I Understand Women Now

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Hey, girls, just thought you should know something. I just went throught a nightmare that made me understand (I think) what it feels like to be a woman. I’m 51, got put on HRT and the doc didn’t pay attention to my Estrogen (E2) levels, and they skyrocketed to ten times normal. My wife has bad PMS, and we both cuddled in bed, watching Lifetime and ABC family, while eating chocolate, drinking wine and crying a lot. And we took turns bemoaning how bad we felt and how overwhelming life is. And we fought a lot, getting mad at anything and everything.

As a doc, I treated women for PMS, PMDD (pre-menstrual dysphoric disorder), or whatever you want to call that horrible monthly endocrine imbalance. I listened to general stories about what its like to just be female, from thousands of women and a few trannies. But nothing ever gave me as good an idea as living with this catastrophically high estrogen level for over a month.

You got a man in your life who doesn't believe you when you tell him how bad you feel? Make him go through high E2 for one week-I guarantee he'll bring you flowers instead of making jokes, for the rest of your relationship.                                     Doc
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Since I read Rainjacks post about crying over advertisements or soap operas or whatever it was during PCT I always thought that this would be interesting.

I need to try that.

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[quote]orion wrote:
Since I read Rainjacks post about crying over advertisements or soap operas or whatever it was during PCT I always thought that this would be interesting.

I need to try that.

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HA!! Pretty funny.

But it did get me wondering. If this type of behavior is typical for most women, I’m in trouble. I’m about as sensitive as a hammer, any day of the month.

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[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
orion wrote:
Since I read Rainjacks post about crying over advertisements or soap operas or whatever it was during PCT I always thought that this would be interesting.

I need to try that.

HA!! Pretty funny.

But it did get me wondering. If this type of behavior is typical for most women, I’m in trouble. I’m about as sensitive as a hammer, any day of the month.
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Your welcome to join us.

Luckily, while male hormones are a contender for the replacement of the war on drugs, female hormones are a-ok and should be easy to get.

Let´s E up everybody and discuss our favorite chick flicks.

We need some research first on how to do this, but I think ice cream and “Ya-ya sisters” and “Green Tomatoes” are essential.

Plus, I have not seen “Titanic” yet.

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[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
orion wrote:
Since I read Rainjacks post about crying over advertisements or soap operas or whatever it was during PCT I always thought that this would be interesting.

I need to try that.

HA!! Pretty funny.

But it did get me wondering. If this type of behavior is typical for most women, I’m in trouble. I’m about as sensitive as a hammer, any day of the month.
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Yeah, me too. Does this mean we have low estrogen and should be crying at long distance telephone advertisments or even like Lifetime tv?

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[quote]orion wrote:
Since I read Rainjacks post about crying over advertisements or soap operas or whatever it was during PCT I always thought that this would be interesting.

I need to try that.

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If you want to go through that - be my guest. It sucks.

It’s probably a lot funnier when it is happening to someone else.

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OP, obviously this wasn’t a good experience, but did you gain anything from it? Was it worth it?

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[quote]tedro wrote:
OP, obviously this wasn’t a good experience, but did you gain anything from it? Was it worth it? [/quote]
There’s a lot of discussion about HRT on the over 35 section, mostly supportive of it in concept. But it is an inexact science, and in the hands of bad doctors or uninformed patients, it can be WORSE than no treatment.

Did I gain anything from estrogen poisoning? Yeah, I'm serious in my sympathy for women with hormonal imabalances. I tried to post this in the Muscle Sorority section just for women, but I guess its OK here. I reread my post, realized I made my usual mixed joke/serious reference thing....

I have a bad habit of doing that…it’s nearly nonstop on my thread Am I Crazy. But this was no joking matter-there was one day where I was so overwhelmed and distraught at my impaired brain, out of control feelings, and general bad physical well-being, that I wanted to take a suicidal O.D. THAT is not me. Doc

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I know women need more sympathy from men for what they go through, but I think the other side needs to give US more slack.

I’d like women to get a T injection just once, so they can see what it’s like to be us for a change. The constant distraction, wanting sex 10 times a day. Maybe then I wont get yelled at for every ass I see plastered across a billboard when I’m driving.

