IBE

Fuck it I’m goin with chemone anyway,I guess everyone forgot what I originaly posted

[quote]jbdd wrote:
Fuck it I’m goin with chemone anyway,I guess everyone forgot what I originaly posted[/quote]

haha. Classic

[quote]rainjoke wrote:
Heffernan wrote:

You’ve got a real homosexual fixation going on of late that I don’t really follow but I’m sure it’s very intellectual and sophisticated on a level I just don’t appreciate…keep it up…it’s really working for you.

Since when does me being a dick translate to me having a homosexual fixation?

As for being sophisticated and intellectual - that is a choice you make, and again has nothing to do with my homosexuality.

Are you saying that I cannot be gay and have a deep dislike for you at the same time?

Or are you saying that I am gay and must therefore be ignored?

Which is it, Flufferboy?[/quote]

As always rainjoke you’ve knocked me out of the ballpark with your well constructed and witty retort…the same one you’ve used a good half dozen times now…I suppose when you are on a winner you really just ride it for all it’s worth.

You probably don’t have time to come up with anything worthwhile to post as I’m sure you guys spend most of your time dealing with complaints and ‘customer service’ issues and I only highlight customer service as from the sounds of it there seems to be a lot of ‘issues’.

You obviously also need to put a fair bit of time into trying to convince people that IBE and ChemOne have nothing to do with each other? That whole ting doesn’t seem to be working out too well for you either?

Keep up the great work rainjoke. As always I look forward to your cutting and incisive reply…or just cut and paste an old one…I’m sure no one will recognise the differnece.

[quote]Heffernan wrote:
As always rainjoke you’ve knocked me out of the ballpark with your well constructed and witty retort…the same one you’ve used a good half dozen times now…I suppose when you are on a winner you really just ride it for all it’s worth.[/quote]

I guess I can only rise to the level of my adversary. I would try harder, but what would it get me? You can hardly make it through a post without questioning my sexuality. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but you seem to be chastizing me for doing the same thing you are doing.

No issues. Have you bought anything from us? You should try us just once and see if your theory holds any water.

Are there problem orders? Yep. Are there problem customers? Absolutely. Are we perfect? Name one compnay anywhere that is.

Name one customer service issue we are having. Just one. I’d really like tohear what it is - as I spend a good portion of my day answering emails and I have not heard of these “issues” you speak of.

So humor me this one time, and just provide one issue.

I need to do no such thing. This is a hooker lie that you have swallowed hook line and sinker.

I can’t prove your stupidity, but you certainly have done a bang up job of proving it yourself.

I think Anthony and Jack should fuck and have children. LOL. I’m going to go nair my sphincter!

sombitch

Has anyone had any problems with the quality of the products IBE provides?

[quote]~Justin~ wrote:
Has anyone had any problems with the quality of the products IBE provides? [/quote]

I have not had any problems with the quality of their products. But it has been a year since I have ordered anything from them, or used their products.

I have not used any of their more exotic stuff. I have used their Adex, nolva and clomid.

No. That’s where I always seem to find the arguement only holds true on their customer service being shoddy at times. I look at it like “Hey they’re small and trying to move up so I’ll support them because the price is ubeatable and the product is solid”. Then again not everyone feels that way and I’m sure some people want it when they’re told they were going to get it. Makes sense also, but then you pay more for that. It’s all an individual thing.

I think it would be nice if people kept their opinions to themselve thought, but we’re way beyond that here LOL :slight_smile: Keep fightin nice boys.

[quote]rainjoke wrote:
Heffernan wrote:
As always rainjoke you’ve knocked me out of the ballpark with your well constructed and witty retort…the same one you’ve used a good half dozen times now…I suppose when you are on a winner you really just ride it for all it’s worth.

