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[quote]PGJ wrote:

Actually, a DC (doctor of chiropractic) and a DO (doctor of osteopathy), are pretty much equally qualified. The only real difference is that DCs have a bigger ‘bag of tricks’ because we are qualified to take and interpret x-rays, whereas DOs are not.

At least, thats how it works here in the UK, and I understand that there are some shockingly bad DCs over there in the US…

bushy

Not even close. A D.O. is an actual medical doctor (medical school, residency, the whole thing). A chiropractor is more like a Physical Therapist (never heard of a DC), yes he has a lot of training, but he is not a doctor.
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This is chintsy, but a D.O. is not a medical doctor, ie not an MD. They do go through school but it is D.O. school, NOT medical school. It is similar but they focus on movement patterns and manipulations of the body more than MDs. However, after residency, I doubt an MD would be any better trained than a D.O.

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Well how about this pic.
Can’t win them all but I do believe in massage therapy and how a good massage can help you to become better or just feel better. If anything I got people thinking about all this and doing some research on massage.
God Bless and take care
Robert Amador CMT
P.S I didn’t post about massage to be made fun of but to offer other ways to stop pain rather than use drugs or just to live through the pain.

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[quote]PharmD Pete wrote:
PGJ wrote:

Actually, a DC (doctor of chiropractic) and a DO (doctor of osteopathy), are pretty much equally qualified. The only real difference is that DCs have a bigger ‘bag of tricks’ because we are qualified to take and interpret x-rays, whereas DOs are not.

At least, thats how it works here in the UK, and I understand that there are some shockingly bad DCs over there in the US…

bushy

Not even close. A D.O. is an actual medical doctor (medical school, residency, the whole thing). A chiropractor is more like a Physical Therapist (never heard of a DC), yes he has a lot of training, but he is not a doctor.

This is chintsy, but a D.O. is not a medical doctor, ie not an MD. They do go through school but it is D.O. school, NOT medical school. It is similar but they focus on movement patterns and manipulations of the body more than MDs. However, after residency, I doubt an MD would be any better trained than a D.O.[/quote]

You are wrong. M.D. and D.O. are the ONLY two types of physicians recognized in the USA. They both go to full-on medical school. Both are doctors. They just have different specialties. Trust me, my dad is a D.O.

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[quote]PGJ wrote:

Not even close. A D.O. is an actual medical doctor (medical school, residency, the whole thing). A chiropractor is more like a Physical Therapist (never heard of a DC), yes he has a lot of training, but he is not a doctor.
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You have a lot to learn.

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[quote]BigBobAmador wrote:

By the way the reason I’m called Big Bob wasn’t because I was in prison but because I am a former powerlifter and the folks in the gym just called me Big Bob rather than my Christian name that my mother gave me which is Robert. God bless and if you get a chance try massage and if you are a guy and don’t want another man to touch you then don’t!
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I don’t call him Big Bob. His momma don’t call him Big Bob. His momma call him Robert. If his momma call him Robert, I call him Robert.

DB

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Bob how long have you been practicing massage therapy? How often do you recommend a deep tissue massage? Is it normal to gwet bruising after a deep tissue massage?

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[quote]BigBobAmador wrote:
Well how about this pic.
Can’t win them all but I do believe in massage therapy and how a good massage can help you to become better or just feel better. If anything I got people thinking about all this and doing some research on massage.
God Bless and take care
Robert Amador CMT
P.S I didn’t post about massage to be made fun of but to offer other ways to stop pain rather than use drugs or just to live through the pain.[/quote]

You may not have posted to get made fun of, but it was bound to happen. Even the most serious post can get made fun of on the internet.

A guy a while back posted about his dog dying and people were messin’ with him. Unreal.

Anyways, I have only ever had two massages, one by a female and one by a male. The one by the male was far better because he was stronger.

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[quote]S-Lifter wrote:
PGJ wrote:

Not even close. A D.O. is an actual medical doctor (medical school, residency, the whole thing). A chiropractor is more like a Physical Therapist (never heard of a DC), yes he has a lot of training, but he is not a doctor.

You have a lot to learn.
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Teach me. Chiropractors are not recognized medical physicians. M.D. and D.O.'s are. Am I wrong?

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Massage therapy is great. I am a massage therapist, too, but haven’t worked in a couple of years to stay home with the kids. I don’t post much about it on here because I don’t like hearing all the “happy ending” jokes, etc.

