[quote]100meters wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
What memo? I vote based on leadership and ideas. If a politician has both he will get my vote no matter what party he belongs to. However, typically liberals do not have any new feasible ideas and tend to run on platforms of disinformation and emotional rhetoric. But the minute a liberal comes up with a good plan to make things better, that is feasible and is not at the expense of one group to benefit another(class warfare), I will vote for him/her.
Hilariously, simply replacing liberal with Republican would make this accurate.
It doesn’t matter how we got there now.
It doesn’t? Woohaa, just forget about Bush fucking up. It doesn’t matter.
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No, not just forget about it, go with candidates that have ideas on how to fix it. Just protest voting Bush will end up in the same shit hole in a few years.
Not yet they haven’t, but voting for someone just because they aren’t Bush doesn’t mean they will be better. You have a 50/50 chance they could be worse.
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
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Why should someone sane consider that US troops are heroes? Any more then canadian, australian, german, polish, hell- even pakistani troops? Are all soldiers automatically heroes? Were the resisting soldiers of Saddam’s regime heroes? After all, what can be more heroic then fighting an enemy you cannot dream to beat on the battlefield? (this means that the american soldier was en reverse…oh let’s just forget that!)
Also, why won’t we generally replace the word “soldier” with “hero” , since they all deserve the name?
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You forgot to mention the Belgian troops. I think you owe them an apology.
It doesn’t matter how we got there now.
It doesn’t? Woohaa, just forget about Bush fucking up. It doesn’t matter.
No, not just forget about it, go with candidates that have ideas on how to fix it. Just protest voting Bush will end up in the same shit hole in a few years.
I’ll let you in on a little secret. There’s no fix. You’re screwed. Bush painted himself into a corner. He has no options.
And sure, they are better than Bush. They didn’t fuck up. He did.
Not yet they haven’t, but voting for someone just because they aren’t Bush doesn’t mean they will be better. You have a 50/50 chance they could be worse.
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Trust me, there’s zero chance of someone who isn’t Bush being worse than Bush.
[quote]steveo5801 wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
vroom wrote:
doogie wrote:
Understand I still think we were right to go in. I just don’t want our troops being ordered around by the Iraqi Prime Minister to protect his friends.
Good thing the administration stopped using the phrase “stay the course” recently…
By the way, what is Canada doing to keep itself safe from terrorism? Do you even realize that if it were not for us, you people up there would be quite vunerable?
“Cut and run” is for cowards and for those who don’t have the stomach to do what is necessary to restore order and democracy in that part of the world. The terrorists are banking on narrow minded people like you and others to allow them to continue their reign of terror and to export terror all over the world – yes, even to Canada!
So, do they let you out of the straight jacket to type this shit, or do you just dictate it?
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
You forgot to mention the Belgian troops. I think you owe them an apology.
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I’m deeply sorry. The Belgian Troops are heroic heroes of the utmost heroism.
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It doesn’t matter how we got there now.
It doesn’t? Woohaa, just forget about Bush fucking up. It doesn’t matter.
No, not just forget about it, go with candidates that have ideas on how to fix it. Just protest voting Bush will end up in the same shit hole in a few years.
I’ll let you in on a little secret. There’s no fix. You’re screwed. Bush painted himself into a corner. He has no options.
And sure, they are better than Bush. They didn’t fuck up. He did.
Not yet they haven’t, but voting for someone just because they aren’t Bush doesn’t mean they will be better. You have a 50/50 chance they could be worse.
Trust me, there’s zero chance of someone who isn’t Bush being worse than Bush.[/quote]
Riiiight! That’s what people said after Clinton. It is poor judgment to make a decision based on the “he can’t be as bad as _____” mindset.
[quote]Lorisco wrote:
tme wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
And this rant makes things better, how?
Blaming Bush does not fix the problem. And until you (or any other liberal) can come up with something better than “it’s all Bush’s fault”, to fix the problem, STFU!
It’s called accountability, jackass.
Ok, so telling Bush he has done a poor job by electing more of the other party is fixing the problem how? Oh, that’s right, it’s not about fixing the problem it’s about revenge. Then when you elect politicians that end up being even worse you can do this all over again with the new guy at the next election. Gee buddy, that makes all kinds of sense!
Hint: Maybe you might want to use your brain occasionally and actually vote for someone based on their ideas and what they can do instead of protest voting like a little kid!
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Wouldn’t rubber stamping the president be proof of no ideas given that he’s done a “poor job”?
[quote]Lorisco wrote:
100meters wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
What memo? I vote based on leadership and ideas. If a politician has both he will get my vote no matter what party he belongs to. However, typically liberals do not have any new feasible ideas and tend to run on platforms of disinformation and emotional rhetoric. But the minute a liberal comes up with a good plan to make things better, that is feasible and is not at the expense of one group to benefit another(class warfare), I will vote for him/her.
Hilariously, simply replacing liberal with Republican would make this accurate.
[quote]100meters wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
tme wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
And this rant makes things better, how?
Blaming Bush does not fix the problem. And until you (or any other liberal) can come up with something better than “it’s all Bush’s fault”, to fix the problem, STFU!
It’s called accountability, jackass.
Ok, so telling Bush he has done a poor job by electing more of the other party is fixing the problem how? Oh, that’s right, it’s not about fixing the problem it’s about revenge. Then when you elect politicians that end up being even worse you can do this all over again with the new guy at the next election. Gee buddy, that makes all kinds of sense!
Hint: Maybe you might want to use your brain occasionally and actually vote for someone based on their ideas and what they can do instead of protest voting like a little kid!
Wouldn’t rubber stamping the president be proof of no ideas given that he’s done a “poor job”?[/quote]
I’m not saying I agree with Bush, I just think it is stupid to vote for people as a protest of Bush. That doesn’t help anything. If someone has a good, reasonable idea on how to get the job done without causing more problems, then vote for that person regardless of party. But so far, all I hear is; “vote for us, we aren’t Bush”. To me, that means they have nothing else to offer other than not being Bush, and this is not enough.