Well, since I do consume animal flesh 4-5 x a day I would hardly call myself a vegan. And I do have chicken or turkey a few times per week and steak maybe once when I go out with my wife.
I prefer to think in terms of eating to maximize health.
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Yes, there is absolutely no questions that I would.
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As a vegan? NO!
As eating for health while still having animal flesh 4-5x a day, YES.
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very cool
animal flesh here, primarily, is white fish right?
sounds like youād appreciate the japanese diet
Very interesting thread.
To me Im assuming vegan + white fish = high protein, high carbs, lower fats.
Am I right?
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I do not go for gimmicks or concepts. i select things that work, if it ends up looking like something it is fortuitous.
MY GOD you guys like to put things in small, convenient boxes. Turning everything into a very precise and specific concept.
No itās not right.
First itās not vegan at all. Just because I consume a lot of veggies and some fruits doesnāt make it vegan. Vegan doesnāt mean the inclusion of vegies but rather the exclusion of animal food.
Second itās NOLT āwhite fishā. I personally focus mostly on white fish. BUT I will also have turkey, chicken, shrimps and salmon. And if I liked the taste of eggs I could have them. I also have red meat from time to time, once a week roughly.
The main reason I posted about white fish was that the original post was about how to get as lean as possible and white fish is the leanest animal protein source.
I just make food choices based on reducing inflammation and acid load.
Third, itās NOT high carbs. More like moderate carbs. To me high carbs is 60-70% of the daily calories. On an averae day if you count my peri-workoiut nutrition I consume around 300g of carbs, which is not āhighāā¦ for my size high would be 500-600g.
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I would say 50% white fish or shrimps
25% turkey or chicken
20% fatty fish (salmon mostly)
5% beef or wild red meats
For maximum leanness I eat more white fish but that normally is for 4 weeks.
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Easy with the tweets there birdie
Thx CT
This is great stuff!
I love chicken (and fish) so the sticking to mainly fish is an interesting concept. I never really thought about the acid levels or the cause of inflammation depending on certain foods consumed.
Love the first suggestion. I definitely need to increase my veggies. Never really thought about a āgreensā supplement.
Dropping all grains I thought was interesting as many people look for oats and similar foods for their carb intakeā¦ If you choose rice, are you sticking to brown rice or does any rice suffice?
Avoiding dairy might be tough. Iām not a huge milk drinker anymore, but some light dairy I can manage.
Do you take any whey protein?
As I donāt want to hijack this thread, maybe you can take a look at my ācritique physiqueā post. Iād love to hear your suggestion and feedback as I am at beginner stage and currently confused as to which direction to head with my own nutritionā¦
Anyways, great insights. Looking forward to learning more.
Ct what is your daily caffeine intake?
Do you still drink brain candy?
And thoughts on green tea?
Curious on this cut how youāre handling things, particular stims or hunger blunting
I donāt have any caffeine and switched to caffeine free Brain Candy. I take an ECGC supplement daily. Iām generally against stimulants.
Interesting. I think I could do caffeine-free if I worked a normal schedule but waking up at ~2:30 PM most days, I find a big mug of coffee pre-workout is a must. I have yet to try caf-free BC.
I did read a study recently (The Metabolic and Performance Effects of Caffeine Compared to Coffee during Endurance Exercise) that showed that caffeine increased lactate at rest & during exercise more than coffee (caffeine content the same). Iām not sure if this is a good thing.
As little as possible.
The only time where I prefer to have powdered protein is peri-workout where I have PLAZMA and MAG-10. But for the rest of the day I shoot for getting my protein from solid sources. I will use a whey protein only when I cannot have solid food for some reason.
Do you have something against whey?
Against it, no.
But I find real food to be superior to powered nutrition in all cases except for peri-workout.
- Real food fills you up more and for longer
- real food gives you a more complete nutrition profile 9it gives you minerals and other good stuff)
- Whey protein is insulinogenic, meaning that it raises insulin which can make the fat loss effort harder.
Listen, for YEARS I was the guy who would have 3-4 shakes per day and one or two meals with solid protein. I feel and look much better eating more real food.
The only advantage of whey protein over real food is convenience.
So if I have a choice between whey and food, itās food 100% of the time
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100% agree with that.
The only time I use protein shakes or recommend them to others is when I canāt have solid food due to being on-the-go and missing meal prep, or at the workout time.
I do have an honorable mention for young guys with lightning metabolisms having a hard time with their stomachs being full all the time (high schoolers etc.). Shakes are easier to cram calories into without staying in the stomach ao long you canāt eat the next solid meal.
Man was not meant to live on protein shakes alone.
Ok. I throw a scoop of naked whey into my morning smoothie and Iāll have a scoop or two in my post workout smoothie. Iād also rather eat real food.
What are your go to snacks when you want protein but not carbs? How do you feel about beef jerky? Eggs? Thanks.
Makes a lot of sense.
I use whey because yes it is convenient, I donāt cook so often, and itās a quick source for large amounts of protein (I tend to use 2 scoops - 48g).
But I agree, it does not fill you one bit unless of course you add a carb source and mix it with other things. Eventually I would like to stay away from itā¦ Would save money plus whole foods are 110% better.