I guess I can only rise to the level of my adversary. I would try harder, but what would it get me? You can hardly make it through a post without questioning my sexuality. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but you seem to be chastizing me for doing the same thing you are doing.
[/quote]
Ahhh…once again rainjoke you’ve delivered a knock out blow…or have you…why don’t you go back and have a look at your posts in this thread…while your at it…any other in which you’ve had a diagreement with me or anyone else for that matter…and see who has said what about anyones sexuality and what kind of inferences are made…why don’t we just keep this simple and just look at this thread…if you can manage to get that done…why don’t you get back to me and see if you think that it’s me that is questioning your sexuality?

No and I never would…much to what I am sure will be your dissapointment my opinion has absolutely nothing to to with anything that AR has said…just about everything he’s ever said with regard to ChemOne and IBE I’ve seen on numerous other boards (including this one). I don’t believe everything I read but when you see enough negative comment (including that contained within this very thread…by people that are in a way supporting you) I formed my own opinion…you by the way do a absolutely sensational job of inspiring potential customers with confidence regarding your professionalism and maturity…fantastic PR.

I thought this thread was about IBE?

You’ve just mentioned them above didn’t you? Should I cut and paste that quote by you a few lines up?

And who exactly do you work for again?? IBE??? ChemOne???

Why don’t you just pick anyone of the complaints in just this thread and start from there?

Is this the bit where you explain that you just happen to jump in here and defend and post in reference to and work for 2 ‘fierce’ business rivals, 2 completely seperate entities, 2 competing companies in the very same market…that have absolutely nothing to do with each other? I’d love to hear that story again. Last time I heard you were doing the books for ChemOne? You also spend ‘a good portion of your day’ answering emails for IBE?
Ahhh…yeah…I’m sure that’s an everyday occurence amongst business rivals?

At least we have some common ground…I don’t think you could prove my stupidity either.

[quote]biscuite wrote:
I think Anthony and Jack should fuck and have children. LOL. I’m going to go nair my sphincter!

sombitch[/quote]

Ha, that’d be the only kid on the block that could have an arguement with himself! j/k guys

[quote]Big Willie Style wrote:
biscuite wrote:
I think Anthony and Jack should fuck and have children. LOL. I’m going to go nair my sphincter!

sombitch

Ha, that’d be the only kid on the block that could have an arguement with himself! j/k guys[/quote]

Good one.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
~Justin~ wrote:
Has anyone had any problems with the quality of the products IBE provides?

I have not had any problems with the quality of their products. But it has been a year since I have ordered anything from them, or used their products.

I have not used any of their more exotic stuff. I have used their Adex, nolva and clomid.
[/quote]

you have not had problems because you OWN IBE … rainjackoff, please get a life, you don’t even look like you workout old man

[quote]~Justin~ wrote:
Has anyone had any problems with the quality of the products IBE provides? [/quote]

shitty quality, shitty delivery time, scammers and liars

scammed me out of $500

100s of posts about them on all forums, IBE and chemone (same company) both sell shit

[quote]biscuite wrote:
I think Anthony and Jack should fuck and have children. LOL. I’m going to go nair my sphincter!

sombitch[/quote]

rainjackoff already got enough male action in jail for dealing meth, that’s before his company IBE and chemone scammed me for $500

damn scammer

Big man if you don’t post some sort of proof and/or show us where you came from (like do you post on another board) then you’re story doesnt’ mean shit. Could you please do one of those two things or just shut up already? $500 for what? What did you order that they didn’t send? Or did you just “happen” to join this board wich doesnt’ even advertise for ibe and see that this thread was started miraculouly at the same time you got scammed and you decided to jump in? You have to see that to anyone following that doesn’t seem likely at all.

BTW, Biscuite if it’s not too late. DON’T DO IT BRO!!!
Not only will it burn but you’ll probably bleed and then shit on you bloody asshole wounds every time you have to shit. It’s an infection just waiting to happen and for what? A few moments of glory!? It’s not worth it man.

[quote]WideGuy wrote:
BTW, Biscuite if it’s not too late. DON’T DO IT BRO!!!
Not only will it burn but you’ll probably bleed and then shit on you bloody asshole wounds every time you have to shit. It’s an infection just waiting to happen and for what? A few moments of glory!? It’s not worth it man.[/quote]

Dude - how much Nair are you using? LMAO!

