Immigration Reform

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]harris447 wrote:
I was talking about the underlying tone of quiet racism, first of all…whcih despite Hannity’s bullshit is obvious in his blather.

But, really, I was talking about the fact that with all the problems going on, is it not a bit suspicious that this has come up right now?

You cannot tell me that illegal immigration is SO much worse than one year ago that it must be the number one story of the day, every single day.

Who benefits from Sensenbrenner’s bill and the (totally predictable) uproar it caused?

Might it be the administration and GOP, coming into an election cycle they have nothing good to talk about in?[/quote]

harris,

No offense, but I think you might be reading into this a little bit w/r/t the whole “underlying tone of quiet racism” thing. I simply have not heard that from any of them.

I find it somewhat upsetting when I’m labeled as a bigot for talking about agressively securing our borders. Like securing our border automatically makes me anti-mexican. Or that illegal mexican aliens have some inherent right to cross our borders with no regard for the legal process which that entails.

For whatever reason DC is talking about immigration reform now, I for one am saying that it’s about time and couldn’t care less why they are discussing this seriously now, as long as they are. I’d be glad to support any democrat that takes an agressive stance on securing our borders.

Once our borders are secured, then we can start talking about amnesty. We have to stop the bleeding first IMHO.

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[quote]vroom wrote…
Summary, step 1, control the border. Step 2, force immigrants into the tax paying world. Step 3, educate and indoctrinate immigrants, legal or otherwise, into your culture.

bigflamer responded…
The only problem I have with amnesty for clean record illegal aliens is that without a secure border, we encourage more illegal immigration. Thus compounding the problem.[/quote]

Let me reiterate… :wink:

Step 1, control the border.

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[quote]vroom wrote:
vroom wrote…
Summary, step 1, control the border. Step 2, force immigrants into the tax paying world. Step 3, educate and indoctrinate immigrants, legal or otherwise, into your culture.

bigflamer responded…
The only problem I have with amnesty for clean record illegal aliens is that without a secure border, we encourage more illegal immigration. Thus compounding the problem.

Let me reiterate… :wink:

Step 1, control the border.[/quote]

Exactly.

Was I being redundant? :slight_smile:

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[quote]bigflamer wrote:
harris447 wrote:
I was talking about the underlying tone of quiet racism, first of all…whcih despite Hannity’s bullshit is obvious in his blather.

But, really, I was talking about the fact that with all the problems going on, is it not a bit suspicious that this has come up right now?

You cannot tell me that illegal immigration is SO much worse than one year ago that it must be the number one story of the day, every single day.

Who benefits from Sensenbrenner’s bill and the (totally predictable) uproar it caused?

Might it be the administration and GOP, coming into an election cycle they have nothing good to talk about in?

harris,

No offense, but I think you might be reading into this a little bit w/r/t the whole “underlying tone of quiet racism” thing. I simply have not heard that from any of them.

I find it somewhat upsetting when I’m labeled as a bigot for talking about agressively securing our borders. Like securing our border automatically makes me anti-mexican. Or that illegal mexican aliens have some inherent right to cross our borders with no regard for the legal process which that entails.

For whatever reason DC is talking about immigration reform now, I for one am saying that it’s about time and couldn’t care less why they are discussing this seriously now, as long as they are. I’d be glad to support any democrat that takes an agressive stance on securing our borders.

Once our borders are secured, then we can start talking about amnesty. We have to stop the bleeding first IMHO.

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I am absolutely not calling you a bigot; if it came across that way, then I misspoke and I apologize.

But, when I listen to the radio guys–and I listen to them all, as I suspect you do–the main point of the arugment seems to be cultural, i.e. the anthe in Spanish, etc.

Now, some are coy about it (O’Reilly), while some come right out and say it (Savage), but it is there, nonetheless.

And I still maintain that this is a way for the right to keep from talking about actual problems they have caused/ignored, such as gas prices, the war, etc.

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Sigh, never mind, since you quoted me I took it as criticism… oops, sorry.