IClimbRock's V-Diet Log: Year 2

I may be an industry professional, but I’m far from a professional climber! I love climbing, but I’m one of those guys who mostly just climbs. I’ve done cycles of repeaters and max hangs on the hangboard, but that’s the only sport-specific training I’ve done. I incorporate various technique drills into my indoor climbing, and will change up approaches (endurance focus, power focus, etc.) from time to time, but I really don’t get fancy with the training.

I climb three times a week and have been for the past five or so years. Sometimes one of those days turns into a hangboard day if I’m doing hangboarding. My lifting has always been non-climbing specific (though I would argue anything that gets you stronger is certainly valuable, and many climbers benefit by incorporating generalized strength work). Really, with lifting, I mostly focus on training areas of my body that climbing doesn’t maximally develop. I’m almost always doing:
-Some kind of upper body push
-Some kind of upper body horizontal pull. I figure I get enough vertical pulling work over the course of a week, so I spend the time rounding out my back and keeping my shoulders healthy. I was curious the other day, turns out I can do 15 strict pullups. Climbing is probably giving me enough strength there :slight_smile:
-Squat, lunge, and hinge variations
-Pronated curls: this is for structural balance and elbow health. I get tennis elbow about six weeks after stopping every time I think maybe I don’t need to do them anymore.
-A couple other isolation movements for whatever I feel like I might need.

I’ve always trained full-body, especially now that I only lift once a week. I’m glad to see I’m still getting stronger on once a week, although the three climbing sessions and two jiu jitsu sessions are probably complimenting that.

Long story short, while climbing is my passion, I’m not super gung ho about maximizing climbing performance at the expense of other things. I like also feeling strong in the gym, and now that I’ve found jju jitsu, it’s been a really enjoyable new challenge. Being a beginner at something again is fun. I only project routes up to 5.13a (or 7c+ depending on where you’re from) . I could do better with more focus into just climbing, but I’m happy with what I’m doing now.

As for the diet, I love it! Having already done this last year, knowing how simple, effective, and not overly difficult it is, I think it’ll just be an annual thing. I started this year at around the same weight I started at last year, but with a slightly better body comp than last year. I’m excited to see how I’ll look after it’s over.

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Day 18
Weight: 159.4 (daily change: 0)
Total weight loss: -5.6

Ah, the stall. I remember stalling at about the same weight, about the same time last round. Again, I’m grateful I’ve been through this before. I know one of these days I’ll step on the scale and weigh a couple less pounds all of a sudden.

I wasn’t as active as I’d like to have been at work. I probably won’t be for the rest of the diet. I’ll be sure to just be active where I can.

Jiu jitsu was okay tonight. Not as physically challenging as I would have hoped, but still it was some exercise.

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Thanks for the insight.

I’ve restarted climbing again about 2 years ago and keep finding myself conflicted between wanting to get better at climbing, without looking too much like a climber, combined with minimal training time.

I’m still a rank beginner at climbing, but hoping to break my first plateau soon.

I imagine you’re pretty big and strong. Technique practice will get you really, really far. I used to coach technique a lot, and the big strong guys tended to not notice how inefficient they were because they were strong enough that moves done inefficiently didn’t feel tiring. The cool thing about living in the information age is that there are tons of free resources available (suggested starting points: Lattice Training, Roap Coaching, and Dave MacLeod all have Youtube channels).

In terms of physical training, I’ve prescribed hip flexor and abductor training to just about every tall and/or thick-thighed climber I’ve worked with and it’s a game changer for those who need it. It’s a lot harder than people think to be able to move a long, heavy leg up high and under control, and to keep the hips close to the wall. The more your legs can reach high, and the hips can be close to the wall (often requiring extreme abduction at the hip), the more efficient you’ll be. Tall and heavy people can’t “get away with” having poor ability here as much as shorter, lighter people can.

Hope this helps. Then again, you say you’re getting back into climbing, so you probably know what to do already!

Day 19
Weight: 158.6 (daily change: -.8)
Total weight loss: -6.4

I had a decent lifting session this morning. I wonder if some carbs would have helped my performance, but I fought like hell, so I’m sure I got a good effect. It was a pretty uneventful day otherwise.

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That’s 50% correct at least. I’m certainly big for a climber.

I think you might have hit on a pretty valuable point there that i’ve been ignoring. I’m very lucky that my hip flexibility is pretty good naturally, but there’s been a few things recently that have hinted that my flexibility might be covering up a lack of mobility. Definitely something to explore alongside some technique practice. Thank you for your input, i’ll be sure to credit you when i finally get that V8 i’ve got my eye on.

