[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
…All planets have cycles of some kind…
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Maybe that’s the take home point.
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That’s fine. Then he should have said that. Because the way he typed it up, he is implicitly linking other planets warming with “liberal media”. That’s fucking ridiculous.
Besides which, the question isn’t so much “do planets have cycles” but “are we contributing a perturbation force to our own planet’s cycle, and if so, is it significant?”
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
…All planets have cycles of some kind…
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Maybe that’s the take home point.
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That’s fine. Then he should have said that. Because the way he typed it up, he is implicitly linking other planets warming with “liberal media”. That’s fucking ridiculous.
Besides which, the question isn’t so much “do planets have cycles” but “are we contributing a perturbation force to our own planet’s cycle, and if so, is it significant?”[/quote]
Ding ding ding!
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
…All planets have cycles of some kind…
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Maybe that’s the take home point.
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is it significant?[/quote]
This is the point that seems to be the kicker.
Aragon,
My cynicism comes from what I saw locally here.
When Global Warming was the crux for pushing better fuel consuming vehicles and less driving, only to find that when that happened, the state lost out on revenue due to fewer tax dollars coming in from the gas tax, which the state then raised to compensate.
"Taxable sales of gas in California have fallen from 15.9 billion gallons in 2006 to 14.6 billion gallons last year, a result of the recession and vehicles that get better mileage. That translated to a $157 million shortfall in revenue last year.
And consumption of gas was down nearly 53 million gallons in the first two months of 2013, about a 2 percent decrease."
Making people pay more for being more efficient, under a premise which I would call very questionable at best, is some bullshit.
It amazes me that people still argue about whether global warming is true or not. There is overwhelming undeniable evidence that this is fact happening. Now whether people choose to do something about it is on them. I am finishing up a degree in environmental science so I know both sides of the issue. And as a matter of fact both extremes piss me off to no end.
I can’t stand those who say global warming is a lie and that its just a hoax created by the government. I also can’t stand those who say that everyone must switch to electric cars immediately and all contributors to climate change must be immediately stopped. There is a middle ground, but that middle ground contains the solid truth that global warming is in fact real.
[quote]bulkNcut wrote:
It amazes me that people still argue about whether global warming is true or not. There is overwhelming undeniable evidence that this is fact happening. Now whether people choose to do something about it is on them. I am finishing up a degree in environmental science so I know both sides of the issue. And as a matter of fact both extremes piss me off to no end. I can’t stand those who say global warming is a lie and that its just a hoax created by the government. I also can’t stand those who say that everyone must switch to electric cars immediately and all contributors to climate change must be immediately stopped. There is a middle ground, but that middle ground contains the solid truth that global warming is in fact real. [/quote]
Are you enjoying college?
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]bulkNcut wrote:
It amazes me that people still argue about whether global warming is true or not. There is overwhelming undeniable evidence that this is fact happening. Now whether people choose to do something about it is on them. I am finishing up a degree in environmental science so I know both sides of the issue. And as a matter of fact both extremes piss me off to no end. I can’t stand those who say global warming is a lie and that its just a hoax created by the government. I also can’t stand those who say that everyone must switch to electric cars immediately and all contributors to climate change must be immediately stopped. There is a middle ground, but that middle ground contains the solid truth that global warming is in fact real. [/quote]
Are you enjoying college?[/quote]
Yes for the most part I am. I’ve been plagued with health issues the past 2 years so my choice to go to community college paid off. Im graduating this semester and then transferring to get a degree in exercise science at a university so thats where the fun should start.
[quote]bulkNcut wrote:
It amazes me that people still argue about whether global warming is true or not. There is overwhelming undeniable evidence that this is fact happening. Now whether people choose to do something about it is on them. I am finishing up a degree in environmental science so I know both sides of the issue. And as a matter of fact both extremes piss me off to no end. I can’t stand those who say global warming is a lie and that its just a hoax created by the government. I also can’t stand those who say that everyone must switch to electric cars immediately and all contributors to climate change must be immediately stopped. There is a middle ground, but that middle ground contains the solid truth that global warming is in fact real. [/quote]
It depends on your definition of “global warming” and what, specifically, it entails. What is the definition you are using?
