Indian TV Host Slapped by Contestant

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I talked to the police in several states in the US. They said that you are allowed to retaliate if a woman starts an altercation.

I believe the response was a fair and even response. It was obvious her ego had a problem with him, its the reason for the smart response and the slap.

I think hitting women is wrong, but women should not hit men - physically or verbally.

I have been in a couple of situations like malonetd, and you do have to do something.

I have had to restrain women from hitting me in the face and body, from throwing physical objects at me like ash tray, glasses, canned food even.

There are some women in the states in these days who will take a shot at you, because in general they can usually get away with it.

I am not a fan of abuse of women or degrading them, or even clowning them enough to be embarrasing.

I have never had to hit a woman with a closed fist. But if one ever hits me with a baseball bat, tries to stab me with a knife or pulls a gun on me, I’m going to knock her the fuck out.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
malonetd wrote:
I’m a pretty laid back and mellow person. I don’t like to argue or fight, especially with chicks. I’ll debate, but once it gets into the yelling and fighting stage, I’m done.

A few years back I was at this girl’s house. We had a disagreement – I can’t remember what about – and she started getting loud and that’s when I bowed out. I told her she was right, I was wrong, and tried to leave.

Apparently that wasn’t good enough since she grabbed me and then ran to block the door. I tried to just push her out of the way but then she started shoving and swinging at me. So then I walk to the back door to leave.

As I’m walking something hits my head hard enough for me to fall down. She threw a can of beans at nailed me in the back of my head. She continues trying to be physical with me while I was down, but I had enough.

I shoved her off me, shook the living shit out of her, and threw her down. I supposed I could have followed the “don’t hit women” rule, but I don’t know if I would have made it out of that house.

I’ve been in other situations where a female has tried to get physically aggressive with me, too, but not as severe. For whatever reason, there are many, many females out there that think it’s OK to strike a man. Bullshit.

If a girl doesn’t want to get hit, don’t go around hitting men. It’s not cute and it’s not OK.

Now I’m not talking about domestic abuse and I’m not talking about smacking a bitch just because she burnt the toast. I think most everyone here will agree those are serious issues, but that’s not the topic here.

I’m talking about a female preemptively striking a man. I don’t tolerate it.

Well said, I had an almost exact situation happen to me years back. There are some women who WANT to engage a man like a man, and when the man doesn’t give in, they taunt them further.

Malonetd, had you struck her, I would wager that you would have been in jail for domestic violence, all the while you were trying to diffuse the situation.

What is referenced here is not about equality in the job force or society in general. This is about how to deal with someone who is so engaging that they feel the need to physical assault the other person.

Interesting how she totally backed off her attack once she got slapped. Almost like he slapped some sense into her. Now that I think about it, she might be Osama Bin Laden, hell she acted like she has been living in a cave for some years now. [/quote]

I have experienced similar but I don’t want to go into details. The woman in question, however, had lost her freaking mind and had a weapon on her. Mind you, I know how to handle myself to at least some degree but had I done so even to disarm her, any damage done to her in the process would come back to bite me.

The bottom line is, many women DO use their gender as a free pass to do whatever they please as far as physical altercations to a guy. Their first action is usually to try to emasculate the guy verbally. If that doesn’t work, then they move to physical force and keep coming even if you try to leave.

If you aren’t successful in leaving the situation and retaliate AT ALL you are now seen as the bad guy.

Situations like this may not happen often, BUT THEY DO HAPPEN and they have nothing at all to do with “women’s equality on the job”. It has everything to do with many women believing they are free to do as they please to a guy and that the guy can never fight back or he will go to jail.

I am not sure why anyone is defending that or acting as if it never happens.

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He should’ve kissed het instead

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[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
Ok, for the women/men who say he should not have hit her: what should have done? Not rhetorical. Serious question.

Should he have:

A) walked away

B) stood there

C) other?

I’m curious…

Again, I’m not advocating men hit women back.

…but, if a woman is hitting my girlfriend or female friend or mother/sister, and the victim CANNOT fend for themselves - for instance, I cannot imagine my ex girlfriend capability of hitting anyone back - you better believe I will reconfigure the assailant’s face. That, I should get a free pass for.

