[quote]Eddie_would_tow wrote:
kmcnyc wrote:
Its structured different from martial arts,
There is no Kata.
Whatever! There are about 1000 katas in wrestling!
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kmcnyc wrote:
there are no belts, no rankings…
BULLSHIT! I am a 2nd degree black belt in wrestling. That’s how come I know about the katas.
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wow
post a video of your kata’s
I never got mine from the mail order catalog.
kmc
[quote]texasguy4 wrote:
Other than being tossed around?
Expect to be tired in more ways than running or lifting has ever made you, regardless of intensity and duration.
Expect jitters and insane adrenaline headaches.
Expect pressure and twisted limbs like you havn’t before.
Expect to realize what true flexibility is, while learning you don’t have it.
Expect a huge sense of pride when you win. Competition doesn’t get much more raw or intense.
Expect an equally shitty feeling when you lose.
Expect cauliflower ear!
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good post.
As far as expectations, expect to be addicted.
Texasguy, brought up some cool stuff.
I would say just expect to work hard, and feel a little pain.
pain that is different from other training.
and get to like advil.
Realy though, have fun. If you are competive you will like it.
dont get too frustrated
the best advice I can give to anyone trying something new
is to be like a baby- just absorb it all.
kmc
[quote]kmcnyc wrote:
Eddie_would_tow wrote:
kmcnyc wrote:
Its structured different from martial arts,
There is no Kata.
Whatever! There are about 1000 katas in wrestling!
.
kmcnyc wrote:
there are no belts, no rankings…
BULLSHIT! I am a 2nd degree black belt in wrestling. That’s how come I know about the katas.
wow
post a video of your kata’s
I never got mine from the mail order catalog.
kmc[/quote]
Dude, they are too TOP SECRET. There is no way I could reveal this good shit to you guys, even if you were ready. I am a member of the League of Ninja Wrestlers(LWN). It is a secret vigilante group that none of you amateurs would understand.
Chances are we have already saved each of your lives at least once. So don’t even try to pretend we don’t exist.
Even if there were videos of our katas, they would be too confidential. Sorry.
EDIT: But…I will sell them to you for a limited time offer of $19.95 each. I do accept paypal.
[quote]blazindave wrote:
Xen Nova wrote:
^There’s an aussie dude who posts on the “underground” who didn’t start wrestling till he was around 17-18 and earned a scholarship to wrestle at a university in Japan.
Never underestimate what can get done with hard consistent work, so good luck.
And I agree with you quite a bit, its always funny to see someone say something like “Ya just go join your college wrestling team” like ANYONE can just walk on and do that shit. Nevermind that most of these guys have wrestled since they were four…
I checked out Zilberman before making this thread. He coaches my university’s wrestling team. I emailed this montreal wrestling place but they said they don’t take beginners at my level, which is completely understandable.
For now the only place i can check out is the CLIC. They already warned me it’s very physical.
I’m sure i’m somewhat “ready” for it because of my mental toughness, brought on by triathlons and kyokushin. I’ve almost killed myself just by trying to run further and ending up 20 km from anyone with no food or water and already dehydrated.
I don’t really fear pain but i’m still not sure what to expect. I understand that ill be thrown around alot but other than that…? Can someone fill me in on that?
I’m not doing this for mma. It’s for personal enjoyment, i have little to no grappling skills and it seems like a very fierce, intense and fun sport and i just thought i should pick it up.[/quote]
Hmmmn, again I think there are better fits for what you’re looking for than wrestling. Not even saying you wouldn’t make a good wrestler, it just doesn’t ‘fit’. Wrestling is a weird hybrid of martial art and sport, and it is primarily trained like a sport; in a sense, what you’re trying to do is start playing football at 20 something; there just isn’t much of a market for it.
You don’t represent much in the way of ‘potential’ i.e. no coach will see you as a future world champion and won’t want to invest in you, you’ll be working with a lot of 14yr old kids, and will probably be as good as them, there are not many people who train but not compete except for like, retired guys, and you won’t be able to compete for a few years probably because, given your age, you will only be able to enter senior level tournaments, and that is essentially the highest level (some are weaker/stronger, but there is no beginner/intermediate/etc.).
I think wrestling is the best sport around. (BTW, nbcolympics.com @ 5p pacific tmrw is showing the last set of olympic trials matches in the US for free, check it out). And I think your reasons for wanting to do it are good, and that you might even make a good wrestler. I just know guys who have taken it up in University having never wrestled before, and they usually are unhappy and quit. Sometimes its due to the physical nature and conditioning etc., but in your case, it could just be because of pure frustration, at not being good at something, almost like taking up the guitar, and trying to jump into music school jam sessions.
I don’t know, I guess you should give it a shot, it’s just, it sounds like you are an active guy in pursuit of a physical challenge; and I mean, wrestling is a great example of that, but there are a lot of other things that are perhaps more appropriate. One positive thing I have to say about the MMA craze, it has given a lot of people the opportunity to try out these combative situations in beginner friendly environments. It leads to a lot of ‘fucking ham and eggers’, who enter one ju jitsu tournament and come last, and switch their whole wardrobe to Tap Out and Affliction and act like BJ Penn, but everyone has to start somewhere I guess.
I take it you’re in Montreal? Maybe you should try out some of the classes at an MMA place (I assume there are enough there), especially wrestling, see what you like, and then also, as your wrestling improves, transition to training with a freestyle club. I would think that environment is much more friendly to teaching a guy in your situation (and maybe wrestling isn’t actually the best choice for you), and then as you develop your skills, if you want to continue wrestling training and/or start competing, you could go to Monteal WC, say.
[quote]kmcnyc wrote:
texasguy4 wrote:
Other than being tossed around?
Expect to be tired in more ways than running or lifting has ever made you, regardless of intensity and duration.
Expect jitters and insane adrenaline headaches.
Expect pressure and twisted limbs like you havn’t before.
Expect to realize what true flexibility is, while learning you don’t have it.
Expect a huge sense of pride when you win. Competition doesn’t get much more raw or intense.
Expect an equally shitty feeling when you lose.
Expect cauliflower ear!
good post.
As far as expectations, expect to be addicted.
Texasguy, brought up some cool stuff.
I would say just expect to work hard, and feel a little pain.
pain that is different from other training.
and get to like advil.
Realy though, have fun. If you are competive you will like it.
dont get too frustrated
the best advice I can give to anyone trying something new
is to be like a baby- just absorb it all.
kmc[/quote]
One thing I forgot, expect to be perpetually tight and uncomfortable. No amount of stretching, massage or mineral baths really prepare your body for the abuse.
By design, the holds, slams and reversals are just unnatural. That is what brings the pain and it leaves your body asking WTF?
not a bad idea to find a mma place that teaches wrestling to get your feet wet.
This thread makes me miss my sport so much.
P.S. Books are utterly useless when learning a drill. You simply cannot learn the mechanics of a particular motion, be it a granby or a double-leg via words. The best a book could do is give you tips after you already knew the moves in question.
The bare minimum is a video. A coach would be better.