I Will Never Look Big

[Sentoguy]

Sorry Sliver, but you’ve said some pretty naive statements in this thread and you’ve been called on them, by myself, X, and others.

Sliver wrote:
The only big change between now and then were the drugs.

Nope. Clearly your knowledge of training and nutrition (or it’s importance to results) is lacking if you truly believe this. I’ve already pointed out numerous other “big changes” that have occurred. Which I see you’ve failed to respond to.

Sliver wrote:
For arguments sake if we assume anyone who hasn’t admitted to using steroids or failed a drug test is “natural” then as far as I know Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler, and pretty much every bodybuilder out there aside from a small handful I’ve read on avidly is “natural” by your definition.

Oh really? By my definition? Please find a quote by me saying that this is my definition of “natural”.

I used a BB’er who has passed numerous drug tests and won numerous natural BB’ing competitions. There’s a bit of a difference between that and calling someone who hasn’t taken any drug tests or competed in any drug tested competitions natural.

Way to put words in my mouth though.

Steroids aren’t used continuously. They’re used in cycles so if someone knew what they were doing they could easily get the drugs out of their system in time for a competition. So the premise that he must be natural because the competitions are drug tested doesn’t mean jack.

Oh, ok so now you’re gonna try to take the “cycling” scapegoat.

Once again, I used Lacour because he has always competed in natural BB’ing competitions, and is among the most respected and most widely excepted to be natural BB’ers in the world.

The fact that you tried to compare his being natural to Coleman and Cutler is a pretty clear indication that you haven’t got a foot to stand on in this discussion.

Yes, protein shakes have made things easier for you, but you’d never have even gotten to the point where you’d need that much protein if it weren’t for Dbol, so give the credit where it’s due.

Just stop talking dude, you’re just digging your hole deeper by continuing to say asinine things like this.

What’s the old saying, “tis better to be silent and thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt”.

And to clarify my position on nutritional and training advances over the last 50 years. I think they make things easier for someone to build muscle. I don’t think it’s going to make them look like Dorian Yates.

Who the hell said that people were going to be looking like Dorian Yates without anabolics? Where was Yates even mentioned in this discussion until this statement by you?

red04 wrote:
This entire thread is starting to remind me of that thread a ways back where the guy tried to say he found a formula to predict the maximum possible muscle mass your frame can achieve EVER, based on nothing but current height+weight+wrist/ankle circumference

NO!!!

God help anyone who posts a link to that article. >:(

[Sentoguy]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/what_routine_worked_best_for_you?id=2071969&pageNo=3

Here it is. It was TRAJJ on this site. Apparently, back bridges for 3 min are also the key to success in getting really big and strong…and FUNCTIONAL.[/quote]

Yup, that’s the thread. I don’t recall that TRAJJ ever actually told us what a combat pyramid was though (at least I didn’t see it if he did). Not that it has anything to do with this thread.

[That_One_Guy]

[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/what_routine_worked_best_for_you?id=2071969&pageNo=3

Here it is. It was TRAJJ on this site. Apparently, back bridges for 3 min are also the key to success in getting really big and strong…and FUNCTIONAL.

Yup, that’s the thread. I don’t recall that TRAJJ ever actually told us what a combat pyramid was though (at least I didn’t see it if he did). Not that it has anything to do with this thread.[/quote]

hmmm, he did, it’s like some kind of form of…ah who gives, it’s actually funnier if it stays undefined

[Rippemanewone]

Use the secret man… EAT MORE

[MeinHerzBrennt]

[quote]Rippemanewone wrote:
Use the secret man… EAT MORE[/quote]

DUDE

WTF are you doing?!? Giving out the most closely held secret in all of bodybuilding?

YOU HAVE RUINED EVERYTHING

/sarcasm.

OP: you just misjudged how much weight you will have to gain in order to look big. Of course you will be able to look big (assuming you are consistent and stick with it); you just need to reach a higher bodyweight in order to accomplish it.

If you give up, you’ll never look big. If you continue, and keep the mind set that you WILL be big, then guess what happens…

YOU REACH YOUR GOAL

[RebornTN]

Just keep on trucking.

Eat, lift, sleep, repeat.

[croc]

keep going . believe achieve!! , genitics don’t matter, just train hard and eat enough, ohh and rest rest rest ,

I’m 6ft bud and in the pic i weighed in at 171

i started next years diet last week my goal is around 180 on stage

and i dont train splits

[Sentoguy]

[quote]croc wrote:
and i dont train splits[/quote]

I don’t know, I’ve gotta say that a huge guy who can still do the splits (like this guy above) is pretty damn impressive. Maybe you should start.

[Cephalic_Carnage]

[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
croc wrote:
and i dont train splits

I don’t know, I’ve gotta say that a huge guy who can still do the splits (like this guy above) is pretty damn impressive. Maybe you should start. ;)[/quote]

[WS4JB]

X,Sentoguy, and CC, thank you.

I can’t imagine how difficult it is to make progress when always setting limitations for yourself.

It’s always been my method to shoot for the absolute best, even if ya fall short by a bit, you are gonna end up in a pretty good place.

[croc]

[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
croc wrote:
and i dont train splits

I don’t know, I’ve gotta say that a huge guy who can still do the splits (like this guy above) is pretty damn impressive. Maybe you should start. ;)[/quote]

yep you can’t deny the big fella is huge ,