Or I can just take it by force :)[/quote]

I would have stood there and smiled, because that would have pissed her off the most. She was looking for an anger response. This was a freaking gameshow, a manufactured environment. His life and well-being were not in danger here. The contestants knew it was a gameshow and that she would come out looking to goad them into an emotional response. The guy cracked. I see his response as a weakness, not a strength. The broad strokes a lot of you are using to draw comparisons to real-life threats make this debate laughable.

DB

Edit: just to be clear, I agree to the use of necessary force to protect yourself or others in a physical confrontation with a man or a woman. My point was about drawing comparisons between those cases and this gameshow case.

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Question:

As a man if you happen to see another man hit a woman would you jump in or say something?

What happens if she hit him first? Walk away and mutter “Bitch deserved it?”

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[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
worzel wrote:
JLu wrote:
If men and women are equals why is it that when a woman hits a man he probably deserved it, and when a man hits a woman he’s a wife beating redneck? I’m not talking about this video specifically just what the general attitude seems to be.

My sentiments exactly! If I happen to hit someone I sure as hell expect to get hit back! Putting a spin on what good old Sir Isaac Newton once said for ‘every action there is an equal and opposite but sometimes greater and exceptionally more painful reaction’. Don’t expect perceived societal norms to take preference when violence is your chosen form of communication!

I remember in 6th grade this dumb bitch kept making fun of me so I slugged her in the arm, that did not go over well.

Apparently all the faculty thought I was going to grow up to be a serial killer after that.[/quote]

That’s funny, 'cause when I was in the 6th grade this bitch came up behind me when I was sitting in my desk and started pulling my ear. I swear to god it felt like my ear was gonna detach from my head so I grab her by her hand, stood,spun around and chunked her to the ground. All hell broke loose. They called my mom to have a sit down with my teachers and principal telling her to watch my future behaviour, I got suspended, all kinds of shit. I ended up getting expelled from that school later that year…

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[quote]Aggro wrote:
Question:

As a man if you happen to see another man hit a woman would you jump in or say something?

What happens if she hit him first? Walk away and mutter “Bitch deserved it?”

[/quote]

I’ve learned from past experience to AVOID arguing couples at all costs. Very often, in your effort to “save” the woman, she will turn on you for you jumping on her man. It will end with you badly injured because you got jumped by the man AND woman even though you were trying to help her.

Unless it is clear that is an outright attack and her life is about to end unless you alone do something, the best advice is to not assume too much.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

Unless it is clear that is an outright attack and her life is about to end unless you alone do something, the best advice is to not assume too much.[/quote]

True.

I was at sonic last year and there was this dude in a truck talking to his girl, whom I assume he was picking up there or something, I don’t know. Anyway, I see the chick reaching through the driver side window for something inside and suddenly the dude grabs her and rolls the window up, pinnin her arm.

Then he started driving throught the parking lot dragging her. Me and my buddy who works there, along with the manager, chased after the truck yelling. Then the dude stopped and got out. He was a tall, huge black dude–actually he kind of looked like PX. Anyway, he got out and instantly I’m starting to choke on all the shit I was talking BEFORE I saw how huge he was.

Anyhow, long story short–knocked my buddy the fuck out right there in the parking lot right while my manager is walking the chick inside the store. I got on him from behind just as this happened and he threw me off like a rag doll, and I’m not a small dude.

Luckily, some more guys were coming to help us by now and had called the cops.

Dude tore outta the parking lot like rocket. Cops came and talked to us, the chick didn’t want to press charges, blah blah blah. Anyway, the fucked up thing is, after all this, the dude showed up again after the cops left and his dumbass chick went out and jumped in the truck and left with him. For the month that followed, my friend that got punched was being harrased and threatened by this dudes friends. It only stopped when he moved to Dallas.

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X has a fair and rational response on this.

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[quote]TooHuman wrote:
Unaware wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
the leading cause of death for women is homicide most often perpetrated by the man in their life. Especially for pregnant women.

Huh? CDC says over half a million women die from heart disease a year. FBI says total number of homicides in U.S. is around 17,000.

Yeah she’s confused.

Female’s killed in homicide’s are very often killed by “the men in their life” whatever the fuck that means.

I see nothing unexpected here.

People in general are killed in homicide more often by people who they know well or have spent a lot of time with.

Women happen to spend a lot of time with men.
Women are less likely to defend themselves successfully against a male attacker.

Nothing outrageous here.[/quote]
Homicide isnt even on the top 10 for women’s cause of death.

And men commit 88.6 percent of homicides, and only 2.4% of homicides are women on women (9.6% are women on man).
30% of women killed are killed by their spouse/exspouse/boyfriend/girlfriend though.

