[quote]AGagain wrote:
Tim Ziegenfuss wrote:
AGagain wrote:
Hi Tim,
I have a quick question in regarding to dosing. Ours is arriving today. My husband will squat on Saturday in preparation for a meet in approx. three weeks. He is approx. 255 lbs and is using Surge Workout Fuel as well. How much do you suggest he take 90 minutes prior? And then should he repeat that does in 90 minutes?
Also, any problem with taking Spike/FiniBars on the same day? Do it matter if your stomach is full or empty? Just looking for optium conditions to try it out.
Thanks for your time!
AG
AG,
How long is the meet? To start, I’d suggest taking 600 mg 90 min prior to his first scheduled lift. For most guys, the effects last an hour or two…so if the meet lasts longer than that, another 300 mg dose might be necessary to keep blood levels elevated.
Also, a SPIKE and FiniBAR combo is fine.
Good luck,
TZ
Thanks for the response. The meet is over the course of several days. Currently training is like this, Saturday squat, Monday bench, Weds deadlift. They practice as a team so the length is variable. Should he start taking as soon as it arrives? Or just prior to intense training. At this level so much of it is mental. So anything that helps give that edge is appreciated![/quote]
I think giving 600 mg a practice run during training is a good starting point. Yes, start taking it ASAP.
Do you think the GH increase is enough to help slow the aging process and to allow enhanced healing? This would obviously have to happen over the long term, but do you see it worth exploring or trying?[/quote]
Free2Be,
That’s a stretch, but IMO it’s definitely worth exploring.
So I’ve been using this all week. First two workouts, bench and squat were a bit stronger, but not significantly so. Third workout I beat my best deadlift from last week and hit it for a double. Which is great, but I hadn’t been deadlifting much so I can’t say it was unexpected.
However, today I did push press…beat my PR by 10 lbs with a thicker bar (another 10 lbs right there) and it was really smooth.
Is it possible that I’m not explosive enough with the big 3 to really see a difference? It seems silly, but I don’t know why I’d get a lot on one lift and not much on the others.
[quote]kb12boy wrote:
What positive effects does Alpha-GPC have for an Athletic Sport (other than weight lifting benefits)?[/quote]
Although we havent made these measurements, based on the results of our first study I would anticipate that certain athletes might be able to: jump higher, kick harder, throw harder, and hit farther.
I took my first dose of this supplement on the 15th, 11 days ago.
The first 6 days of training with it I used only it, (three training sessions) to see what if any benefit it gave me.
the last few days I have tried it with what is fast becoming my new favorite stack.
2 scoops of Surge Workout Fuel
2 scoops of Power Drive
4 caps of Alpha-GPC
Within the last eleven days I have set a new PR in the back squat, now listed in my profile - 405 lbs. (It was brutal but I did it)
I have taken my old PR in the standing military press of 225 lbs. and ground out 2 sets of doubles followed by several solid singles.
Oddly enough I have yet to see where my deadlift is at on this stack but given the boost I’ve experienced so far with my other lifts I’m very hopefull.
[quote]Tim Ziegenfuss wrote:
kb12boy wrote:
What positive effects does Alpha-GPC have for an Athletic Sport (other than weight lifting benefits)?
Although we havent made these measurements, based on the results of our first study I would anticipate that certain athletes might be able to: jump higher, kick harder, throw harder, and hit farther.
TZ[/quote]
I think there is definitely a gain to be had. I’m a baseball player.
I would like to do almost a standardized “trial” by using a radar gun and simply figuring out where my velocity is at when I’m on it versus not.
In terms of perceived benefit (I was very cynical about this product so I didn’t expect much) I feel awesome. My throws feel effortlessly harder and I spend the whole BP forcing myself to wait longer on the ball as I’m getting through the zone so quick.
I’m an inseason athlete right now so I can’t do much in the way of trials, but if it works for lifts, there’s no reason it wouldn’t affect a sprint or jump.
[quote]baseballer2150 wrote:
Tim Ziegenfuss wrote:
kb12boy wrote:
What positive effects does Alpha-GPC have for an Athletic Sport (other than weight lifting benefits)?
Although we havent made these measurements, based on the results of our first study I would anticipate that certain athletes might be able to: jump higher, kick harder, throw harder, and hit farther.
TZ
I think there is definitely a gain to be had. I’m a baseball player.
I would like to do almost a standardized “trial” by using a radar gun and simply figuring out where my velocity is at when I’m on it versus not.
In terms of perceived benefit (I was very cynical about this product so I didn’t expect much) I feel awesome. My throws feel effortlessly harder and I spend the whole BP forcing myself to wait longer on the ball as I’m getting through the zone so quick.
