[quote]Ghost22 wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
Criminals and scumbags will care little of any gun law. Leaving honest citizens defenseless and criminals armed to the hilt[/quote]
“Honest people” shoot each other every day. [/quote]
Which makes it an honest shot
[quote]relentless2120 wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_congresswoman_shot
gun control?[/quote]
Fail.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]relentless2120 wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_congresswoman_shot
gun control?[/quote]
Fail.[/quote]
I’m kinda surprised that happened in AZ. You’d think the guy would be full of holes before he could even get his weapon into a firing position. Maybe if the congresswoman carried, she woulda been able to defend herself.
Hows this for retarded gun control. As of 2011, you’re not allowed to mail order handgun ammo in California…as if that somehow makes things safer. Also, starting in February, there is supposed to be some new bullshit bill that goes into effect where we can only buy one box of ammo at a time, (one box a month, i think) and they’ll also take your thumbprint, and put you into a database. FOR BUYING AMMO.
Never mind that your name is already in the DOJ database, if you own a gun.
Never mind that California is already a bankrupt state.
Now they want to enact a completely unnecessary, inefficient, and expensive system, that will do absolutely nothing to reduce crime.
[quote]grayman19 wrote:
Essentially, the citizens live in a police state where random unjustified searches are the norm. [/quote]
This is false. Please STFU.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
[quote]Squiggles wrote:
[quote]grayman19 wrote:
Yet the idea that tightening gun control laws will increase the violent crime rate, while it holds true for most places, does not hold for Japan. Japan has arguably the strictest gun control laws in the world, where private citizens are outright forbidden to even hold anything that is not a shotgun. Shotguns are licensed only to sportsman, with a very difficult licensing process including a written test and firearms education course. Essentially, the citizens live in a police state where random unjustified searches are the norm.
Given this, one would expect that Japan’s violent crime and murder rate to be the highest in the world, yet it is actually one of the lowest of any developed nation: 1.1 murders per 100,000 citizens, and 1.3 robberies per 100,000 citizens, compared to 8.7 and 233 respectively for the US.
While I am not saying the a total police state is the answer to crime across the nation, this should at least force people to think before regurgitating the same facts and trends over and over. Cheers!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Japan[/quote]
Japan is an rare exception, and I can tell you from experience of having lived there that it’s the philosophy of honor and one needing to stay in line with norms and a bunch of other social pressure bullshit that keeps people in order, in addition to ridiculously harsh penalities for relatively benign things. Life in Japan is also hell, probably why they’re constantly offing themselves (everyday I’d wake up, click the news on, and there’d be a billion stories about different suicides, from poisoning, hanging, slicing one’s belly open…)
Japan is a complex puzzle and you have to know the entire picture to solve it.[/quote]
omg so smart![/quote]
Motherfucker, just because she has boobs and I don’t, I don’t get no love. Bullshit! I am going home, and I’m taking my fucking basketball.
[quote]Ghost22 wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
Criminals and scumbags will care little of any gun law. Leaving honest citizens defenseless and criminals armed to the hilt[/quote]
“Honest people” shoot each other every day. [/quote]
Ain’t nothing wrong with a gentleman’s duel.
[quote]Hyena wrote:
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]relentless2120 wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_congresswoman_shot
gun control?[/quote]
Fail.[/quote]
I’m kinda surprised that happened in AZ. You’d think the guy would be full of holes before he could even get his weapon into a firing position. Maybe if the congresswoman carried, she woulda been able to defend herself.
Hows this for retarded gun control. As of 2011, you’re not allowed to mail order handgun ammo in California…as if that somehow makes things safer. Also, starting in February, there is supposed to be some new bullshit bill that goes into effect where we can only buy one box of ammo at a time, (one box a month, i think) and they’ll also take your thumbprint, and put you into a database. FOR BUYING AMMO.
Never mind that your name is already in the DOJ database, if you own a gun.
Never mind that California is already a bankrupt state.
Now they want to enact a completely unnecessary, inefficient, and expensive system, that will do absolutely nothing to reduce crime. [/quote]
Dude…they are Democrats, they don’t carry guns unless they’re in Texas.
[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:
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That’s because you’re an idiot.