I personally adhere by don’t hit a woman, and think doing so is wrong, but I understand why others are saying he was justified.

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Hmmm…Wellllllll the show is meant to provoke the contestants from the looks of it…Well her role was to act like a bitch…I think the guy shouldn’t have participated in the first placem or at the very least resisted the temptation to react. He’s an idiot for having done that in a show where the bitch is meant to be…a bitch. That being said the girl pushed things a little too far.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Aggro wrote:
Question:

As a man if you happen to see another man hit a woman would you jump in or say something?

What happens if she hit him first? Walk away and mutter “Bitch deserved it?”

I’ve learned from past experience to AVOID arguing couples at all costs. Very often, in your effort to “save” the woman, she will turn on you for you jumping on her man. It will end with you badly injured because you got jumped by the man AND woman even though you were trying to help her.

Unless it is clear that is an outright attack and her life is about to end unless you alone do something, the best advice is to not assume too much.[/quote]

Friends of mine who are cops all agree that they hate domestic violence calls the most. They show up, handcuff the guy, sometimes pulling the guy off the woman and the woman goes batshit crazy on the them.

I’ve had 2 incidents where women were getting beat down and I had a choice to act. The first one I did, and stopped a fight that shouldn’t have gone as far as it did.

The second one, I didn’t, and I thought about it a lot after. It was at a softball park, we were waiting to play and this fight started out in the parking lot, man and woman yelling, then the man started to hit the woman. I stand up from the bleachers and yell HEY! and start walking that way. My wife pulls me back down and says “don’t get involved” and I listened, none of my friends/team mates stood up either. The guy had a couple of friends with him watching, but the person who ended up breaking it up was an off duty sheriffs deputy, who was a woman. I know she didn’t single me out, but it felt like she did when she glared at the crowd, made me feel about 2 inches tall.

I’m in agreement that a woman should not hit a man and not expect some sort of reaction. I have taken a couple of slaps, and punches and I don’t consider myself tough by any means, but I never answered back other than to laugh at them. Some times it took a lot of will power to not hit back, but I knew the outcome if I had. Try explaining to the cops how a 6’5" man gets “hurt” by a 5’something woman, but hey do it fast because the trip to jail doesn’t take that long. I think that some women realize this and use it to their advantage.

I might be in the “stupid” camp, but if I see someone getting the living shit kicked out of them, I gotta at least try to stop it. An ass kicking is one thing, everyone should get their ass kicked a couple of times in their life. It’s when it escalates form that simple ass kicking to something more, to something that can do some serious damage, that’s when people have to act. I don’t want to feel the way I did at that softball field ever again.

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That last post was longer than I intended. To further quote the Rock:

“I would never hit a woman in my life…but I’d shake the shit out of her!”

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[quote]Aggro wrote:
That last post was longer than I intended. To further quote the Rock:

?I would never hit a woman in my life?but I?d shake the shit out of her!? [/quote]

Wasn’t that Chris Rock?

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Yeah I forgot using The Rock would actually make people think of The Rock, instead of Chris.

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It’s just a sad situation all around. I would avoid it at all costs, but if you must you must. I would love to hear what law enforcement would say about this issue, had they seen the video.

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I saw that video a while back. I think that the cultural standards are different in the middle east from a gender stand-point where it is probably severely more disrespectful and insulting for a woman to slap a man than in other parts of the world. That being said, I’ve been punched, not slapped in the nose by an ex-girlfriend in the past and I responded by just laughing at her. I’m glad the guy got a beat down for cold cocking her back, even if she was out of line to begin with.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
malonetd wrote:
I’m a pretty laid back and mellow person. I don’t like to argue or fight, especially with chicks. I’ll debate, but once it gets into the yelling and fighting stage, I’m done.

A few years back I was at this girl’s house. We had a disagreement – I can’t remember what about – and she started getting loud and that’s when I bowed out. I told her she was right, I was wrong, and tried to leave.

Apparently that wasn’t good enough since she grabbed me and then ran to block the door. I tried to just push her out of the way but then she started shoving and swinging at me. So then I walk to the back door to leave.

As I’m walking something hits my head hard enough for me to fall down. She threw a can of beans at nailed me in the back of my head. She continues trying to be physical with me while I was down, but I had enough.