[quote]bulkNcut wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]bulkNcut wrote:
It amazes me that people still argue about whether global warming is true or not. There is overwhelming undeniable evidence that this is fact happening. Now whether people choose to do something about it is on them. I am finishing up a degree in environmental science so I know both sides of the issue. And as a matter of fact both extremes piss me off to no end. I can’t stand those who say global warming is a lie and that its just a hoax created by the government. I also can’t stand those who say that everyone must switch to electric cars immediately and all contributors to climate change must be immediately stopped. There is a middle ground, but that middle ground contains the solid truth that global warming is in fact real. [/quote]
Are you enjoying college?[/quote]
Yes for the most part I am. I’ve been plagued with health issues the past 2 years so my choice to go to community college paid off. Im graduating this semester and then transferring to get a degree in exercise science at a university so thats where the fun should start. [/quote]
Stay as long as you can, I am the Administrative Manager for an environmental consulting and engineering firm…jobs are extraordinarily scarce in the field without a postgrad degree and experience.
But I started out in exercise science as well, the options in that field seem cool…if you don’t like money.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]bulkNcut wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]bulkNcut wrote:
It amazes me that people still argue about whether global warming is true or not. There is overwhelming undeniable evidence that this is fact happening. Now whether people choose to do something about it is on them. I am finishing up a degree in environmental science so I know both sides of the issue. And as a matter of fact both extremes piss me off to no end. I can’t stand those who say global warming is a lie and that its just a hoax created by the government. I also can’t stand those who say that everyone must switch to electric cars immediately and all contributors to climate change must be immediately stopped. There is a middle ground, but that middle ground contains the solid truth that global warming is in fact real. [/quote]
Are you enjoying college?[/quote]
Yes for the most part I am. I’ve been plagued with health issues the past 2 years so my choice to go to community college paid off. Im graduating this semester and then transferring to get a degree in exercise science at a university so thats where the fun should start. [/quote]
Stay as long as you can, I am the Administrative Manager for an environmental consulting and engineering firm…jobs are extraordinarily scarce in the field without a postgrad degree and experience.
But I started out in exercise science as well, the options in that field seem cool…if you don’t like money.[/quote]
The graduate level degree is absolutely necessary for that field.
I concur regarding exercise science as well, but in that case it is much more about the people you know to get jobs. Networking (very much outside class time) is extremely important and internships are as well. You can get good jobs after you work your way up, but only if you know people. So my advice is to network as much as possible and keep up with contacts.
[quote]bulkNcut wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]bulkNcut wrote:
It amazes me that people still argue about whether global warming is true or not. There is overwhelming undeniable evidence that this is fact happening. Now whether people choose to do something about it is on them. I am finishing up a degree in environmental science so I know both sides of the issue. And as a matter of fact both extremes piss me off to no end. I can’t stand those who say global warming is a lie and that its just a hoax created by the government. I also can’t stand those who say that everyone must switch to electric cars immediately and all contributors to climate change must be immediately stopped. There is a middle ground, but that middle ground contains the solid truth that global warming is in fact real. [/quote]
Are you enjoying college?[/quote]
Yes for the most part I am. I’ve been plagued with health issues the past 2 years so my choice to go to community college paid off. Im graduating this semester and then transferring to get a degree in exercise science at a university so thats where the fun should start. [/quote]
Do you realize the number of outrageous claims made among which none of them panned out ?
No polar ice by 2013, from Al Gore.
"However, the warming is so far manifesting itself more in winters which are less cold than in much hotter summers. According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become â??a very rare and exciting eventâ??.
â??Children just arenâ??t going to know what snow is,â?? he said.
I think we should just go into research mode, more than make wild assumptions.
I should also add that that particular field seems to attract some of the most liberal professors…I have seen interns come out quoting Al Gore as if it was gospel.
Real world experience seems to change those folks pretty quickly… when they are taken out of a cloistered liberal, academic environment.
Taken from the Patriot Post: Here’s what Time magazine had to say about the now infamous “polar vortex” during the great ice age scare in June 1974: “Scientists have found other indications of global cooling. For one thing there has been a noticeable expansion of the great belt of dry, high-altitude polar winds – the so-called circumpolar vortex – that sweep from west to east around the top and bottom of the world.” Four decades later, they’re using the same argument as evidence of global warming.