One thing I like to remind people is that every therapist has a different style and you need to find the one that works for you. You shouldn’t hesitate to tell them what type of pressure you prefer, what areas need extra attention and give feedback during the session so it can be tailored to you and your needs on that particular day.

Sometimes you need specific, deep work to break up adhesions or address a problem area, sometimes you need a more fullbody, relaxing, soothing session to help recharge your batteries.

The most common comment I would get from first-timers is “Why didn’t I do this sooner!?”

I was a member of AMTA. Their website has a therapist locator page at http://www.amtamassage.org/findamassage/locator.htm if anyone is interested.

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[quote]PGJ wrote:
PharmD Pete wrote:
PGJ wrote:

Actually, a DC (doctor of chiropractic) and a DO (doctor of osteopathy), are pretty much equally qualified. The only real difference is that DCs have a bigger ‘bag of tricks’ because we are qualified to take and interpret x-rays, whereas DOs are not.

At least, thats how it works here in the UK, and I understand that there are some shockingly bad DCs over there in the US…

bushy

Not even close. A D.O. is an actual medical doctor (medical school, residency, the whole thing). A chiropractor is more like a Physical Therapist (never heard of a DC), yes he has a lot of training, but he is not a doctor.

This is chintsy, but a D.O. is not a medical doctor, ie not an MD. They do go through school but it is D.O. school, NOT medical school. It is similar but they focus on movement patterns and manipulations of the body more than MDs. However, after residency, I doubt an MD would be any better trained than a D.O.

You are wrong. M.D. and D.O. are the ONLY two types of physicians recognized in the USA. They both go to full-on medical school. Both are doctors. They just have different specialties. Trust me, my dad is a D.O.

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I understand that they are both recognized as medical physicians, what I am saying is that a D.O. is not an M.D. They attend different schools to earn their respective degrees. I am not arguing that D.O.s are not as qualified, all I am saying is that there is a difference in their training.

For example there is no D.O. school at U of Iowa, but there is a medical school. And vice versa there is no med school in Des Moines but there is a D.O. school.

I have 2 friends who are doctors now, the only difference is one is an MD and the other is a DO.

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My cousin is in DO school right now and I looked into it myself. The schools do have different philosophies/approaches but it is my understanding that a DO MUST learn everything an MD does, plus the Osteopathic manipulation. The thing is, when they do residencies and then when they practice, DOs can basically choose to become MDs.

I had one DO tell me flat out that he was EXACTLY like an MD (because he chose to practice that way, no ost. manip. etc.)
There is, off course, politics between the AMA and DOs so DOs want to be seen as being as legitimate as MDs. There is also the fact that some people see Osteopathy as a back door into medicine if they are unable to attend prestigious medical colleges, they may be able to get into an osteopathic school because these have been traditionally more interested in serving rural populations and often take older and non-traditional students.

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Osteopathic medicine (formerly known as osteopathy) is “a complete system of medical care with a philosophy that combines the needs of the patient with current practice of medicine, surgery and obstetrics. The emphasis is on the interrelationship between structure and function, and has an appreciation of the body?s ability to heal itself.” [1] Outside the United States, “osteopathic medicine” is often used interchangeably with “osteopathy”.

Doctors of Osteopathic Medicine, or D.O.s, are trained to apply the philosophy of treating the whole person (a holistic approach) to the prevention, diagnosis and treatment of illness, disease and injury using conventional medical practice such as drugs and surgery, along with manual therapy (Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine or OMM).

As with Doctors of Medicine (M.D.s), D.O.s educated in the United States are fully licensed physicians and surgeons who practice the full scope of medicine. Currently, there are 27 accredited osteopathic medical schools[2] in the United States and 125 accredited U.S. allopathic medical schools.[3]

D.O. and M.D.-granting U.S. medical schools have similar curricula. Generally, the first two years are classroom-based, while the third and fourth years consist of clinical rotations through the major specialties of medicine. Upon graduation, both D.O. and M.D. physicians may opt to pursue residency training programs. Depending on state licensing laws, osteopathic medical physicians may also be required to complete a one-year rotating internship at a hospital approved by the AOA - the American Osteopathic Association. Osteopathic medical physicians also have the opportunity to pursue allopathic residency programs, however, the converse is not currently permitted. Within the U.S., osteopathic medical physicians practice in all medical specialties including, but not limited to, internal medicine, emergency medicine, dermatology, surgery, and radiology. There is no difference in compensation between allopathic and osteopathic physicians. Physician salaries do differ among the various medical specialties.

