Troll.
You are really showing a lack of understanding about the job of president. The presidency is all about management. A good manager knows how to delegate responsibility and is willing to.
There is a lot of important business that crosses the presidents desk in a day, it is not like he has all day to sift through endless google searches. That is what staff is there for, they do the research. The country has functioned for over two hundred years without google, it really is not essential.
It is almost impossible for me to believe that this guy is standing fast on the notion of the public internet as a presidential resource without which North America will certainly be imperiled.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Most of the bills, before the President are the same bills before the Senate, and most of those are not classified, Most of them you and I could find out all about them through Google. Most require accurate info to make good judgments about. So this B.S. about everything the president does is classified is untrue
Where do you think the info John McCain�??s info comes from? He has a question, he delegates the search of this question to a staffer who in turn turns on his computer and searches on (presidents r us .com) I can not believe you think the Senate or the president would use anything better than the internet. What other resource would be better than the internet? Seriously?
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What the president gets from his advisors and resources are not details, but high level analysis and recommendations. While the information that forms the basis for the analysis may or may not be classified and available on the internet, the analysis they provide the president is not found on the internet.
[quote]doogie wrote:
He can’t work at a normal computer because of his injuries, dipshit.
From the Boston Globe (March 4, 2000):
McCain gets emotional at the mention of military families needing food stamps or veterans lacking health care. The outrage comes from inside: McCain’s severe war injuries prevent him from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes. Friends marvel at McCain’s encyclopedic knowledge of sports. He’s an avid fan - Ted Williams is his hero - but he can’t raise his arm above his shoulder to throw a baseball.
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When I took in all of this, I kind of sort of wanted to kick Barrack Obama in the nads.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
It is almost impossible for me to believe that this guy is standing fast on the notion of the public internet as a presidential resource without which North America will certainly be imperiled.
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What he doesn’t get, I think, is that there is a hierarchy of knowledge. He doesn’t get that there is a difference between knowing facts (Google), and knowing how to analyze and synthesize facts to evaluate an outcome (See, Bloom’s Taxonomy of Cognitive Outcomes).
[quote]AynRandLuvr wrote:
McCain gets emotional at the mention of military families needing food stamps or veterans lacking health care. The outrage comes from inside: McCain’s severe war injuries prevent him from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes. Friends marvel at McCain’s encyclopedic knowledge of sports. He’s an avid fan - Ted Williams is his hero - but he can’t raise his arm above his shoulder to throw a baseball.
When I took in all of this, I kind of sort of wanted to kick Barrack Obama in the nads.
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It isn’t BHOs problem that McCain got unlucky in his fighter-jet. A real hero would have died trying to fight those commie bastards with his bare hands and come home in a flag-draped coffin.
I’m sure these guys could help McCain with Google if he ever gets stuck:
I am sure they have data bases that clearance is required, they probably back it up on stone tablets 
Cracking a yahoo mail account is no great feat of L33T sk1lz. No public official would use an online account for anything very confidential or important which she didn’t.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Cracking a yahoo mail account is no great feat of L33T sk1lz. No public official would use an online account for anything very confidential or important which she didn’t.[/quote]
My point was not that any one with any intelligence in our Gov. would use Yahoo mail service. My point was our government uses all the same services we use only they have more service available than we as regular people have. I am trying to point out what a weakness it is to not understand how a computer or the internet works. Which bring us back to the original post
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Cracking a yahoo mail account is no great feat of L33T sk1lz. No public official would use an online account for anything very confidential or important which she didn’t.[/quote]
How do you think they got in? Brute forcing the password?
If it’s easy, then let’s speculate on how to do it.
^ Alternatively, let’s not. The sort of people that hacked Palin’s email are almost certainly the same type of people that are just horrified that the .gov would dare mine for information in calls from US citizen’s to suspected terrorists overseas. Hypocrisy is a hell of a drug. I don’t care how the assholes got into her email account. They are just as good as common thieves in my opinion. Fuck 'em and let 'em eat fish heads.
As for the premise of this entire thread, it’s dumb. Do you really think any President just sits around googling info about topics that he wants to know? Sheer idiocy. I can guarantee that every president for the last century or more has been 100% AWASH in information, both classified and not all day and all night for most of their carreers. Nobody is going to tell me that McCain’s disability will in any way hinder his ability to carry out the duties of his office. If you come up with a real argument about his policies or ANYTHING remotely substantial, let us know about it.
