I’d suggest dieting & getting as lean as you can. Once you get to an acceptable level of bodyfat–single digits–go back and hit it hard again, see if you can’t cross that threshold.
At this point, you can go ahead and force even more calories down. But if you’re not hungry for them, the majority of your gains will probably be fat, and you’ll be at the same level of muscularity, just fatter.
Find a way to make yourself hungrier, that will mean you are growing.
[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:
I’d suggest dieting & getting as lean as you can. Once you get to an acceptable level of bodyfat–single digits–go back and hit it hard again, see if you can’t cross that threshold.
At this point, you can go ahead and force even more calories down. But if you’re not hungry for them, the majority of your gains will probably be fat, and you’ll be at the same level of muscularity, just fatter.
Find a way to make yourself hungrier, that will mean you are growing.[/quote]
I’m three months off of a cut right now, roughly. I hit single digits during my last cut, but I really don’t want to throw in the towel and abandon bulking at this point right now. A mild cut might be in order (one month), but not a full out cut where I’ll lose 20lbs just to be shredded.
I’ve started to increase my low intensity cardio load by performing cardio next to my training clients as they perform their 15 minute cardio drill before their weight training. This nets me about 5 hours of LI cardio per week 
Agreed witht he increased low intesnithy cardio. Should help with some eating.
Well if your on the full on gain train and were at single digit body fat just a little bit ago i think that pic is not quite relavant and you cant really see much to know where you are at. You should just take some like the ones in the RMP and post. That would help a lot more
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:
I’d suggest dieting & getting as lean as you can. Once you get to an acceptable level of bodyfat–single digits–go back and hit it hard again, see if you can’t cross that threshold.
At this point, you can go ahead and force even more calories down. But if you’re not hungry for them, the majority of your gains will probably be fat, and you’ll be at the same level of muscularity, just fatter.
Find a way to make yourself hungrier, that will mean you are growing.[/quote]
I’m three months off of a cut right now, roughly. I hit single digits during my last cut, but I really don’t want to throw in the towel and abandon bulking at this point right now. A mild cut might be in order (one month), but not a full out cut where I’ll lose 20lbs just to be shredded.
I’ve started to increase my low intensity cardio load by performing cardio next to my training clients as they perform their 15 minute cardio drill before their weight training. This nets me about 5 hours of LI cardio per week :)[/quote]
You went from single-digits to 15 percent in 3 months??? Dude you are definitely eating too much, unless there is something I am missing.
Frankly I think you are just about done gaining naturally…you have an advanced physique and have been training for quite some time. The human body can only go so far
I’ve always found that glycogen depletion workouts led to an absurd appetite when I was doing CKD 3 years ago.
A lot of the weight on the scale is your current food, fluid and glycogen when you’re bulking hard so a rapid drop in weight from failing to eat fully one day isn’t necessarily a backstep. From my experience gains of more than a pound/week, really shouldn’t be sought or considered beneficial to your cause unless PEDs are involved and at your level I don’t think a lb of LBM/week is really going to happen. Not that this is what you’re doing (You haven’t said so), but something to consider.
[quote]Gumpshmee wrote:
I’ve always found that glycogen depletion workouts led to an absurd appetite when I was doing CKD 3 years ago.
A lot of the weight on the scale is your current food, fluid and glycogen when you’re bulking hard so a rapid drop in weight from failing to eat fully one day isn’t necessarily a backstep. From my experience gains of more than a pound/week, really shouldn’t be sought or considered beneficial to your cause unless PEDs are involved and at your level I don’t think a lb of LBM/week is really going to happen. Not that this is what you’re doing (You haven’t said so), but something to consider.
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To be honest, I’m looking for a pound of LBM a month, or even every two months!