[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
[quote]FutureGL wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]FutureGL wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]FutureGL wrote:
You know, it’s funny cuz I had a couple car break-ins myself. But wait get this… the guys that did it weren’t immigrants at all! Like you’d think they didn’t get the memo. You know… that only illegal immigrants mess up cars.[/quote]
Illegals only mess with the cars of people who have a modicum of intelligence.[/quote]
The logic in this thread is as follows: had they not been here (and they’re not supposed to be) this wouldn’t have happened.
The OP could have posted about a legal nihon kara kita imin that busted up his car too, and anger would then be transferred to legal Japanese immigrants. I get that if a person isn’t in the country that they can’t commit a crime here, but it’s not as though this kind of thing doesn’t happen 98% of the time at the hands of people who are legal citizens.
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So, in your opinion, then, when Japanese girls are raped by US military in Japan, it should NOT be a reason for the Japanese to want us out?
And your equating the anger at a legal Japanese with that toward an illegal anybody is way off. Anger at someone who does damage? Yes. But not as much as at someone who has NO RIGHT to be there in the first place.
Oh, and you’d have to be blind to not see that an illegal is more likely to break a law. Based on both past history (ha!) and likeliness of knowing and understanding rules of the road, etc. [/quote]
In my opinion, if you heard a single account of a US soldier raping a girl in Japan, it should NOT be reason for you to assume ANYTHING.
Look, all of your stuff here makes perfect sense. But it is astounding that all it takes is a guy posting a story (may have never even happened) about how is car got wrecked by an illegal alien and all of a sudden everybody chimes in about policy.
The plural of anecdote is not data, and “one of them wrecked my car” shouldn’t be the basis for any opinion other than “man that sucks for you.”
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You still aren’t getting it.
If not but for the fact that person was here illegally he would not have been here to commit the crime.
That is it, end of story. If he had been stopped at the border he would not have been here.
I don’t see how you can’t understand that. Where you come up with “data” as even being a part of this is beyond me. Fella, you need to pull your head out and actually read the posts without a predisposed answer in mind. We are not barking up the wrong tree, you are, you aren’t even in the right forest.
No one has said crime is only committed by illegals. No one has said traffic collisions only happen with illegals.
But in this instance, in this case, in that situation, it was an illegal who if he had been stopped at the border, this crime would not have occurred.
I really hope you get it this time because if not your logic fail is huge. [/quote]
Ok let’s go back to square one. If the guy wasn’t here it wouldn’t have happened. I’m with you there.
BUT since when does one anecdotal account of an illegal’s wrongdoing lead to all this talk about legislation? Don’t act like this guy’s story is mounting evidence for AZ policy, because all it is is one guy’s bad day at the hands of an illegal immigrant. Had the thread opened with mountains of data about car crashes and break-ins at the hands of illegal immigrants as a case for deportation, then I wouldn’t be so wound up right now.
This whole thread feels like somebody took a look at the new policy and went “hey wait a minute, one of those beaners fucked up my car just the other day! no wonder everybody wants to get rid of them.”
It’s just one guy’s little story, and honestly it has no place in an actual debate over immigration policy, which is what the thread has turned into.