[quote]MrRezister wrote:
^ Alternatively, let’s not. The sort of people that hacked Palin’s email are almost certainly the same type of people that are just horrified that the .gov would dare mine for information in calls from US citizen’s to suspected terrorists overseas.
Hypocrisy is a hell of a drug. I don’t care how the assholes got into her email account. They are just as good as common thieves in my opinion. Fuck 'em and let 'em eat fish heads.
As for the premise of this entire thread, it’s dumb. Do you really think any President just sits around googling info about topics that he wants to know?
Sheer idiocy. I can guarantee that every president for the last century or more has been 100% AWASH in information, both classified and not all day and all night for most of their carreers. Nobody is going to tell me that McCain’s disability will in any way hinder his ability to carry out the duties of his office.
If you come up with a real argument about his policies or ANYTHING remotely substantial, let us know about it.[/quote]
Where would the president get the information on what is the population of Wasilla Alaska? And what are the latitude and longitude? Who is the mayor? What is the major industry? How would all this be formatted? The computer is the logical tool.
It would be more efficient to even delegate the questions to some one else on the computer. Why do you think corporate America is using the internet for everything , Banking , Credit cards , Insurance and the like I do not understand why he isn�??t considered to be retarded in a relative sense of the word.
You… what?
You understand that McCain KNOWS what the internet is and how it works, right? You understand that he’s not an idiot who looks at a computer as though it’s a tv with a typewriter attached, don’t you?
HE’S FUCKING UNABLE TO HOLD HIS ARMS UP LONG ENOUGH TO TYPE BECAUSE HE WAS IN A NORTH KOREAN PRISONER OF WAR CAMP FOR 5 YEARS.
Jesus Christ, do you think Clinton sat around googling “How to lie under oath” or “what does ‘is’ mean”? The President of the United States does NOT get his information from the internet. Please stop trolling.
[quote]MrRezister wrote:
You… what?
You understand that McCain KNOWS what the internet is and how it works, right? You understand that he’s not an idiot who looks at a computer as though it’s a tv with a typewriter attached, don’t you?
HE’S FUCKING UNABLE TO HOLD HIS ARMS UP LONG ENOUGH TO TYPE BECAUSE HE WAS IN A NORTH KOREAN PRISONER OF WAR CAMP FOR 5 YEARS.
Jesus Christ, do you think Clinton sat around googling “How to lie under oath” or “what does ‘is’ mean”? The President of the United States does NOT get his information from the internet. Please stop trolling.[/quote]
[quote]MrRezister wrote:
You… what?
You understand that McCain KNOWS what the internet is and how it works, right? You understand that he’s not an idiot who looks at a computer as though it’s a tv with a typewriter attached, don’t you?
HE’S FUCKING UNABLE TO HOLD HIS ARMS UP LONG ENOUGH TO TYPE BECAUSE HE WAS IN A NORTH KOREAN PRISONER OF WAR CAMP FOR 5 YEARS.
Jesus Christ, do you think Clinton sat around googling “How to lie under oath” or “what does ‘is’ mean”? The President of the United States does NOT get his information from the internet. Please stop trolling.[/quote]
He was in a North Vietnamese prison, I read the part about him not being able to comb his hair, but if he were to contact me I will build him an apparatus so he can comb his own hair, and for a slight charge I will work on an apparatus so he can use the computer. How does Stephen Hawkins use a computer? And don�??t tell me he doesn�??t
Our president�??s job is to make informed decisions on a vast scope of problems and most require not only how the knowledge of the best technology can help to make the decisions but also many decisions are about that same technology
[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Cracking a yahoo mail account is no great feat of L33T sk1lz. No public official would use an online account for anything very confidential or important which she didn’t.
How do you think they got in? Brute forcing the password?
If it’s easy, then let’s speculate on how to do it.[/quote]
Probably, but I don’t know.
Brute force/dictionary attack. I wouldn’t be shocked if she used a weak password (lots of non techie users do) in which case standard cracking methods would defeat the login. Other ways would involve accessing yahoos servers directly which would be a lot more difficult (I hope).
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Our president’s job is to make informed decisions on a vast scope of problems and most require not only how the knowledge of the best technology can help to make the decisions but also many decisions are about that same technology
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So why do you assume that a person who you know is physically unable to use such technology must therefore be completely ignorant about every aspect of it?
That’s about as stupid as saying that someone who is physically unable to drive a car must not know how to change the oil. In other words, your argument is completely worthless.