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[quote]Dr.PowerClean wrote:
But this was no joking matter-there was one day where I was so overwhelmed and distraught at my impaired brain, out of control feelings, and general bad physical well-being, that I wanted to take a suicidal O.D. THAT is not me. Doc[/quote]

That’s not what being female feels like, in my experience. I rarely feel out of control, and I believe myself to be logic-driven for the most part. I think I’m inclined to be logical or analytical because I’m logical and analytical, not because I’m less estrogen-loaded than other women. In fact, I probably fall on the more feminine end of the scale.

I have noticed that occasionally I’ll start my period the day after I’ve had an argument with my husband. We don’t fight often, so I take this as evidence that I do experience some PMS. However, I don’t feel out of control. Ever. The arguments are always rational (which is to say that there is an irritant), but I think I’m more reactive that one day a month. My husband is, as a rule, more volatile (reactive) than I am.

I like the occasional weepy movie, but I also like Ninja Warrior and the Rocky movies. I don’t see either as being hormone-related.

Drunken weeping? No. Eating chocolate while watching movies? Yes, please.

So while I appreciate the attempt at support, I’m a little bummed that you’re saying, essentially, that you’ve experienced feelings of complete irrationality, and so know what it is to be female. : (

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Dr.PowerClean wrote:
But this was no joking matter-there was one day where I was so overwhelmed and distraught at my impaired brain, out of control feelings, and general bad physical well-being, that I wanted to take a suicidal O.D. THAT is not me. Doc

That’s not what being female feels like, in my experience. I rarely feel out of control, and I believe myself to be logic-driven for the most part. I think I’m inclined to be logical or analytical because I’m logical and analytical, not because I’m less estrogen-loaded than other women. In fact, I probably fall on the more feminine end of the scale.

I have noticed that occasionally I’ll start my period the day after I’ve had an argument with my husband. We don’t fight often, so I take this as evidence that I do experience some PMS. However, I don’t feel out of control. Ever. The arguments are always rational (which is to say that there is an irritant), but I think I’m more reactive that one day a month. My husband is, as a rule, more volatile (reactive) than I am.

I like the occasional weepy movie, but I also like Ninja Warrior and the Rocky movies. I don’t see either as being hormone-related.

Drunken weeping? No. Eating chocolate while watching movies? Yes, please.

So while I appreciate the attempt at support, I’m a little bummed that you’re saying, essentially, that you’ve experienced feelings of complete irrationality, and so know what it is to be female. : (

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Goodness, I got fried. Emily, I’m still on edge, easy there. Only meant to sympathize with those women who DO suffer from female hormone imbalances…which I think is a fairly significant percentage at some point in their life. Did NOT mean to imply this was the essence of being a woman.
Doc

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Emily, are you there? Please, accept my apology. I really should have been more clear in my post, it should have been I Now Understand Women With Severe PMS/PMDD. Emily? Please talk to me. I am not going to be OK tonight unless you accept my apology.
Please, Doc

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Emily, you’re very pretty.
(God I hope she says something nice soon, I’m not enjoying watching the Spurs/Jazz game at all. Even with Ginobili going for 30+). Doc

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any girl that is registered on T-Nation is not a representation of the average female population

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
Yo Momma wrote:

…I’m about as sensitive as a hammer, any day of the month.

I have some hot steel that’s handy. When will the forging, tempering and quenching begin?

(M, this shameless internet flirting is simply reprehensibly divine, isn’t it darling?)[/quote]

You’re making me hotter than Georgia asphalt.

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Hahaha. You guys kill me.

I forgive you, Doc. I know you men just get overwrought sometimes.

Ronda, some of those long distance ads are so touching, though!

And how about the Hallmark card commercials?

Have you NO estrogen??

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
So while I appreciate the attempt at support, I’m a little bummed that you’re saying, essentially, that you’ve experienced feelings of complete irrationality, and so know what it is to be female. : (
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You have obviously never lived with a woman. Complete irrationality is the domain of 98.7% of all females.

Why? All that power, and no clue how to use it.