[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]florelius wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]florelius wrote:
And how can such a simple act as cut all bs spending ( what is bs spending and whats not bs spending btw ) you suggest solve all the problems of america? this is not sarcasme, if you are able to explain this please do.
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First of all, the US government gets 19% of the GDP max in the long run.
It was never able to get more, no matter what the tax rate. If they raise it tax evasion goes up, people work less and companies flee the country.
Then, they spend more money on their military than all other nations combined, run two unneccessary wars and spend more on education than almost, if not everyone, else with very little to show for it.
Then there is pork, subsidies, redundant organizations that exist on a federal and on a state level like the DOE…
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- why does the us government only get 19% of GDP?( what does GDP stand for btw? ) Is it constitutional or is it based on some economic law? ps. doe you have any links wich explains it further?
sorry for my ignorance in economics, but what is tax evation?
I agree on the military spending, the empire should be shut down, but of other reasons than tax, but if it helps the governments money problem its a bonus.
education: If its the most expensive in the world, but doesnt give the best payback it must be for some reason. find the reason and solve the problem should be the obvious solution. Education is a long term investment that will help the society in the long turn. So I would say no cutting.
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No matter what the marginal tax rate was, the US federal government never got more than 19% of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP).
http://kansas.watchdog.org/5805/federal-tax-revenues-at-19-of-gdp-regardless-of-rate/
Tax evasion: It might be shocking for you, but if taxes are getting too high, some people refuse to pay them, Some even go so far as to lie to the government about how much money they made!
The reason why they get very little in return for their investment is pretty simple: socialiced education.
Catholic schools get better results with half the money.
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Oh know I get the tax evasion point. Its actually a topic that are discussed alot in my country, but one argument for bringing evasion down is making the tax system more social. If regular workers who pay theire taxes see that the richest members of society get away with paying less taxes than them because of loopholes, generous tax cuts for top % of the population etc. The average citizen feels that the tax system is unfair. So this problem can be fixed by getting rid of loopholes and making the tax system more fair.
When it comes to socialised education, you might be right about the chatolic schools. But if the government terminated the public school system, kids would be without schools and commercial education corperations would take its place. This would not be cheaper if the federal and local state had to pay the corperations as they do with healthcare today, it would be more expensive. Remember that the healthcare in america are run by privat corperations and that it is more expensive than the 100% socialised healtcare in europa pr capita. This is because the corps are profit seeking and the state have to pay for that profit. But the state can make the public schools more autonom and cut back on some of the bureacracy, or they can let privat non-profit seeking schools corps take care of the education, but the state would still pay for every student. so its still free. An example of this would be how the waldorf school is run in my country. Its a privat non-profit seeking school and 80-90% of its costs are payed for by the state. Its works great and its the best school in norway in my opinion, I went there myself. So to sum up, its no need to remove socialised education, but there is many ways to do it and aslong as the quality is good and evrybody has a right to it I dont care have its done.
