Injury Pathology and 'Assistance' Components Evaluated

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So here’s the lowdown on what I have, and I would like intelligent opinions from you guys on the components I have gathered, and if they seem appropriate for the pathology.

While it’s easy to realize that the following will benefit general collagen synth/connective tissue repair in different subcategories, it’s not so easy to figure out which are really going to be beneficial and not contraindictive to this specific pathology that I will be having surgery to repair later at the end of Sept or early October.

I have been cruising around pubmed and other places and I haven’t been able to determine if any of these pose a possible “negative” instead of positive affect on the clavicle after it’s been “ressected” surgically.

Is there any possible way that using the following could possibly add bone back to the clavicle after the “softened” and resorbed bone has been shaved off post surgery? Undesirable obviously.

Or threaten the recovery process in any way?

I just want to make sure I’m not overlooking something here. I also don’t seem to be able to uncover specifically which collagen types are promoted by each compound except for general “assumptions” that are floating around out there. Anyone have a book on steroids with these facts on them out there, or otherwise informed on the subject that could shed some light on this?

Serious and thought out opinions wanted please.

Here’s what I have aquired once more.

  1. Big Daddy- HGH (200iu)
  2. Next in line-EQ(40-50ml@200mg/ml)
  3. Next-Anavar(60 caps@30mg/cap)
  4. Exo test-200mg/week Test enanthate (20-40ml@250mg/ml)

The test is to keep my endo levels of test from dropping to low, and at the same time, not be too high a dose in doing so,(over 200mg/week) which would inhibit collagen synthesis.

Thanks guys,

ToneBone

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[quote]AlteredState wrote:
Well if you have distal clavicle osteolysis, then its osteoblasts you want to stimulate primarily, no?

GH will do this.

I would be cautious with the EQ, simply because it’s appetite promoting effects might cause one to become a bit of a bloater :wink:

I take it the docs have given you no indication of why you have the condition?

DO you have it unilaterally or bilaterally?

I wish I could observe and asses and rehab you, but alas, ubnless you happen to have a handy teleportation device, that’s not gonna happen.[/quote]

Correct kind sir,

Yes I’ll have to watch the appetite on the eq too, :slight_smile:

The doc said that it just “happens” as a result of microtrauma from heavy benching/overhead lifting in weightlifters frequently, some sooner than others. While uncommon, it is happening more frequently as a result of the popularity of weightlifting recently.

That force generated from those particular lifts, especially the bench, comes together right on the end of the clavicle there, and the latest most accepted theory is that there are many tiny micro fractures that occur in the bone, and somehow leads to the disease, and this absorbing of calcium/bone as a result. Then the bone hypertrophys as it self absorbs,(weird!), and the end result of that is the lack of space in the ac joint at the end of the clavicle. Then you have the pain and disruption of the ROM in daily activities and lifting etc.

So the hope and result of the surgery is that once a cm or so is shaved off the end, there won’t be the lack of space and pressures on the distal end of the clavicle, and the forces will be reduced to where it won’t stimulate this cycle of self absorption anymore.

I would think that the gh would help the osteoblasts function properly and efficiently then yes?
WOuldn’t want the bone to grow too much though, so that the space becomes too small again. I don’t know if that would happen or not, lol.

The only thing that bugs me a bit is that to do the surgery a couple of smaller “connections” in the ac joint,(tendon/ligament), have to go bye-bye to do the damn thing. For the majority of patients, this doesn’t pose a problem and the ac joint stays solid and intact well with the remaining more prominent connections and muscle etc.

Thank you for stopping by, I was hoping you had something to say about this.

ToneBone

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[quote]AlteredState wrote:
You might want to look into home prolotherapy to strengthen ligaments, post surgery.

It is something that I want to look into myself, both for myself and for patients.[/quote]

I recall posting on that a couple years ago, and no one responded, lol. I will have to pass on the home admin for now, lot’s of shit going on already, but keep me informed on your venture into it if you would please.

Cheers.