It’s like Brylcream - a little dab’ll do ya.

[quote]~Justin~ wrote:
Has anyone had any problems with the quality of the products IBE provides? [/quote]

A lot of people have.

I have.

The guys on Melanotan.org know that IBE’s Melanotan II does not work.

IBE knows that. Still selling it.

IBE knows that their MGF does not work. Still selling it.

I used IBE in the past and was satisfied with what I got – Ketotifen, and some liquid tamoxifen, I think.

My recent order was a different story.
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1013331&pageNo=3#1167805

IBE didn’t package the peptides properly on my order. Didn’t reply to any emails. The guys on Melanotan.org had similar experiences.

However, if the peptides are already damaged, no amount of proper packaging will help un-damage them.

No amount of PEGylation will make MGF work if it’s melted to the container. And yes, that is how my MGF arrived. Both bottles.

I would like someone to post what evidence they have that IBE and ChemOne are the same company.

Here’s the evidence that they are not:

In 2004 the owners of Liquid Research were arrested but later cleared by the DEA and the state of Louisiana on charges of distrubuting GHB and anabolic steroids. They were cleared because they operated a legit research chemical company and were not trafficing GHB or steroids. Do a google search for LiquidResearch.com and you can find the names of the husband and wife (Edward and Natalie) that owned LiquidResearch.com and that now own IBE. To prove they still own IBE look at their website registration information. Natalie is still listed as the contact for IBE’s new website. You can find this information on Alexa.com.

In another thread on T-Nation Anthony Roberts in what could be viewed as a veiled threat posted the names of the owners of ChemOne. If these are indeed accurate are we to believe him here when he names the owners of ChemOne, or when he says that ChemOne is the same company as IBE? In Roberts post you will note that no females were listed as owners of ChemOne, nor was anyone named Edward. So which story of Anthony’s do you believe? ( http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1139635 )

You will also note in that thread that Roberts was either misinformed or was outright lying about ChemOne and their relationship with the manufacturer of Targex. So if he wasn’t accurate there why do we assume he’s accurate here?

Next peice of evidence. The products from ChemOne are different - they all appear to me to be suspensions. IBE creates solutions. Why would the same company carry different products? Why would IBE ship out of Louisiana and ChemOne out of New England? Why would they operate two manufacturing lines, and two warehouses in different states? That’s a big unnecessary financial expense.

So in this post I’ve provided the names (if AR is to be believed) of the owners of ChemOne, and through research I’ve provided the names of the owners of IBE. They don’t match. Game, Set, Match bitches.

If anybody has proof better than that, please elucidate. Because other than a bunch of personality driven squabbling I see no fucking proof of anything Roberts is trying to allege.

This thread is like a good mystery novel. What with all the twists and turns, shadowy characters coming out of now where, and spellbinding suspense. I just hope the ending isn’t anti-climactic.

D

I see what you’re saying. I’ve been a member here a long time, but I don’t post over here much.

I do lurk quite a bit though.

I mod on another board that AR used to admin on so I’m familiar with him and the lengths he will go to in order to win an arguement.

All I’m saying is how can we believe him when he’s saying 2 things that are contradictory? He doesn’t have any credibility in this area. You can like him or hate him, I don’t care. But he’s just wrong until he posts some solid proof otherwise.

As someone that’s supposed to be an author he should be objective and if he’s going to disparage someone have more than just unsubstantiated musings. The premise of his arguement is that because ChemOne and IBE are on friendly terms they must be one in the same. He has no proof, he hasn’t posted anything resembling solid facts on this issue.

You can go and look up everything I posted above. Of all the times I’ve seen AR be called out and proven wrong he’s never retracted any thing. Just once before I die I would like to see him man up and say he was wrong. I actually semi-respect his knowledge and dedication to his craft, but he’s narcissistic and unable to see his own limitations.