Inches and Noticability

Training Bodybuilding
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[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Pumped340-- I’ve been disappointed with some of your posts lately regarding bodybuilding. What are you goals here anyway? If you’re not in pursuit of bigger/badder/stronger, then why burn so much energy in this forum?

Have you ever posted any pics or what?[/quote]

Like what other posts? Not saying you’re wrong, I’m actually wondering.

Believe me I love bodybuilding and my goals are related to getting bigger. I just don’t care if someone else doesn’t have those exact goals (yes this is a bodybuilding forum, so people here should be concerned with size. But if they’re less concerned with arms or legs or whatever than some other muscles then I don’t really care). Besides if someone finds something boring they can’t just suddenly make it interesting. Just like I don’t enjoy calf training. I do it because mine suck and I want to reach my goals but that doesn’t suddenly make me enjoy doing it.

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Training calves is boring. I loved playing basketball and was a huge fan of the sport but practicing foul shots was also boring. Either way, I do both of these things because I know it’s a necessary and important part of the “game”. But I don’t see what’s the big deal about someone finding one aspect of a sport they participate in boring.

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[quote]pumped340 wrote:
Besides if someone finds something boring they can’t just suddenly make it interesting.[/quote]

I find this thread boring.

Maybe adding some boobs and/or hot curvy bootilicious black women will suddenly make it interesting.

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[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
Training calves is boring. I loved playing basketball and was a huge fan of the sport but practicing foul shots was also boring. Either way, I do both of these things because I know it’s a necessary and important part of the “game”. But I don’t see what’s the big deal about someone finding one aspect of a sport they participate in boring.[/quote]

Possibly because some of these guys don’t even train that body part much because they have been convinced it doesn’t aid in strength much. No one gives a shit if you find one movement more “interesting” than another…but to make some claim that “veins pop from your forehead” with other exercises and that is why you hate training biceps IS retarded and WILL get commented on.

Why the hell wouldn’t it?

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X,

I dislike training biceps. It’s just not fun for me and I struggle to get the right connection like I can with pullups, squats, deadlifts, bench, OHP, etc etc. (EDIT: clarifying here- my MMC with biceps isn’t on the same level and my training requires effort on the weight, not the muscle)

Like someone else pointed out, I am sure you have a FAVORITE body part to train, well the corollary to that is that you have a body part that is not your favorite. That would be the one you like training the least, in other words, more boring than the others. For me, it’s biceps. Just doesn’t cut it for me.

My reasoning was pretty clear. It’s not because some strength coach said it’s stupid (that is how I started out though, so that WAS correct in the beginning) or I am not moving impressive weight. It’s because I don’t like isolation exercises such as curls compared to other exercises and normally placed them as an accessory “filler” movement.

That said, and something that I stated earlier, right now, at this point in my training, I am commenting in the wrong forum for my current pursuits. I made that known in my post and I’m pretty sure H4M falls in the same boat. But I do realize how important biceps are in my strongman pursuits (lots of bicep tears) so they are something I have included and a reason I come into this forum to figure out some of the best exercises for bodyparts I know to be lacking. That’s why I have been active in a lot of these threads and Akuma’s- I’m trying to learn.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

Possibly because some of these guys don’t even train that body part much because they have been convinced it doesn’t aid in strength much. No one gives a shit if you find one movement more “interesting” than another…but to make some claim that “veins pop from your forehead” with other exercises and that is why you hate training biceps IS retarded and WILL get commented on.

Why the hell wouldn’t it?[/quote]

I agree that if you are bodybuilding, you shouldn’t be training a muscle less than it needs to be trained because you find it boring.

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[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
X,

I dislike training biceps. It’s just not fun for me and I struggle to get the right connection like I can with pullups, squats, deadlifts, bench, OHP, etc etc. (EDIT: clarifying here- my MMC with biceps isn’t on the same level and my training requires effort on the weight, not the muscle)

Like someone else pointed out, I am sure you have a FAVORITE body part to train, well the corollary to that is that you have a body part that is not your favorite. That would be the one you like training the least, in other words, more boring than the others. For me, it’s biceps. Just doesn’t cut it for me.

My reasoning was pretty clear. It’s not because some strength coach said it’s stupid (that is how I started out though, so that WAS correct in the beginning) or I am not moving impressive weight. It’s because I don’t like isolation exercises such as curls compared to other exercises and normally placed them as an accessory “filler” movement.

That said, and something that I stated earlier, right now, at this point in my training, I am commenting in the wrong forum for my current pursuits. I made that known in my post and I’m pretty sure H4M falls in the same boat. But I do realize how important biceps are in my strongman pursuits (lots of bicep tears) so they are something I have included and a reason I come into this forum to figure out some of the best exercises for bodyparts I know to be lacking. That’s why I have been active in a lot of these threads and Akuma’s- I’m trying to learn.[/quote]

Dude, everyone has “favorite body parts” to train, but anyone acting like training any one of them is so boring that it needs to be discussed on a bodybuilding forum likely isn’t making very impressive progress to start with.

I mean, seriously, are there ANY of you who are saying this that would impress any serious lifters with your progress?

If not, then why would any of you continue with that mindset?

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Ah, but see, that’s why you need to make them a priority. If they are a weak point, you have a terrible MMC with them, and you know they could be a point of injury doing the sport you love. Why the hell are you not pounding them until they are a strong point?