Day 20
Weight: 158.8 (daily change: +.2)
Total weight loss: -6.2

I definitely look different now! I feel like last year, I came out looking skinny, but this year, I’m looking bigger than I did at the start! Amazing what a couple pounds of muscle can do.

I was really hungry this morning, which isn’t typical. I suffered through it. Climbing this afternoon was good. I finished that climb I was working on. This coming week will be a de-load week for climbing, which is pretty overdue. I’ll still climb three times most likely, but decrease both intensity and volume. I try to do that every fourth week but I’ve been forgetting. My left elbow is starting to remind me…

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Day 21
Weight: 158.0 (daily change: -.8)
Total weight loss: -7

Today was a rest day, as all Fridays are. I certainly needed it. I was pretty hungry for the most part today. After dinner I was fine. I’m looking forward to ending this in a week, but I’ll enjoy the final week and the progress that comes with it.

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Day 22
Weight: 158.0 (daily change: 0)
Total weight loss: -7

I climbed plastic this morning. I only did five routes instead of my usual eight ish, but still worked up to trying a nice hard climb for me. I’ll keep the volume down this week for sure.

I overdid it at dinner. Back on track tomorrow.

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Day 23
Weight: 158.2 (daily change: +.2)
Total weight loss: -6.8

Great jiu jitsu session today. I worked hard, learned new things, and got a great workout.

Dinner did almost nothing for me, and I fantasized about eating more food, but I know I don’t need it so I didn’t. Gotta stay the course if I want more progress.

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Day 24
Weight: 156.8 (daily change: -1.4)
Total weight loss: -8.2

Today wasn’t a very active day for me. I didn’t do much at work because I’m currently conducting performance reviews. I ended up leaving work late, and was naturally exhausted after doing that type of work. Between that, and knowing I needed to meal prep today, I opted not to climb after work. I went straight home and meal prepped. Tomorrow is jiu jitsu, and hopefully a more active day at work.

Today I’ve been considering what I’ll do next. I might opt to continue past day 28, perhaps for another week, or just do a shorter v-diet at some point in the next few months. Any opinions on what’s better or worse?

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Day 25
Weight: 157.6 (daily change: +.8)
Total weight loss: -7.4

Work was fine. Jiu jitsu was really, really good. I can feel myself getting better, and others are noticing too. Tonight’s class was hard, too. Lots of sparring.

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Day 26
Weight: 157.8 (daily change: +.2)
Total weight loss: -7.2

I had a good lifting session this morning, despite being tired from jiu jitsu last night. My weight is hanging out right where I ended the diet last year, which is cool, especially considering my body comp at this weight is better than last year.

Looking ahead, I won’t be continuing past the 28-day mark. I can feel the starvation mode and I’ve had enough of it. That said, I’m starting to reflect on how I’ll move forward. Hopefully I can be a bit wiser with food choices than I’ve been before. It certainly helps to know a lot of the food I’d eat because I “needed” it to perform well, I didn’t need most of that. Honestly, I need a bit more than what the V-diet provides, but not a ton.

I like the idea of starting and ending every day with protein. Actually, I’ve had a protein shake as breakfast for a long time now, although just whey, which is a LOT cheaper than Metabolic Drive. Maybe I’ll have a single scoop of MD before bed each night, in lieu of any junk food I might otherwise eat. I’m also still open to the idea of running a shorter V-diet later this year. We’ll see how things progress.

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Day 27
Weight: 157.6 (daily change: -.2)
Total weight loss: -7.4

Today was a multi-sport day. I did a jiu jitsu class and climbed after. Everything’s feeling good.

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Day 28
Weight: 157.0 (daily change: -.6)
Total weight loss: -8

Eight pounds lighter! Probably more, since I probably underestimated my starting weight. Last year I lost and gained back three pounds very quickly, so I’m sure that’ll happen again, but five pounds of fat loss in 28 days is pretty awesome. I’ll be doing this again at some point.

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congrats

Before and after pictures




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I’m a big fan of Greek yoghurt with fruit and some casein protein stirred through. Or i was, before it started disagreeing with me. Delicious, kept me full, helped me recover well and was pretty macro friendly to boot. Might be pretty high calorie for someone coming right off the back of the V-diet. I’m pretty sure @simo74 was also a big fan.

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Spot on mate. Protein powder mixed into Greek yogurt makes for a great pre bed last meal of the day.

UPDATE

After ending this diet three months ago, my weight held at 160. In preparation for a jiu jitsu tournament, I went back on the v-diet for 14 days. I went from 160 to 155 flat, and made weight at 155 without any dehydration strategies. There were definitely hard days, but this is the leanest I’ve ever been! Now to try and add some muscle…

Me three months ago, post 28-day v-diet

Me now, weighing 155

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