[quote]grayman19 wrote:
Yet the idea that tightening gun control laws will increase the violent crime rate, while it holds true for most places, does not hold for Japan. Japan has arguably the strictest gun control laws in the world, where private citizens are outright forbidden to even hold anything that is not a shotgun. Shotguns are licensed only to sportsman, with a very difficult licensing process including a written test and firearms education course. Essentially, the citizens live in a police state where random unjustified searches are the norm.
Given this, one would expect that Japan’s violent crime and murder rate to be the highest in the world, yet it is actually one of the lowest of any developed nation: 1.1 murders per 100,000 citizens, and 1.3 robberies per 100,000 citizens, compared to 8.7 and 233 respectively for the US.
While I am not saying the a total police state is the answer to crime across the nation, this should at least force people to think before regurgitating the same facts and trends over and over. Cheers!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Japan[/quote]
Are you serious? There are no other people on this planet who are like the Japanese. Their culture is unique. The Japanese are the worlds most orderly people. Gun control in Japan is a remnant of the post war demilitarization. It’s origin is not because there was no law and order and something needed to be done. So trying to compare the Japanese to the rest of the world is ridiculous.
It appears I am in error, as I made a statement without knowing all of the data involved. I will politely shut the fuck up now. Cheers
[quote]grayman19 wrote:
It appears I am in error, as I made a statement without knowing all of the data involved. I will politely shut the fuck up now. Cheers[/quote]
You have my respect and admiration. I have rarely seen anyone admit they’re wrong on these forums.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]grayman19 wrote:
It appears I am in error, as I made a statement without knowing all of the data involved. I will politely shut the fuck up now. Cheers[/quote]
You have my respect and admiration. I have rarely seen anyone admit they’re wrong on these forums.[/quote]
I did it once…and got flamed. 
[quote]Squiggles wrote:
I must say, it does amaze me how fast so many people are willing to disarm their brothers for the illusion of safety. I consider them all cowards. You want safety? Buy a gun, learn to use it, and have the balls to pull the trigger if the time ever comes. You can never regulate evil out of humanity without destroying everything.[/quote]
Agreed. One of the first moves Hitler made against the Jews was to confiscate their firearms. Think about that people.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]grayman19 wrote:
It appears I am in error, as I made a statement without knowing all of the data involved. I will politely shut the fuck up now. Cheers[/quote]
You have my respect and admiration. I have rarely seen anyone admit they’re wrong on these forums.[/quote]
x2
The Japanese should outlaw releasing sarin gas in train stations
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]relentless2120 wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_congresswoman_shot
gun control?[/quote]
Wish I was there, I would have killed him before he had a second chance to kill anyone.[/quote]
lol
[quote]grayman19 wrote:
Yet the idea that tightening gun control laws will increase the violent crime rate, while it holds true for most places, does not hold for Japan. Japan has arguably the strictest gun control laws in the world, where private citizens are outright forbidden to even hold anything that is not a shotgun. Shotguns are licensed only to sportsman, with a very difficult licensing process including a written test and firearms education course. Essentially, the citizens live in a police state where random unjustified searches are the norm.
Given this, one would expect that Japan’s violent crime and murder rate to be the highest in the world, yet it is actually one of the lowest of any developed nation: 1.1 murders per 100,000 citizens, and 1.3 robberies per 100,000 citizens, compared to 8.7 and 233 respectively for the US.
While I am not saying the a total police state is the answer to crime across the nation, this should at least force people to think before regurgitating the same facts and trends over and over. Cheers!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Japan[/quote]
Yes I suppose living in Oceania COULD result in lower crime…
[quote]Scrotus wrote:
The Japanese should outlaw releasing sarin gas in train stations[/quote]
It’ll solve all their problems!
Lets look at Mexico where gun laws are pretty strict, I am pretty damn sure and I know for a fact that if they are allowed to carry the cartels would not be so brazen. Case in point, my family comes from a small town north of Durango City, well that small town of at least 1000 is nothing but a farming community but they all carry openly, AKs along with rifles. Stating leave us alone if not we will fight back, guess what my Grandma states that they respect that and do not run through the town.
Though when you leave town its a different story with the damn cops.
If you want to read a bad ass story about a Mexican farmer standing up against the cartel, you should check this out
http://www.badassoftheweek.com/donalejo.html