Check out the Magnus vids I posted in this thread. He says in the arm training session that his arms have always been his strength. Is that motivation enough?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dude, everyone has “favorite body parts” to train, but anyone acting like training any one of them is so boring that it needs to be discussed on a bodybuilding forum likely isn’t making very impressive progress to start with.

I mean, seriously, are there ANY of you who are saying this that would impress any serious lifters with your progress?

If not, then why would any of you continue with that mindset?[/quote]

I was actually expecting a response worse than this. haha. I believe I originally made a side comment about bicep work, nothing I would have considered a discussion until lately nor did I really expect it to become the central discussion.

If we are talking about serious BodyBuilders only (which I will assume since we are in the BB forum) then no, probably not. If we are talking ALL lifters, then I imagine I would get at least some props and I know at least one of the other guys who posted is a fucking stud when it comes to his weights:age.

Why would knowing that we are not advanced in the BB sense make bicep work any less boring? I can still focus on improving things even though they bore the shit outta me.

[quote]JayPierce wrote:
Ah, but see, that’s why you need to make them a priority. If they are a weak point, you have a terrible MMC with them, and you know they could be a point of injury doing the sport you love. Why the hell are you not pounding them until they are a strong point?

Check out the Magnus vids I posted in this thread. He says in the arm training session that his arms have always been his strength. Is that motivation enough?[/quote]

I said boring; didn’t say I wasn’t hammering them or that they were not coming along. I just don’t find training them enjoyable.

To reiterate my point: I don’t enjoy working biceps. Doesn’t change the fact they are important. Just not my favorite. The original comment, by H4M, was that most bicep work bores him. I agreed. Now it’s become a different situation entirely.

PS- JayPierce, I actually very much enjoyed the vids you posted of Mangus. I wrote down exactly what he did to take a look at it compared to my training. I do not have the recovery capabilities for that!

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[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
X,

I dislike training biceps. It’s just not fun for me and I struggle to get the right connection like I can with pullups, squats, deadlifts, bench, OHP, etc etc. (EDIT: clarifying here- my MMC with biceps isn’t on the same level and my training requires effort on the weight, not the muscle)

Like someone else pointed out, I am sure you have a FAVORITE body part to train, well the corollary to that is that you have a body part that is not your favorite. That would be the one you like training the least, in other words, more boring than the others. For me, it’s biceps. Just doesn’t cut it for me.

My reasoning was pretty clear. It’s not because some strength coach said it’s stupid (that is how I started out though, so that WAS correct in the beginning) or I am not moving impressive weight. It’s because I don’t like isolation exercises such as curls compared to other exercises and normally placed them as an accessory “filler” movement.

That said, and something that I stated earlier, right now, at this point in my training, I am commenting in the wrong forum for my current pursuits. I made that known in my post and I’m pretty sure H4M falls in the same boat. But I do realize how important biceps are in my strongman pursuits (lots of bicep tears) so they are something I have included and a reason I come into this forum to figure out some of the best exercises for bodyparts I know to be lacking. That’s why I have been active in a lot of these threads and Akuma’s- I’m trying to learn.[/quote]
This is the post I was referring to in my response above. I know you say that you’ve ‘included’ direct biceps work in your training, but you don’t sound like you’ve made it a real priority.

Train them as if they’re your most important muscle for the next six months, and you might be surprised at how your event training improves. Your entire arm has to be strong as fuck. If not, your brain will shut you down to prevent injury (on some lifts). On others, you’ll just plain suck ass. Imagine trying to load stones with weak-ass forearms and biceps. Now imagine it again, but with forearms and biceps that are twice as strong as yours are now.

I’m sure you know all of this already, I’m just trying to pound it home. You sound like you’re avoiding making your weak point a priority, and then finding a way to justify it by calling it boring. My best advice is to suck it up and train 'em twice a week until they’re your strong point. You’ll be much better off in the long run, for more reasons than one.

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YOU’RE BORING ME!!!

:wink:

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Bicep training is so unfunctional…

Kipping pull-ups FTW!!

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Bill, you crack me up.

JP, I hear you. The past few months have seen me adding in an additional accessory day to my training so I can hit anything that is lagging more often. You’re right about it being beneficial to all my events, especially my stone work. I was experiencing pain in my elbows from them and making sure I had a heavy day and then a volume day for my biceps really helped alleviate that pain. I’ve been doing that setup for the last few months.

I want to say I am not trying to shy away from bicep work. I have been focusing on a few select areas that need THE MOST work and have been reading up on the best movements to help- biceps being one of them. I have really started to pound them with heavy DB and BB work and I am seeing good results in both size and strength. The fact remains they still bore me. Not sure what to say really, just not exercises I really enjoy.

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[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
JP, I hear you. The past few months have seen me adding in an additional accessory day to my training so I can hit anything that is lagging more often. You’re right about it being beneficial to all my events, especially my stone work. I was experiencing pain in my elbows from them and making sure I had a heavy day and then a volume day for my biceps really helped alleviate that pain. I’ve been doing that setup for the last few months.[/quote]
Good to hear. Nice work.

Meh. I guess it’s like my dad used to tell me… and I quote… “Tough shit, do it anyway!”

lol :wink:

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hhaha. I heard that a lot as a kid too!

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[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
hhaha. I heard that a lot as a kid too![/quote]

All front delt and no bicepz? Kill yourself Nathaniel.

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[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
hhaha. I heard that a lot as a kid too![/quote]

All front delt and no bicepz? Kill yourself Nathaniel.[/quote]

MY NAME IS NOT NATHANIEL!!!

I’m working on it buddy. We’re the same height so I have to make you look small at some point. Duh…