[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
orion wrote:
Since I read Rainjacks post about crying over advertisements or soap operas or whatever it was during PCT I always thought that this would be interesting.
I need to try that.
HA!! Pretty funny.
But it did get me wondering. If this type of behavior is typical for most women, I’m in trouble. I’m about as sensitive as a hammer, any day of the month.
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I just crave to get hammered…and I aint talkin’ 'bout with alcohol!!! 
Woman: “How do you write women so well?”
Jack Nicholson (as Melvin): “I think of a man… and I take away reason and accountability.”
[quote]nephorm wrote:
Woman: “How do you write women so well?”
Jack Nicholson (as Melvin): “I think of a man… and I take away reason and accountability.” [/quote]
I remember that movie. lol.
[quote]nephorm wrote:
Woman: “How do you write women so well?”
Jack Nicholson (as Melvin): “I think of a man… and I take away reason and accountability.” [/quote]
NOT FUNNY.
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I am curious what your husband thinks…[/quote]
I’m certain that if I asked him he would say that I’m the very soul of reason. And not because I told him to!
Which reminds me of a story a friend told, who apparently suffers from really severe PMS. I guess she was talking about it in therapy, and her therapist told her that many cultures treat menstruating women with reverence (I think this is false, BTW, I’ve never heard of such), and so she would be justified to expect that from her husband. So friend goes home and tells the husband “When I’m on my period, you should revere me.” “But I already fear you!” he responded. Hahaha.
Anyway.
My husband…really, he probably thinks I’m a giant pain in the ass. (He may have expressed this once or twice.) But not because my hormones make me irrational or moody. I’m a pain in the ass all the time. It’s consistent.
But you know, so is he.
Rainjack, I’m still considering the idea that nearly all women are driven to irrationality during arguments because they’re intimidated by the superior logic of men.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Rainjack, I’m still considering the idea that nearly all women are driven to irrationality during arguments because they’re intimidated by the superior logic of their men.
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I think you are stalling because…you are…intimidated.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
My husband…really, he probably thinks I’m a giant pain in the ass. (He may have expressed this once or twice.) But not because my hormones make me irrational or moody. I’m a pain in the ass all the time. It’s consistent.
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This is how I know he doesn’t really understand women. He seems to think it has to do with hormones.
Are our differences in hormones the only thing that make men and women different?
Is sexuality only chemical and does it shape how we reason about the world around us?
Being that both men and women have equal opportunity to experience the same world why do we seem to view it differently?
Why does my wife cry when she is happy?
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Why does my wife cry when she is happy?[/quote]
Beats me. Why do men cry when Ol’ Yeller dies? Or when Brian Picolo dies?
[quote]rainjack wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Why does my wife cry when she is happy?
Beats me. Why do men cry when Ol’ Yeller dies? Or when Brian Picolo dies? [/quote]
People just cry for different reasons, that’s all. It has nothing to do with gender.
Me? I cry when I peel onions, or if I spill my last beer and the liquor store is closed.
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
rainjack wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Why does my wife cry when she is happy?
Beats me. Why do men cry when Ol’ Yeller dies? Or when Brian Picolo dies?
People just cry for different reasons, that’s all. It has nothing to do with gender.
Me? I cry when I peel onions, or if I spill my last beer and the liquor store is closed.
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When I say “cry” I don’t mean merely shedding stray tears here and there. I mean balling one’s eyes out and not being able to finish a sentence without gasping for air.
Part of me thinks that my wife’s tears are just a way of manipulating me – I get an instant guilt trip whether I should feel guilty or not.
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:
Do not attempt to rationalize with a crying woman unless you have a spare bedroom or a comfy couch.
Also, telling her you’ll give her a “real reason to cry”, though funny as hell, is marital suicide.
Why does this thread keep reminding me of Shania Twain???..
Oh Yeah, it’s because she has such a nice ass! 8^)
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Yo Momma wrote:
rainjack wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Why does my wife cry when she is happy?
Beats me. Why do men cry when Ol’ Yeller dies? Or when Brian Picolo dies?
People just cry for different reasons, that’s all. It has nothing to do with gender.
Me? I cry when I peel onions, or if I spill my last beer and the liquor store is closed.
When I say “cry” I don’t mean merely shedding stray tears here and there. I mean balling one’s eyes out and not being able to finish a sentence without gasping for air.
Part of me thinks that my wife’s tears are just a way of manipulating me – I get an instant guilt trip whether I should feel guilty or not.
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:
Do not attempt to rationalize with a crying woman unless you have a spare bedroom or a comfy couch.
Also, telling her you’ll give her a “real reason to cry”, though funny as hell, is marital suicide.[/quote]
Damn, that’s too bad.
