be perpetuating stereotypes, and I don’t care what race you are, if you get that pissed over sitting next to someone or a fucking seat then you are retarded.

[quote]That One Guy wrote:
Liv92 wrote:
conorh wrote:
Liv92 wrote:
And I’m not being racist for anyone that wants to dick eat. If I called some black kid the N word at school i’d probably get expelled. If some black kid called me a cracker it would be ignored. I don’t see how that’s fair.

I bet if that kid on the bus had the same personality and shit but was black, I highly doubt he would have gotten beat up.

Because the word “cracker” simply does not carry the same connotation that the word “nigger” does? What is so hard to understand about this? It’s the same reason that you can call your buddies “bitch” but dare not do it to random strangers. The context makes the message. You’re being an idiot if you really think being called a cracker is the same as calling a black person a nigger.

Your obviously an idiot. Also you obviously have never been called a cracker with real hate behind it.

Fine, I’ve never been called a cracker and will never know what it’s like, but the difference between you and I is that I UNDERSTAND that.

Lol…listen man. I’m just going to be frank with this. You will never know what it’s like to be black and be called a “nigger”. I know it sounds just like that south park episode, but it’s true. You’ll never “get it”. And pretending like you can or do is just wishful thinking. So just drop the subject, because this is just a lose/lose situation, BECAUSE of that very fact.

Call me stupid, ignorant, hypocritical whatever, but say it to your computer screen and leave it at that. Don’t reply to this, or to any more of these posts and I’ll do the same. You need to realize that life is relative, and if you don’t then you will always stay ignorant towards certain subjects.

For clarification, and because I know this will probably be brought up, I’m not black. I’m Hispanic, and I’ve had my fair share of racial slurs thrown my way. There’s really no understanding it, unless you’ve been in the exact same shoes. I know there’s people that understand that. So let’s all just drop this FAIL subject before it gets any worse.[/quote]

It is only a powerful word because you choose to give it power.

[quote]conorh wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
polo77j wrote:
Liv92 wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
Liv92 wrote:
And I’m not being racist for anyone that wants to dick eat. If I called some black kid the N word at school i’d probably get expelled. If some black kid called me a cracker it would be ignored. I don’t see how that’s fair.

I bet if that kid on the bus had the same personality and shit but was black, I highly doubt he would have gotten beat up.

You sound like a 15 year old.

You sound like a troll.

Actually he sounds like a dwarf…you should really get that right; i know most dwarfs take offense when you call them trolls…it’s not very PC

LOL! Got my back there, Polo!

Actually, Liv92 doesn’t offend me. Even getting called “goddamm motherfuckin’ white motherfucker” one time when I lived in the Philly ghetto didn’t phase me. No reference point, no bad history, so no pain.
Any white guy who gets his feathers ruffled at being called cracker, whitey, honky, or similar, is a pussy.

That’s exactly the point I was making. I don’t see how any white person can possibly equate a racial epitath for whites to those for blacks. Maybe there’s a place somewhere where whites were traded as cattle and systematically denied basic rights of personhood for hundreds of years where the wound of “cracker” or “honky” is deep… but not here.
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But slavery is not purely a black / white thing. Black tribes kept other black tribes as slaves, Romans kept Northern European’s as slaves. Certain Meso-American tribes kept other Meso-American’s as slaves. European’s kept Meso-American’s as slaves. European’s kept other European’s as slaves.

Slavery is a hateful truth of our past, it is also something that is going on today. White women and Asian women are being sold into sex slavery in the US today.

Yes the slavery of Africans by White European’s and American’s was horrific. Thankfully it is over. It should not be forgotten, but people should move on.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Actually, Liv92 doesn’t offend me. Even getting called “goddamm motherfuckin’ white motherfucker” one time when I lived in the Philly ghetto didn’t phase me. No reference point, no bad history, so no pain.
Any white guy who gets his feathers ruffled at being called cracker, whitey, honky, or similar, is a pussy.
[/quote]

That’s the thing - I have no reference point or reason to get offended by being called a honky, whitey or similar. Those are racial slurs in the US, not where I come from.

The only time I ever use the word “Nigger” is when quoting a line from a movie. It definitely has no intention of offense behind it.

[quote]3hitter wrote:
Pretzel Logic wrote:
tom63 wrote:
heavythrower wrote:

This from a guy that didn’t have a single African - American or Hispanic - American in his cabinet!!

By the way, why must people hyphenate their nationality? Can’t we just be American?[/quote]

Ha every form I fill out I have to check the box that says caucasian. I thought I was Alsatian-American. Little did I know I was from Caucasia.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
polo77j wrote:
Liv92 wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
Liv92 wrote:

Actually, Liv92 doesn’t offend me. Even getting called “goddamm motherfuckin’ white motherfucker” one time when I lived in the Philly ghetto didn’t phase me. No reference point, no bad history, so no pain.
Any white guy who gets his feathers ruffled at being called cracker, whitey, honky, or similar, is a pussy.
[/quote]

Same should apply for any other race. It’s seems that people are just looking to offend someone or find a reason to be offended.

[quote]younggully wrote:
Liv92 wrote:
BlackLabel wrote:
If it were the other way around this would have been “racially motivated”.