I shoved her off me, shook the living shit out of her, and threw her down. I supposed I could have followed the “don’t hit women” rule, but I don’t know if I would have made it out of that house.

I’ve been in other situations where a female has tried to get physically aggressive with me, too, but not as severe. For whatever reason, there are many, many females out there that think it’s OK to strike a man. Bullshit.

If a girl doesn’t want to get hit, don’t go around hitting men. It’s not cute and it’s not OK.

Now I’m not talking about domestic abuse and I’m not talking about smacking a bitch just because she burnt the toast. I think most everyone here will agree those are serious issues, but that’s not the topic here.

I’m talking about a female preemptively striking a man. I don’t tolerate it.

Well said, I had an almost exact situation happen to me years back. There are some women who WANT to engage a man like a man, and when the man doesn’t give in, they taunt them further.

Malonetd, had you struck her, I would wager that you would have been in jail for domestic violence, all the while you were trying to diffuse the situation.

What is referenced here is not about equality in the job force or society in general. This is about how to deal with someone who is so engaging that they feel the need to physical assault the other person.

Interesting how she totally backed off her attack once she got slapped. Almost like he slapped some sense into her. Now that I think about it, she might be Osama Bin Laden, hell she acted like she has been living in a cave for some years now.

I have experienced similar but I don’t want to go into details. The woman in question, however, had lost her freaking mind and had a weapon on her. Mind you, I know how to handle myself to at least some degree but had I done so even to disarm her, any damage done to her in the process would come back to bite me.

The bottom line is, many women DO use their gender as a free pass to do whatever they please as far as physical altercations to a guy. Their first action is usually to try to emasculate the guy verbally. If that doesn’t work, then they move to physical force and keep coming even if you try to leave.

If you aren’t successful in leaving the situation and retaliate AT ALL you are now seen as the bad guy.

Situations like this may not happen often, BUT THEY DO HAPPEN and they have nothing at all to do with “women’s equality on the job”. It has everything to do with many women believing they are free to do as they please to a guy and that the guy can never fight back or he will go to jail.

I am not sure why anyone is defending that or acting as if it never happens.[/quote]

I saw the same thing happen between my parents once when I was younger. They argued, and my father tried to leave. She wouldn’t let him, and ended up holding him down by grabbing his hair. He let this continue for about two minutes, while telling her to let him go, then he just hauled off and hit her.

At the time, I was freaking out, so I called the police and they took him away.

After the fact I realized there wasn’t much else he could have done, and that my mother was in fact the aggressor. But since my father is the one that struck her, he was arrested. He didn’t beat the shit out of her, but he did hit her once or twice, simply so she would let him go.

You could tell he felt really guilty about it. I was too young to do anything, and too scared, but I do remember sobbing and screaming to just let him go. She wouldn’t.

I imagine this is more common than most women like to believe. Fact is, that most men will not hit a woman unless they feel they have no other choice, and, lots of times, the women don’t allow any other options. You can’t walk away when she won’t let you.

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Firstly I’d bang the shit out of that “ugly indian chick”. At first I wasn’t really feeling her but she kinda grew on me.

Secondly, the general prohibition against hitting women comes from the moral injunction against bullying. Men are on average bigger and more dangerous than women are. This is not to say there aren’t times men can’t hit women or that the strong can’t hit the weak, but it means generally the violence is going the other way.

When you look at the numbers for domestic abuse, it’s pretty clear what the situation is, and why society has such strict rules against the application of male fists to female faces (which is not to say these rules prevent this violence–again look at the numbers).

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Why do people try to offer “solutions” with hypotheticals?

When you go to court, do lawyers defend their clients with what-if scenarios? No.

“He should not have been involved in that show in the first place.”

Well, no shit. If he wasn’t on the show, it would not have happened. That’s not what happened, though.

He was on there, and it did happen. That is what is being discussed.

Those of you that talk abstractly and in hypotheticals really crack me up. And I agree that there is, at least socially, a double standard, such that the administration of laws meant to protect people becomes distorted to make it seem like the law is unequal, even though it is not.

The problem is that there is a history of violence against women, and any case where a woman is hit - whether it was in self-defense or not - by a man simply adds to the negative image that is associated with the “primitive” idea that beating women is ok.

If there was a history of women going postal and hurting people, and that, socially, we were trying to “evolve” as a society by reprimanding that behavior, then every time a woman became abusive, she’d be handled appropriately.

The law has never been equal on this issue and probably never will.