I’ve got nothing to tell you, except I’m a woman and I don’t understand this either. But you married her, and I assume nobody was holding a gun to your head on your wedding day.
BTW, that’s what my father used to say when I cried after I fell off my bike when I was a kid. Maybe that’s the problem with these women. They didn’t take enough beatings when they were kids.
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
Damn, that’s too bad.
I’ve got nothing to tell you, except I’m a woman and I don’t understand this either. But you married her, and I assume nobody was holding a gun to your head on your wedding day.
BTW, that’s what my father used to say when I cried after I fell off my bike when I was a kid. Maybe that’s the problem with these women. They didn’t take enough beatings when they were kids.
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I’m in love.
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
BTW, that’s what my father used to say when I cried after I fell off my bike when I was a kid. Maybe that’s the problem with these women. They didn’t take enough beatings when they were kids.
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Hey, as far as the gun to the head, you are right but that was 8 years ago and certain information wasn’t available to me – I think this is normal for most people to realize and part of making a relationship work.
As far as the other mis-placed jokes, I was just trying to get her to realize her father was right. Women with father issues…what does one do?
This thread has taken an interesting turn. I don’t know what causes it, hormones, how boys/girls are raised, but I think it is true – women cry more than men, women are more emotional than men. I also think that when you scratch the surface of a tough-ass woman you’ll find a woman that cries more than most men. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. In fact, I wouldn’t trust a woman that didn’t get a little “verklempt” every now and then.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
I think you are stalling because…you are…intimidated. [/quote]
Intimidated? rainjack, your logic terrifies me.
Your wife does all this when she’s happy? Wow.
Just kidding…I think you’d moved on from the happy crying. Still, crying when happy…I don’t do that. I’ll cry over movies rarely. I saw “Life As A House” recently, and have to admit I was gushing tears by the end of it. No PMS involved.
Other than that, I do cry during arguments with my husband, but again, only rarely. Speaking only for myself, I hate it. It mortifies me to show that kind of weakness when I’m angry. I don’t know why it happens, some combination of frustration over whatever point I’m trying to (concisely, with clear logic) make, that he’s not getting (because he’s gone all irrational on me), and sadness because I don’t do well when we’re at odds. It really crushes me to have him upset with me. (Although nevertheless, I initiate most disputes.) Definitely not an attempt to manipulate. It does soften him, but that sometimes makes me feel manipulated. Like…he’s being gracious because my position has been so compromised by my loss of control. I’d frankly rather fight my fight and win it fairly.
Haha. I’ll bet! Though if my husband said it to me I’m pretty sure I’d laugh.
Maybe I should try it with him: “Keep it up and I’ll give you something to really glower at me about!”
Lifticus, in answer to your questions, I would say that very little of it is hormones. Mostly socialization, I would think.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Maybe I should try it with him: “Keep it up and I’ll give you something to really glower at me about!”
Lifticus, in answer to your questions, I would say that very little of it is hormones. Mostly socialization, I would think. [/quote]
Ha! Here’s to testy, strong women…
I think this is the same situation my wife finds herself in. She would definitely prefer not to cry and be “judged” and win “fairly” – though, there is nothing fair about marriage as I am learning. I always cave in to the tears. I am weak.
She doesn’t cry often but when she does…man…I can’t take it. She’s an inked-up punk-rocker with “Attitude”…what gives? She used to just kick my ass and break stuff – at least I could defend myself against that.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
She’s an inked-up punk-rocker with “Attitude”…what gives? She used to just kick my ass and break stuff – at least I could defend myself against that.
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Maybe she’s pregnant.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
EmilyQ wrote:
Maybe I should try it with him: “Keep it up and I’ll give you something to really glower at me about!”
Lifticus, in answer to your questions, I would say that very little of it is hormones. Mostly socialization, I would think.
Ha! Here’s to testy, strong women…
I think this is the same situation my wife finds herself in. She would definitely prefer not to cry and be “judged” and win “fairly” – though, there is nothing fair about marriage as I am learning. I always cave in to the tears. I am weak.
She doesn’t cry often but when she does…man…I can’t take it. She’s an inked-up punk-rocker with “Attitude”…what gives? She used to just kick my ass and break stuff – at least I could defend myself against that.
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Look on the bright side…when she’s fighting with you, her goal is to win fairly by showing you that you’re wrong and making you feel stupid about it. This way you can feel superior as you lose, while she feels stupid as she wins. So it’s all even. Sort of. (Welcome to marital justice!)
Really, I sympathize. It has to be unsettling.
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
Maybe she’s pregnant.
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She informed me before we got married she wants to save her womb for Glenn Danzig’s seed. She’s of the opinion that his child requires an uncorrupted “Sanctuary”. She’s so friggin’ awesome.