I’m an inseason athlete right now so I can’t do much in the way of trials, but if it works for lifts, there’s no reason it wouldn’t affect a sprint or jump. [/quote]
Good feedback…and consistent with what others who are using alpha-GPC are saying. GPC is clearly a homerun ingredient (i.e., you feel it the first time you use it, it improves factors critical to athletic performance [not to mention overall health and wellness], and it may even help with body comp over prolonged use). It’s worth mentioning that there are different strengths of GPC on the market. I know that Biotest is currently selling the most highly concentrated form available.
[quote]holguint123 wrote:
Just ordered myself a bottle…curious to see how I will react to it.
Not sure if this has been asked already, but are the gains made from using Alpha-GPC lost if you stop supplementation, or are they retained?
[/quote]
Alpha-GPC will enhance performance only when it is used. That said, prolonged use may improve body comp (i.e., lower body fat), and that effect would be retained.
Just got done lifting with this stuff for the 1st time. Usually I could barely bench 300 for 1-2 reps, but today I was able to throw out 4 reps at 305. Mind you I’m on a CKD and spent all day in my research lab, so I was drained by the time I got to the gym. I think this stuff really works!
this seems like a great product for athletes, and seems like it would be particularly useful in improving sprint speed.
however, my question regard that is this- would it be wiser to use it as a performance enhancer during competition (specifically, sprinting at a track meet) or in the weight room training for competition?
i would imagine that it couldn’t be used with maximum results for a prolonged period of time, making me wonder if maybe cycling is necessary?
[quote]Tim Ziegenfuss wrote:
AGagain wrote:
Hi Tim,
I have a quick question in regarding to dosing. Ours is arriving today. My husband will squat on Saturday in preparation for a meet in approx. three weeks. He is approx. 255 lbs and is using Surge Workout Fuel as well. How much do you suggest he take 90 minutes prior? And then should he repeat that does in 90 minutes?
Also, any problem with taking Spike/FiniBars on the same day? Do it matter if your stomach is full or empty? Just looking for optium conditions to try it out.
Thanks for your time!
AG
AG,
How long is the meet? To start, I’d suggest taking 600 mg 90 min prior to his first scheduled lift. For most guys, the effects last an hour or two…so if the meet lasts longer than that, another 300 mg dose might be necessary to keep blood levels elevated.
Also, a SPIKE and FiniBAR combo is fine.
Good luck,
TZ
[/quote]
Hello!
So the meet was today. This was his first full meet. Previously bench only. He took 2 Alpha-GPC and one Spike prior to ea. lift. Said he also used Surge Recovery and Surge Workout Fuel and another non Biotest workout drink. He had a great day! Placed second and is now qualified for World’s.
Said he didn’t lift anything he didn’t in practice but stringing all together on a meet day is entirely different. Total was 2214. 848 Squat, 705 Bench and 661 Deadlift.
I’ve been using them too. I’m lifting much heavier with legs. Makes previously heavy weights managable. Also have been able to get out more pull-ups. Love the way I feel; not tired at the end. BUT the next day I can tell I had a crazy workout. Anyway, just wanted to share our results.
[quote]AGagain wrote:
Tim Ziegenfuss wrote:
AGagain wrote:
Hi Tim,
I have a quick question in regarding to dosing. Ours is arriving today. My husband will squat on Saturday in preparation for a meet in approx. three weeks. He is approx. 255 lbs and is using Surge Workout Fuel as well. How much do you suggest he take 90 minutes prior? And then should he repeat that does in 90 minutes?
Also, any problem with taking Spike/FiniBars on the same day? Do it matter if your stomach is full or empty? Just looking for optium conditions to try it out.
Thanks for your time!
AG
AG,
How long is the meet? To start, I’d suggest taking 600 mg 90 min prior to his first scheduled lift. For most guys, the effects last an hour or two…so if the meet lasts longer than that, another 300 mg dose might be necessary to keep blood levels elevated.
Also, a SPIKE and FiniBAR combo is fine.
Good luck,
TZ
Hello!
So the meet was today. This was his first full meet. Previously bench only. He took 2 Alpha-GPC and one Spike prior to ea. lift. Said he also used Surge Recovery and Surge Workout Fuel and another non Biotest workout drink. He had a great day! Placed second and is now qualified for World’s.
Said he didn’t lift anything he didn’t in practice but stringing all together on a meet day is entirely different. Total was 2214. 848 Squat, 705 Bench and 661 Deadlift.
I’ve been using them too. I’m lifting much heavier with legs. Makes previously heavy weights managable. Also have been able to get out more pull-ups. Love the way I feel; not tired at the end. BUT the next day I can tell I had a crazy workout. Anyway, just wanted to share our results.[/quote]
Anyone have some experience mixing Alpha-GPC with Piracetam? The Piracetam is purported to increase acetylcholine receptor density in the hippocampus. I’ve read that it should be mixed in a 2:1 ratio of Piracetam to Alpha-GPC.
