I Swung a KB 10000x!

Hi all! I followed the crowd, albeit a decade late, and I thought I’d document my experience here.

How It Began
It all started when @simo74 was making fun of me in my log for skipping conditioning, as I’m wont to do. I assume it was just language barrier, he not speaking the appropriate English, because everything I do is awesome. Anyway, I mentioned something about I needed to just pick a goal or challenge because I will otherwise always skip conditioning. Enter @T3hPwnisher: he casually dropped “just do 10,000 swings on top of your normal training.” I guess be careful what you wish for.

How It Went
My training, typically, is very much Mountaindog '90s bodybuilding style. The gauntlet thrown wasn’t to do Dan John’s program as written, it was to drop the swings on top of my normal training; I just started by doing 500 swings on the next day. My gym has a 55lbs. KB, rather than the recommended 53, so I’m 2lbs. better than everyone else on the planet

I had a bit of a false start to begin with. I did 3 days of swings, then traveled, then got super sick, so I missed like a week of the gym. I didn’t think it was in the spirit of the challenge to take weeks off, so I just started over when I got back. Around this time I was starting up Odin Force (a Meadows program) alongside @davemccright (but not listing my weights next to his because he’s a jerk), so it all fit really well. I did 500 swings every workout with the exception of the last two: I had 1500 swings left, and wanted to be done, so I just did 750 each of my last two sessions.

I did 500 swings every training day, and trained 4-5 days a week. At first I just did 25 swings after every set, which was some easy math, but then I started doing the 10 - 15 - 25 - 50 scheme recommended in the article. I preferred that second version, because it kind of scaled up with the sets as I was warming up. Typically the 50-rep set was right after I did my worst set of the lift, so I got to die all at once.

How I Felt
At first, I felt awful. I was not joking when I said I was neglecting conditioning. The first 3-ish workouts I seriously just had to get through them. I improved remarkably quickly, though; both at swings and in my condition. By the end of week 2 (so fewer than 10 sessions), it was just another part of the workout - that was incredible improvement.

Swings are “easy;” there was absolutely no learning curve. I got better at them over time, but it was a really natural movement to just fire the stupid KB up over and over. This seems trivial, but this was probably the key. I never really wanted to do these, anyway, so not having to think about how was huge.

I remember at one point I was crazy sore, and I thought it was going to be tough to get the swings in, but once I started moving they just started going. That was pretty critical to finishing the 10k - each day, I just had to start.

Pairing these with leg days was absolutely horrible, especially at first. Meadows always has you do something on leg press or hack squats that leaves you feeling miserable, and then adding a bunch of swings after that truly had me seeing heaven whilst simultaneously questioning its existence a couple times. This never really got a ton better, even as I got into better shape. I think I was able to take shorter breaks as I got better at the swings, so I just kept the misery level up.

My lower back and traps got sore, but didn’t take a crazy beating that debilitated me or anything. There were a couple days I subbed GHRs instead of RDLs, because my lower back was cranky, but that was about it. It was actually my grip that took it the worst. The forearm muscle right on top of my left arm below my elbow started hurting and cramping the first week of these, and never abated. It made the pull days paired with swings shockingly awful - it’s not like biceps takes it out of you, but man that forearm hurt.

How I’m Moving Forward
I took a few lessons away, that I’ll just kind of bullet point.

  • I certainly got bit by the conditioning bug. Doing something hard and fast (I know, I know) was pretty addictive. That’s a keeper.
  • I freaking hate KB swings. They aren’t in my near future.
  • I liked using my rest breaks to do something. I don’t like taking up the whole gym with stupid circuits, but reasonable supersets is definitely there.
  • I’m super-bored/ stale with what I’ve been doing. This throwback to a 4-6-week focus is exactly how I did it when I let Muscle & Fitness be my coach; that’s a keeper.
  • I can out-eat anything! I didn’t lose any weight, because I ate whatever I wanted (and I wanted a lot).
  • I slept better than I have in years. I’m just now making the connection, as I write this, that this could have been the variable.
  • I liked just having someone else (even if it’s the site’s crazy person) just throw a challenge at me; very playground.
  • These sucked, but you can literally always do another swing - you just have to grind it out. That return to just getting the work in, vs. stressing to beat prior performance, was kind of cool. I also think that’s the value of programs - you just gotta do.
  • I liked not needing a mirror or calculator to gauge if I was doing what I’m supposed to do.
  • I guess the summation of the above is I appreciated the return to simplicity - 90s me may have had it figured out after all.