On Monday Time claimed, “[I]t may well be that global warming could be making the occasional bout of extreme cold weather in the U.S. even more likely. Right now much of the U.S. is in the grip of a polar vortex, which is pretty much what it sounds like: a whirlwind of extremely cold, extremely dense air that forms near the poles.” Whatever fits the narrative.
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]bulkNcut wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]bulkNcut wrote:
It amazes me that people still argue about whether global warming is true or not. There is overwhelming undeniable evidence that this is fact happening. Now whether people choose to do something about it is on them. I am finishing up a degree in environmental science so I know both sides of the issue. And as a matter of fact both extremes piss me off to no end. I can’t stand those who say global warming is a lie and that its just a hoax created by the government. I also can’t stand those who say that everyone must switch to electric cars immediately and all contributors to climate change must be immediately stopped. There is a middle ground, but that middle ground contains the solid truth that global warming is in fact real. [/quote]
Are you enjoying college?[/quote]
Yes for the most part I am. I’ve been plagued with health issues the past 2 years so my choice to go to community college paid off. Im graduating this semester and then transferring to get a degree in exercise science at a university so thats where the fun should start. [/quote]
Stay as long as you can, I am the Administrative Manager for an environmental consulting and engineering firm…jobs are extraordinarily scarce in the field without a postgrad degree and experience.
But I started out in exercise science as well, the options in that field seem cool…if you don’t like money.[/quote]
The graduate level degree is absolutely necessary for that field.
I concur regarding exercise science as well, but in that case it is much more about the people you know to get jobs. Networking (very much outside class time) is extremely important and internships are as well. You can get good jobs after you work your way up, but only if you know people. So my advice is to network as much as possible and keep up with contacts.
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I greatly appreciate your advice guys. I’m not planning on getting a job in environmental science. It was community college or no college so that’s what I ended up doing. Best decision of my life. I started going to the gym, fell in love with training, met the cscs for the college who has mentored me and done more for me than I could possibly imagine. I gained self confidence, fought through the toughest obstacles life’s thrown at me (so far), and most importantly went from no plan at all and going down a shaky road to knowing exactly what I want to do with my life. Sorry for the long drawn out story, I’m just very passionate about the decision which I guess comes from defending community college from onslaughts of my “privelaged” fellow highschool graduates.
My plan so far is to get my bachelors in exercise science. I already have connections and have been offered the opportunity training clients for my friend but I really want my cscs. I’m nothing special and still have an incredible amount to learn, but unfortunately know more than most of the students in the major at my current college.
I agree completely that networking is the most important aspect of landing a job and something I will be focusing on when I get out of the boonies and to my next college. If I don’t like where I am at the end of my bachelors degree I will continue on to get a masters in strength and conditioning specifically, something I may do just for the hell of it anyways cause I love learning.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I think we should just go into research mode, more than make wild assumptions.[/quote]
That’s the issue right here. It’s no surprise opinions run hot in the field–they do that in almost every research field where people have spent years try to solve problems. The problem is the political coupling: power potential in a way that say, curing Alzheimer’s or getting to Mars don’t offer.
Outside of that, it’s outrageous bullshit spewed across the media that further foment the waters. Once millions of people that don’t have a damn clue are whipped up about something–most especially including politicians who may not (or MAY) be well intentioned–get panties in a bunch the whole thing goes sideways.
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
[quote]bulkNcut wrote:
It amazes me that people still argue about whether global warming is true or not. There is overwhelming undeniable evidence that this is fact happening. Now whether people choose to do something about it is on them. I am finishing up a degree in environmental science so I know both sides of the issue. And as a matter of fact both extremes piss me off to no end. I can’t stand those who say global warming is a lie and that its just a hoax created by the government. I also can’t stand those who say that everyone must switch to electric cars immediately and all contributors to climate change must be immediately stopped. There is a middle ground, but that middle ground contains the solid truth that global warming is in fact real. [/quote]
It depends on your definition of “global warming” and what, specifically, it entails. What is the definition you are using?[/quote]
Without getting too nerdy on ya my definition includes the climate change and its associated effects beyond just the polar ice caps meliting such as ocean acidification and the effects on animal populations
[quote]conservativedog wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]conservativedog wrote:
i used computers in high school. [/quote]
That was actually an abacus. [/quote]
what are you doing in another thread of mine, i thought you were in north korea with your “bro” dennis rodman.
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Are you taking a break from barely legal porn or stalking your neighbor’s daughter?