Osteopathic medical physicians educated in countries outside of the U.S. do not follow the same curriculum as U.S.-trained D.O.'s. Their scope of practice is limited mainly to musculoskeletal conditions and treatment of some other conditions using OMM and various alternative medicine methods.

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[quote]PharmD Pete wrote:
PGJ wrote:
PharmD Pete wrote:
PGJ wrote:

Actually, a DC (doctor of chiropractic) and a DO (doctor of osteopathy), are pretty much equally qualified. The only real difference is that DCs have a bigger ‘bag of tricks’ because we are qualified to take and interpret x-rays, whereas DOs are not.

At least, thats how it works here in the UK, and I understand that there are some shockingly bad DCs over there in the US…

bushy

Not even close. A D.O. is an actual medical doctor (medical school, residency, the whole thing). A chiropractor is more like a Physical Therapist (never heard of a DC), yes he has a lot of training, but he is not a doctor.

This is chintsy, but a D.O. is not a medical doctor, ie not an MD. They do go through school but it is D.O. school, NOT medical school. It is similar but they focus on movement patterns and manipulations of the body more than MDs. However, after residency, I doubt an MD would be any better trained than a D.O.

You are wrong. M.D. and D.O. are the ONLY two types of physicians recognized in the USA. They both go to full-on medical school. Both are doctors. They just have different specialties. Trust me, my dad is a D.O.

I understand that they are both recognized as medical physicians, what I am saying is that a D.O. is not an M.D. They attend different schools to earn their respective degrees. I am not arguing that D.O.s are not as qualified, all I am saying is that there is a difference in their training.

For example there is no D.O. school at U of Iowa, but there is a medical school. And vice versa there is no med school in Des Moines but there is a D.O. school.

I have 2 friends who are doctors now, the only difference is one is an MD and the other is a DO.[/quote]

You said a D.O. is NOT a medical doctor. They most certainly are. Yes, DO’s and MD’s are different, but BOTH are physicians.

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
PGJ wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
PGJ wrote:

Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine. He’s an actual medical doctor, but specializes in bones, joints and muscles. He’s like a chiropractor, but with a much bigger bag of tricks. Chiropractors are not doctors. If you have a choice, see a D.O, not a chiropractor. However, massage therapy is something completely different. M.D. and D.O. are the only types of physicians recognized in the the USA.

Actually, a DC (doctor of chiropractic) and a DO (doctor of osteopathy), are pretty much equally qualified. The only real difference is that DCs have a bigger ‘bag of tricks’ because we are qualified to take and interpret x-rays, whereas DOs are not.

At least, thats how it works here in the UK, and I understand that there are some shockingly bad DCs over there in the US…

bushy

Not even close. A D.O. is an actual medical doctor (medical school, residency, the whole thing). A chiropractor is more like a Physical Therapist (never heard of a DC), yes he has a lot of training, but he is not a doctor.

So I guess you railroaded over the part where I said “at least thats how it is in the UK”… You say you’ve “never heard of a DC”. Well then perhaps you should read a little. Simply putting ‘doctor of chiropractic’ into google will reveal that in fact, a DC is regarded as a ‘primary healthcare provider’ in the USA, Canada and UK.[/quote]

That’s great, but it’s still not a doctor. A nurse can be a primary health care provider. I did google it. Do you understand the the difference between a physician and a health care provider? DC’s, even in England, are not physicians, they are Health Care Professionals, and can not prescribe medication. MD’s and DO’s can prescribe meds.

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Hey Bob, as you can see, we like kicking sacred cows.

Try not to take it the wrong way.

I actualy wasn’t joking about the rolling pin. I kind of figured it would be something like a cross between a foam roller and a blade. I’ve had a good deal of soft tissue treatments done in the past few years. A lot of ART, some blades and spoons, and a whole lot of Homedics thumper massages.

Thanks for taking the time to start a good thread.

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It’s all good I just wanted a subject that we all could learn from and benefit from.In my clinic I have used many different objects such as rolling pin, a heavy pipe that my mother used to make home-made tortillas,pointed staffs just to get a trigger point out or to just open up the muscle.I guess what ever it takes to get the job done and help the client get better.
Take care and keep the topic going.I like hearing different view points.

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Bob, will you or someone else talk about the differences in massage techniques and what they’re best for treating? You listed most of them in a previous post, I think.

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Like the poster above me said, could you explain the different types of massage?

What is trigger point?

Mark