You know who my favourite natural athlete is… Ronnie Coleman
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Look into cardarine. I used it recently and saw some excellent results. I was training a move/shoot range evolution with a time limit of 2:00 to run varying distances and achieve a certain shooting score. When I first started practicing it (after having worked on running/cardio/conditioning for several months) I was just getting under 2:00, on flat hard ground near sea level. After a few weeks of cardarine daily, I was able to complete the evolution in under 1:30. I failed my shooting scores at that speed, but that increased speed/conditioning allowed me to slow down on the actual shooting lines and make them count (and ultimately pass).
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This absolutely couldn’t be more inaccurate. I can’t speak first hand about all sports, however I can tell you with the utmost certainty that over 50% of NFL players have taken PEDs at some point in their careers. Even in the NHL, from those I have spoken to, it’s extremely prevalent.
Just because you only hear about random failed tests, doesn’t mean it’s not extremely common. The NFL makes it quite easy to pass such tests, just look up their testing protocol. Players and trainers know how to beat the system, and the system actually allows for “controlled” use essentially. The guys that get caught are either careless, not too bright, or absolute horrible odds have struck and they get screwed.
It’s laughable that anyone thinks professional sports are clean. There will always be newer, better, smarter ways to gain an advantage when BIG contracts/money/fame is on the line, and the players will always be one step ahead.
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Guys let him believe in the American dream. Let’s not shatter his image of these clean angelic American athletes that have natural god given super human abilities.
PS. My favourite natural athelete of all time is Mike O’Hearn. Apparently his body naturally produces Tren.
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Thanks for the advice. I was researching it and surprised it took that long for cardarine to be suggested! I am actually trying to find a good reliable sarms source in Canada to order online from currently. Most the people i know don’t order anything online. I’m the only of my friends who does, or who even knows cryptocurrencies at all so usually it turns into me getting bulk orders. Does anyone know of a trustable canadian distro?
Lol i have two weeks… so that’s clearly impossible. I do however have one more test, a second chance in two months maybe three. So lets say twelve weeks. Ill have my official vo2 max score on the 24th. So from there i will be able to gauge the improvement on the next test. After that next one though, may be a long time before i get another chance at all
This is absolutely, positively, the dumbest shit I’ve read in this subforum during my time on this site. And buddy, that’s a tall order. 98% of football players are using or have used PED’s. Anybody who knows any D1, semi-pro, or pro athletes can confirm that most high level athletes are using PED’s. If nothing else, please remove football from your list. Come the fuck on, dude.
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That athletes who dope arguement was fun to watch. Lol hardly a hijack @on_edge. Id have to say though every person with any arguement on it is basically naive to think anyones more right then the other. Different amounts of pro athletes in different sports dope. The ones who do in different sports do it at different times and may not do it once they’re considered pro but they may have done it to get to that level… others may do it often and get away with it… its impossible to say any numbers on the matter. Being an ex junior hockey player in Canada i can confirm that steroid use litterely varied team to team. But as you get closer and closer to the NHL the less you see or hear of it even if your one of the guys who have… its 100% common for competitive AMATEUR athletes looking to make the step in semi and full pro to make the choice and climb over what they think are plateaus or genetic limits. There is rumour that a couple of the biggest nhl stars that come from the quebec juniors did it in off season, after having bad seasons, then came into following seasons having the best season of their carrer and getting drafted… now, specifically the guy i believe did this is a star and i cant say if he did or did not continue use but if so, its every summer after playoffs and until the training camps start. And its done very well with a very good retention of gains after pct… thats probably a thing multiple guys do but they do get tested randomly as well.
Football id bet its more common and alot more guys taking alot more risk on running on season. Baseball is notorious along with mma. Id say mma its used by alot of guys right up until the ufc sniffs there assholes… running, cycling, marathoners i would say its a very low amount considering how many of those athletes are the type of people they are. The ones who do “cheat” are diehards but even alot of the runners in the biggest races (not speaking Olympic) are basically just lifestyle hobbyists that excel in running. Id doubt that the amount of ped users is as high as stated in those numbers but its still definitely there.
And finally… “my fav natty is ronnie coleman” lmfao i love it. But that speaks on so many levels to everything i just said…
You cant compare body building amd competitive weight lifting to hockey or baseball and i would never put hockey and baseball next to mma or football. And then running and other shit like that i couldn’t agaisnt any of those … its all way too subjective amd the fact that there is definitely people in all who don’t get caught… why even try to debate which is which. Im going
to be honest. And i may get flamed for this. But if i was i junior hockey and i had a second chance at the age as low as 16, i WOULD have used peds under supervision for growth in size and strength because i didnt start hitting the 170 pound range at 5’7" until after hockey ended but had i been 30 pounds heavier… i would have went from the most aggresive play maker with alot of assists in rep, to the most aggresive play maker in junior b or even a at 17 years old because i was that in the camps, but i did not have the size at 16-17 that the 19-20 year olds did and i missed out on a chance i jnow id have had if i were bigger. Back then.
At the end of the day. When they reach the “im making millions signing this contract” level. I bet a lot who do use peds to get that paper they sign, make a choice to stop in fear of losing the contracts… and manage to perform well enough long enough to keep going in the sport at the level they reach. Because once you are there, training with the rest of the guys at that level, your likely to adapt to that level without the enhancing drugs. That’s where many guys ultimately plateau in team sports… after drafting. Many stars excel even higher and id say a larger number of the stars are gifted and genetically lucky and of high intelligence and drive naturally so doping is less likely in the highest skilled guys but 3-4 line NHL players i bet some used it to get there and stop or risk the off season shit
And for the record. I know many guys who are in many different high level sports. Even if they’re best friend can keep a secret for them and wouldn’t fuck there girlfriends behind their backs… they still wouldn’t trust them with the information that could potentially end their livelihood. They won’t ever tell a soul if they have any head on there shoulders. That’s why i asked about the “hiding it from the spouse” thread months ago. No one that knows me know i cycle, and for the most part i hide the changes my body goes through because IDGAF about my look… im strictly trying to make a living and perform to the best of my ability and no ones opinion on my choices will make me change my mind unless they a doctor holding my bloodwork saying i actually need to stop. Until the day that happens. I will not. And i will also never tell others in my career or my gym that im cycling, when i am, or that i ever have cycled because its none of there business period and if they cycle, and tell people, good for them. It won’t change the way i hide it from them as well.