[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
The 1st rule of meat-Club:
You Do NOT TALK ABOUT MEAT CLUB!
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The Meat Club for Men? Not only am I the Meat Club for Men President, I’m also a member!
Uh, I mean, if there was a meat club… which no one would, uh, talk about… because if there were, uh, a meat club, the first rule would be to, uh, not talk about meat club.[/quote]
Send him to the grinder…
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
The 1st rule of meat-Club:
You Do NOT TALK ABOUT MEAT CLUB!
S[/quote]
and the final rule of Meat Club: if it’s your first night… you HAVE to eat!
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]hockeydawg wrote:
[quote]BiP wrote:
[quote]hockeydawg wrote:
[quote]byukid wrote:
I’ve read about a natural alternative that has the same “meat-like” effects, does anyone know can this be true?[/quote]
These are called pro-meats. Their molecular structure is very similar to meat. They can work, but the side effects aren’t always known. There are a lot of internet sites selling pro-meats that are completely worthless. Like staek, hamm, chikun, etc. Buyer beware. [/quote]
Have you tried St3aked?[/quote]
No. I use SuperChikun 250. [/quote]
I heard it hurts going in.[/quote]
Not as much as NOSpamSplode.
I know this meat dealer in one of those former Soviet territories that no longer exists. Guy’s fucking crazy, he’ll sell you chicken, beef, pork, venison - hell, UNICORN as long as your wire transfer goes through! Stuff is like a 1/3rd of the price as what you pay at the gym…real discreet shipping as well (he writes “not meat” on each package he sends). Email me and I will put you in touch with “Meaty Vaclav”
(Hurry before the mods delete this!!)
has anybody on Indigo transitioned from a low carb or keto diet, to high carbs and not gained fat because of Indigo? theres so many logs out there i havent looked at, just curious if anybody has made the transition and can finally eat carbs.
Here is a study I found on creatine cycling that bk my theory:
Discussion:
The wide spread use of creatine among athletes and bodybuilders has raised concerns about possible negative side effects. Of course most of the nay sayers are looking to control its availability with little real concern for the well being of those who use it. This study has answered a question that has rested on the minds of many, which is, “Is there any reason to cycle creatine?”
From the study above we see that the abundance and activity of the creatine transporter is negatively effected by long term creatine ingestion. The creatine transporter is down regulated with continued exposure to extracellular creatine.
Human skeletal muscle has an upper limit of creatine that can, or will, be contained within the cell. This limit is around 150-160 mmol/kg of dry muscle. As the intracellular concentration of creatine approaches this level, the synthesis of creatine transporters declines and even stops depending on the amount of creatine ingested over time.
In the study above, it was shown that the creatine transporter is regulated by the content of creatine in the cell rather than by the interaction of creatine, or itâ??s analog 3-GPA, with the transporter.
All the arguments about creatine absorption being a limiting factor in creatine content within the cell are bogus. Creatine does not need to be “micronized” or “effervesent” to lead to an increase in creatine content within your muscles. The activity of the creatine transporter is the limiting factor. Any trick increase in creatine absorption will only hasten creatine transporter down regulation.
It only requires about 5 grams per day for 30 days to increase the content of creatine within muscle tissue to the same extent as 30 grams per day for 6 days. The sooner you reach the upper limit the sooner your muscles become unable to take up creatine. It is better to maintain sufficient levels of creatine transporters in order not to cause a rapid decline in creatine content once creatine supplementation is discontinued. Clearly there appears to be good reason to cycle creatine supplementation.
The authors of this study recommend not using creatine for over 3 months at a time. To truly cycle creatine you will have to take at least 4 weeks off. Creatine levels take at least one month to return to pre-supplement levels. It may be important to take the entire month off because one speculated mechanism of creatine transporter downregulation is that when the intracellular levels (levels inside the muscle cell) are increased the creatine transporters are taken down and not replaced as long as creatine levels remain elevated.
Thus it might take as long as a month for creatine transporters to return to normal after chronic creatine supplementation. Keep in mind that no one has actually shown that long-term supplementation with creatine is a bad thing.
LOL
Link?
“Hey, guys, let go grab a study real quick…from “somewhere”…but not show the study…just a discussion of it with ample bias”.
i wish i could sit here and quote every response i laughed at lol. you guys are A LOT more harsh on trolls these days as opposed to when i started posting, damn…
…you guys are jerks.
by the way I did post the link to the website, but T-Nation took it off, I got the pm, nd they wont let me post all the info either something to do wid advertising a different web site.
just ordered some Indigo! cant wait to take my physique to the next level