Exactly. Black people get away with so much stuff its not even fair. It’s okay for a black person to call us cracker and all that shit… but lord forgive us if we say the “N word.”

Why would you want to say the N word? Just curious, why would that even be remotely in your thoughts? Why not jerk, or asshole? [/quote]

Because the point of calling someone a name is to elicit a reaction from that person. “Jerk” isn’t going to be very effective in that respect. That’s like saying why call someone a fucking cocksucker when you could just call them a peabrain instead.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
polo77j wrote:
Liv92 wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
Liv92 wrote:
And I’m not being racist for anyone that wants to dick eat. If I called some black kid the N word at school i’d probably get expelled. If some black kid called me a cracker it would be ignored. I don’t see how that’s fair.

I bet if that kid on the bus had the same personality and shit but was black, I highly doubt he would have gotten beat up.

You sound like a 15 year old.

You sound like a troll.

Actually he sounds like a dwarf…you should really get that right; i know most dwarfs take offense when you call them trolls…it’s not very PC

LOL! Got my back there, Polo!

Actually, Liv92 doesn’t offend me. Even getting called “goddamm motherfuckin’ white motherfucker” one time when I lived in the Philly ghetto didn’t phase me. No reference point, no bad history, so no pain.
Any white guy who gets his feathers ruffled at being called cracker, whitey, honky, or similar, is a pussy.
[/quote]

Exactly, so why is it that countingbeans can get all butt hurt when I call someone brown? I have brown friends too ya know :slight_smile:

If a black guy calls me white boy, I definitely don’t take offense. People these days are just looking for a reason to be offended, and all the PC baloney isn’t helping

[quote]Liv92 wrote:
conorh wrote:
Liv92 wrote:
And I’m not being racist for anyone that wants to dick eat. If I called some black kid the N word at school i’d probably get expelled. If some black kid called me a cracker it would be ignored. I don’t see how that’s fair.

I bet if that kid on the bus had the same personality and shit but was black, I highly doubt he would have gotten beat up.

Because the word “cracker” simply does not carry the same connotation that the word “nigger” does? What is so hard to understand about this? It’s the same reason that you can call your buddies “bitch” but dare not do it to random strangers. The context makes the message. You’re being an idiot if you really think being called a cracker is the same as calling a black person a nigger.

Your obviously an idiot. Also you obviously have never been called a cracker with real hate behind it.
[/quote]

I have never been called a cracker with real hate behind it, but I would probably not take it too well, so I agree with you. Come to think of it, I’ve never really thought of using words like cracker, nigger or something else derogatory. I do notice when people say them though.

Iron Dwarf, If you let people call you something with real hate behind it, you have your own issues to deal with. Labeling individuals as pussy’s when they get offended gives people like you a free pass to be spineless.

Honestly I never saw anything like that in high school. I’ve never seen a kid just sit there and take shots like that. Getting your ass kicked is one thing, but being too timid to even try to fight back is just fucking pathetic.

EDIT: The racial part is really outweighed by the fact that the white kid is, to me, a further example of how weak and spineless people are becoming.

my skool is mostly black
im black but what does being black have to do with fighting. honestly im not gonna defend my own race. theres a fight atleast everyday and they all look like like there swatting at bees. theres only like 2 real white kids and like 5 real black kids. n there my crew.

i call white people nigga not cracka
i dnt give a rats ass bout racism. my white friend will call me nigger n i laugh. the fake ass black kids wud get offended n than they wud go listen to faggot ass mainstream shit

[quote]deadlift655 wrote:
Iron Dwarf, If you let people call you something with real hate behind it, you have your own issues to deal with. Labeling individuals as pussy’s when they get offended gives people like you a free pass to be spineless. [/quote]

Spineless? Hardly.
My feathers don’t get ruffled at being called names. I don’t care if there’s anger behind those words or not. I’m not at a point in my life where I’m so insecure as to react violently by words driven by insecurity.

My heritage allows me a free pass because any words thrown my way have no connotation to events passed. To react to such words would be exactly what my detractors would want.

Call me anything you want. But lay a hand on me and things will be quite different.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
deadlift655 wrote:
Iron Dwarf, If you let people call you something with real hate behind it, you have your own issues to deal with. Labeling individuals as pussy’s when they get offended gives people like you a free pass to be spineless.

Spineless? Hardly.
My feathers don’t get ruffled at being called names. I don’t care if there’s anger behind those words or not. I’m not at a point in my life where I’m so insecure as to react violently by words driven by insecurity.

My heritage allows me a free pass because any words thrown my way have no connotation to events passed. To react to such words would be exactly what my detractors would want.

Call me anything you want. But lay a hand on me and things will be quite different.
[/quote]

Well not everyone is like you. The school I go to is mostly all blacks. And some black kids really take advantage of that and call you cracker, and “whyte boi” it’s really annoying. It doesn’t matter that we were not inslaved by blacks its still offending. So if some one calls you a fucking pussy you don’t get offended one bit?

Another thing that pisses me (kinda I guess) is “your kinda cute for a white boy” wtf does that mean? that white people are ugly???