Thanks to anyone that made it through this diatribe!

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Iron sharpens iron! Although I’m honestly more a blunt force instrument, but together we are even more blunt force! Loved the write-up, and those observations are fantastic. Good to hear the sleep improved, and that there’s a new bug of conditioning there. Believe me: I’ve always got more challenges in store, but you may be able to set yourself up well from here.

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I know you know what a life improvement that is!

Thanks all around, my good sir

Amazing work getting these in on top of Odin Force! Combining Bodybuilding with conditioning work is certainly unorthodox but seems like something that has reinvigorated your training and lit a new fire under you as well as a new way to push yourself! All of those things are incredible and you’ve left me in awe, my brother!

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You are far too kind, my good man

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Happy to be the one making fun and not a jerk like @davemccright :joy::joy:

Great write up mate, sounds like the challenge was good for you overall.

So what is the next conditioning challenge ? Daily murph ? Pretty sure @kleinhound did that.

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I appreciate the write up, too. Recently, I’ve been exploring conditioning with complexes, circuits, loaded carries, etc.

So long as I don’t overdo it, I’ve noticed this, too. Recently, I added a few grams of glycine before bed and am sleeping like an adorable, Midwestern baby

I think it’s the rapid progress that’s so addictive.

I’m living every 44-year old’s dream and training to be a firefighter–with zero interest in actually becoming a firefighter-- using Thib’s Fiready plan. Today was box jumps, broad jumps, and plyometrics.

Just like with conditioning, until recently, I had completely neglected power development. Until now. And it’s especially awesome, because I’m sucking less at it by the week.

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Thanks gents!

@barley1 I’m right there with you on the rapid progress drives the love affair. I am liking the thought of training just a little bit more athletically as well.

@simo74 to that point, I don’t think a written challenge is what’s next on the docket for me. Supersets, sleds, circuits and the like feel like what I’m wanting right now. I think the key is to just have ~15 minutes of lung busters in there every day.

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I think you should start to enjoy the misery of sandbags like @littlesleeper is.

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One of us, one of us!

And you son of a bitch, I only got a 50lb KB (because I’m 'Merican so screw the metric system) so you are actually 5lbs better than me!

I do say the challenge certainly brings improvements, especially to areas we have been lacking in, but after the 10,000 … and maybe even before that, youve probably gotten all the “gains” to be had from it and its just maintaining from there on out.

Having said that I did keep a few of them in my new little warm up circuit, its a nice like explosive hip hinge to loosen things up, but other than that I didnt keep them as any significant part of my training moving on after.

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You guys really love your sandbags. I’ll probably figure that out in another 10 years.

I’m 10% fitter!

Absolutely. I’m starting to think that’s the case with all of it. I know it’s crazy - I discovered periodization! - but there’s definitely a sweet spot of giving something long enough to work and moving on before it’s stale.

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For me, it’s a strange affair. Definitely dysfunctional.

I did the Physical Labor part of Fiready today. It sucked. By the fourth round, it felt like my ribs were going to collapse and the weighted vest made it feel like I couldn’t get enough air. But, a small part of me was disappointed it didn’t suck more.

I look forward to seeing you run the next program. Metcon for Muscle has all the elements you described above–and the leg day is horrible.

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I know it’s the volume queen in me, but I look at that and think “it’s not enough!”

Simultaneously, I’m aware the volume in my current program is way too much for me and I am not handling it well.

I thought so, too. But the newly discovered cardio queen in me was pleasantly surprised by the overwhelming suck of a series of three or four-minute long sets. :laughing:

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